Anonymous
Post 03/18/2025 15:05     Subject: Airplane noise concerns overblown?
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Anonymous wrote:What’s your neighborhood?


We're in Bethesda, a couple of blocks from the DC line.


so are we, right off Mass Ave in Westmoreland Hills and this has never once bothered us. I truly can't comprehend how this is an issue. Do you sleep with every window open and in complete silence. Does your home have a roof?

If this somehow bothers you, why don't you move? You live a block from one of the busiest cities in the world. What do you expect? Quiet skies? That's what Cumberland is for.


I have a roof. My windows are closed. If I could post a recording of the jet currently flying over my house, I would.

I don't expect silence. But what I'd like is approximately the noise level that existed when we moved here. The uptick is noticeable to my out-of-town family who complained that they couldn't sleep, and they've been visiting me here for 25 years without ever commenting on it.

I kinda doubt that you live where you say you live.


I promise you I live right near the park. Invest in a better roof and insulation? You expect the noise to be the same it was TWENTY FIVE years ago?? Are you kidding. Your generation has lost it. DC was a totally different animal pre-9/11. The growth and sprawl has exponentially increase and you live right near the heart of it. I can't believe people think this wouldn't change in 25 years..

DC metro had a population of 3.8M in 1999 and now it's just under 6M. Do you not expect increased flights with a 50% increase in population?

https://www.macrotrends.net/global-metrics/cities/23174/washington-dc/population


Changing roof and insulation is cost prohibitive for most people. Also, people move to SFHs to enjoy private outdoor space. If planes fly constantly you cannot sit outside or play outside in your own yard or a deck. Maybe turning the entire metro area into an airway highway by means of having a super busy airport smack in teh middle of it is not a good idea?


...you still aren't addressing the fact that you chose to live 500 yards from the DC line, right along the Potomac river, a few miles from DCA.

People move to SFHs in the far out suburbs for quiet and tranquility. They live where you live for a bit more space and convenience (which has pros and cons).
Anonymous
Post 03/18/2025 14:51     Subject: Airplane noise concerns overblown?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What’s your neighborhood?


We're in Bethesda, a couple of blocks from the DC line.


so are we, right off Mass Ave in Westmoreland Hills and this has never once bothered us. I truly can't comprehend how this is an issue. Do you sleep with every window open and in complete silence. Does your home have a roof?

If this somehow bothers you, why don't you move? You live a block from one of the busiest cities in the world. What do you expect? Quiet skies? That's what Cumberland is for.


I have a roof. My windows are closed. If I could post a recording of the jet currently flying over my house, I would.

I don't expect silence. But what I'd like is approximately the noise level that existed when we moved here. The uptick is noticeable to my out-of-town family who complained that they couldn't sleep, and they've been visiting me here for 25 years without ever commenting on it.

I kinda doubt that you live where you say you live.


I promise you I live right near the park. Invest in a better roof and insulation? You expect the noise to be the same it was TWENTY FIVE years ago?? Are you kidding. Your generation has lost it. DC was a totally different animal pre-9/11. The growth and sprawl has exponentially increase and you live right near the heart of it. I can't believe people think this wouldn't change in 25 years..

DC metro had a population of 3.8M in 1999 and now it's just under 6M. Do you not expect increased flights with a 50% increase in population?

https://www.macrotrends.net/global-metrics/cities/23174/washington-dc/population


Changing roof and insulation is cost prohibitive for most people. Also, people move to SFHs to enjoy private outdoor space. If planes fly constantly you cannot sit outside or play outside in your own yard or a deck. Maybe turning the entire metro area into an airway highway by means of having a super busy airport smack in teh middle of it is not a good idea?
Anonymous
Post 03/18/2025 14:48     Subject: Airplane noise concerns overblown?
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Anonymous wrote:PP, that’s just ridiculous. Maybe read the last 59 pages for why this is legitimately a concern. It is also the case that there is a proven correlation with gradual hearing loss but that doesn’t lessen the effects of daily pollution exposure


The entire DC area is polluted in this case. We have 2 major airports here. DC flights go all over the place and many of them fly relatively low even far inland over suburban areas miles from the airport. Never understood this.


Not at all. Not to repeat the science, you can read the threads or google it.
Also, the idea that you shouldn’t be able to sleep with an open window in a multimillion $$ house or any house is very warped.


...you can, just not in a major city! Would you complain about not sleeping with a window open in Midtown Manhattan?
Anonymous
Post 03/18/2025 14:47     Subject: Airplane noise concerns overblown?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What’s your neighborhood?


We're in Bethesda, a couple of blocks from the DC line.


so are we, right off Mass Ave in Westmoreland Hills and this has never once bothered us. I truly can't comprehend how this is an issue. Do you sleep with every window open and in complete silence. Does your home have a roof?

If this somehow bothers you, why don't you move? You live a block from one of the busiest cities in the world. What do you expect? Quiet skies? That's what Cumberland is for.


I have a roof. My windows are closed. If I could post a recording of the jet currently flying over my house, I would.

I don't expect silence. But what I'd like is approximately the noise level that existed when we moved here. The uptick is noticeable to my out-of-town family who complained that they couldn't sleep, and they've been visiting me here for 25 years without ever commenting on it.

I kinda doubt that you live where you say you live.


I promise you I live right near the park. Invest in a better roof and insulation? You expect the noise to be the same it was TWENTY FIVE years ago?? Are you kidding. Your generation has lost it. DC was a totally different animal pre-9/11. The growth and sprawl has exponentially increase and you live right near the heart of it. I can't believe people think this wouldn't change in 25 years..

DC metro had a population of 3.8M in 1999 and now it's just under 6M. Do you not expect increased flights with a 50% increase in population?

https://www.macrotrends.net/global-metrics/cities/23174/washington-dc/population
Anonymous
Post 03/18/2025 02:20     Subject: Airplane noise concerns overblown?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:PP, that’s just ridiculous. Maybe read the last 59 pages for why this is legitimately a concern. It is also the case that there is a proven correlation with gradual hearing loss but that doesn’t lessen the effects of daily pollution exposure


The entire DC area is polluted in this case. We have 2 major airports here. DC flights go all over the place and many of them fly relatively low even far inland over suburban areas miles from the airport. Never understood this.


Not at all. Not to repeat the science, you can read the threads or google it.
Also, the idea that you shouldn’t be able to sleep with an open window in a multimillion $$ house or any house is very warped.
Anonymous
Post 03/17/2025 23:11     Subject: Airplane noise concerns overblown?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What’s your neighborhood?


We're in Bethesda, a couple of blocks from the DC line.


so are we, right off Mass Ave in Westmoreland Hills and this has never once bothered us. I truly can't comprehend how this is an issue. Do you sleep with every window open and in complete silence. Does your home have a roof?

If this somehow bothers you, why don't you move? You live a block from one of the busiest cities in the world. What do you expect? Quiet skies? That's what Cumberland is for.


I have a roof. My windows are closed. If I could post a recording of the jet currently flying over my house, I would.

I don't expect silence. But what I'd like is approximately the noise level that existed when we moved here. The uptick is noticeable to my out-of-town family who complained that they couldn't sleep, and they've been visiting me here for 25 years without ever commenting on it.

I kinda doubt that you live where you say you live.
Anonymous
Post 03/17/2025 14:29     Subject: Airplane noise concerns overblown?
Anonymous wrote:PP, that’s just ridiculous. Maybe read the last 59 pages for why this is legitimately a concern. It is also the case that there is a proven correlation with gradual hearing loss but that doesn’t lessen the effects of daily pollution exposure


The entire DC area is polluted in this case. We have 2 major airports here. DC flights go all over the place and many of them fly relatively low even far inland over suburban areas miles from the airport. Never understood this.
Anonymous
Post 03/17/2025 14:22     Subject: Airplane noise concerns overblown?
PP, that’s just ridiculous. Maybe read the last 59 pages for why this is legitimately a concern. It is also the case that there is a proven correlation with gradual hearing loss but that doesn’t lessen the effects of daily pollution exposure
Anonymous
Post 03/17/2025 11:59     Subject: Airplane noise concerns overblown?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What’s your neighborhood?


We're in Bethesda, a couple of blocks from the DC line.


so are we, right off Mass Ave in Westmoreland Hills and this has never once bothered us. I truly can't comprehend how this is an issue. Do you sleep with every window open and in complete silence. Does your home have a roof?

If this somehow bothers you, why don't you move? You live a block from one of the busiest cities in the world. What do you expect? Quiet skies? That's what Cumberland is for.
Anonymous
Post 03/17/2025 11:04     Subject: Airplane noise concerns overblown?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What’s your neighborhood?


We're in Bethesda, a couple of blocks from the DC line.


I didn’t know it was that bad there! Is it Westmoreland area? Ward Circle or by the River?
Anonymous
Post 03/17/2025 09:36     Subject: Airplane noise concerns overblown?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What’s your neighborhood?


We're in Bethesda, a couple of blocks from the DC line.


Your delegation on the Community Working Group asked the FAA to shift the flight path towards you in 2021. The FAA opened a comment period for Montgomery County residents to provide feedback on that change but the Working Group never communicated that information to anyone.
Anonymous
Post 03/17/2025 00:28     Subject: Airplane noise concerns overblown?
Anonymous wrote:What’s your neighborhood?


We're in Bethesda, a couple of blocks from the DC line.
Anonymous
Post 03/17/2025 00:24     Subject: Airplane noise concerns overblown?
What’s your neighborhood?
Anonymous
Post 03/16/2025 23:45     Subject: Re:Airplane noise concerns overblown?
I don't think there's any winning about the DCA flight patterns. Whatever they do, someone has to listen to this (as I am at 11:44 pm at night). The working group should advocate for moving as many flights as possible to Dulles and BWI.

I never thought I'd want to sell our house and move. But as soon as our last kid graduates high school in a couple of years, I think that's where I am. Such a shame. I love our neighborhood and DC.
Anonymous
Post 03/15/2025 13:34     Subject: Re:Airplane noise concerns overblown?
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Anonymous wrote:Just moved to north Del Ray and they really bother me. We’re getting acoustical windows installed.


Really? How close are you to richmond hwy (how many blocks)?


Three blocks from Richmond Highway. Our current windows are very bad, though, which doesn’t help.