Anonymous
01/29/2023 20:01
Subject: The Twitter Files
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So where we're at now...
Taibbi repeatedly keeps pushing this narrative that Twitter was run by a bunch of woke liberal ideologues hellbent on muzzling conservatives. And that they worked hand in hand with the FBI and other groups to make that happen.
Yet we saw zero of the emails (and I am sure there are many) detailing legitimate FBI counterterrorism concerns from Taibbi.
Yet we saw zero of the emails (and I am sure there are many) detailing legitimate concerns about actual, genuien foreign election meddling and foreign influence operations, like the Internet Research Agency.
Yet we see from messages from Yael Roth and others that they were more like amoral corporate characters than some kind of ideological crusader hell bent against the right.
Taibbi's releases are extremely misleading and deceptive for not including any of that. It cannot be denied that Taibbi and Musk are selling a very deceptive and dishonest narrative.
One can only speculate why. At best, Musk is using this nonsense to deflect away from the complete dumpster fire that twitter has become since he's taken over. And he's definitely trying to play himself as some kind of hero for free speech and transparency (while failing miserably at it.)
But meanwhile, he is playing right into the hands of people who use his platform to manipulate twitter's audience. Complete đź’© show.
Dumb post. Taibbi’s points have zero to do with wokeness.
Uh, Elon Musk himself has insinuated it. So you've missed the mark.
Now try explaining coherently why Taibbi isn't addressing any of the other items raised above.
You don’t even know what “the mark” is. Again: The twitter files have nothing to do with “woke.”
Blah blah blah. Muffle your dumb jets with your stupid complaints.
Again, try explaining coherently why Taibbi isn't addressing any of the other critical items raised above. Why he isn't providing important context for the story? Why he is deliberately omitting 90% of the story.
Dumb spin. Read the Hamilton 68 twitter files. None of this is easy reading, I’ll grant you that. Just try hard.
Anonymous
01/29/2023 19:59
Subject: The Twitter Files
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So where we're at now...
Taibbi repeatedly keeps pushing this narrative that Twitter was run by a bunch of woke liberal ideologues hellbent on muzzling conservatives. And that they worked hand in hand with the FBI and other groups to make that happen.
Yet we saw zero of the emails (and I am sure there are many) detailing legitimate FBI counterterrorism concerns from Taibbi.
Yet we saw zero of the emails (and I am sure there are many) detailing legitimate concerns about actual, genuien foreign election meddling and foreign influence operations, like the Internet Research Agency.
Yet we see from messages from Yael Roth and others that they were more like amoral corporate characters than some kind of ideological crusader hell bent against the right.
Taibbi's releases are extremely misleading and deceptive for not including any of that. It cannot be denied that Taibbi and Musk are selling a very deceptive and dishonest narrative.
One can only speculate why. At best, Musk is using this nonsense to deflect away from the complete dumpster fire that twitter has become since he's taken over. And he's definitely trying to play himself as some kind of hero for free speech and transparency (while failing miserably at it.)
But meanwhile, he is playing right into the hands of people who use his platform to manipulate twitter's audience. Complete đź’© show.
Dumb post. Taibbi’s points have zero to do with wokeness.
Uh, Elon Musk himself has insinuated it. So you've missed the mark.
Now try explaining coherently why Taibbi isn't addressing any of the other items raised above.
You don’t even know what “the mark” is. Again: The twitter files have nothing to do with “woke.”
Really? Because conservative media is pretty sure the twitter files are about wokeness.
Who cares what “conservative media” says. That’s their stupid take. Try reading the actual twitter files. If nothing else, understand that Lee Fang (The Intercept) agrees with the significance of the most recent twitter files.
Anonymous
Anonymous
01/29/2023 19:45
Subject: The Twitter Files
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So where we're at now...
Taibbi repeatedly keeps pushing this narrative that Twitter was run by a bunch of woke liberal ideologues hellbent on muzzling conservatives. And that they worked hand in hand with the FBI and other groups to make that happen.
Yet we saw zero of the emails (and I am sure there are many) detailing legitimate FBI counterterrorism concerns from Taibbi.
Yet we saw zero of the emails (and I am sure there are many) detailing legitimate concerns about actual, genuien foreign election meddling and foreign influence operations, like the Internet Research Agency.
Yet we see from messages from Yael Roth and others that they were more like amoral corporate characters than some kind of ideological crusader hell bent against the right.
Taibbi's releases are extremely misleading and deceptive for not including any of that. It cannot be denied that Taibbi and Musk are selling a very deceptive and dishonest narrative.
One can only speculate why. At best, Musk is using this nonsense to deflect away from the complete dumpster fire that twitter has become since he's taken over. And he's definitely trying to play himself as some kind of hero for free speech and transparency (while failing miserably at it.)
But meanwhile, he is playing right into the hands of people who use his platform to manipulate twitter's audience. Complete đź’© show.
Dumb post. Taibbi’s points have zero to do with wokeness.
Uh, Elon Musk himself has insinuated it. So you've missed the mark.
Now try explaining coherently why Taibbi isn't addressing any of the other items raised above.
You don’t even know what “the mark” is. Again: The twitter files have nothing to do with “woke.”
Really? Because conservative media is pretty sure the twitter files are about wokeness.
Anonymous
01/29/2023 19:29
Subject: The Twitter Files
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So where we're at now...
Taibbi repeatedly keeps pushing this narrative that Twitter was run by a bunch of woke liberal ideologues hellbent on muzzling conservatives. And that they worked hand in hand with the FBI and other groups to make that happen.
Yet we saw zero of the emails (and I am sure there are many) detailing legitimate FBI counterterrorism concerns from Taibbi.
Yet we saw zero of the emails (and I am sure there are many) detailing legitimate concerns about actual, genuien foreign election meddling and foreign influence operations, like the Internet Research Agency.
Yet we see from messages from Yael Roth and others that they were more like amoral corporate characters than some kind of ideological crusader hell bent against the right.
Taibbi's releases are extremely misleading and deceptive for not including any of that. It cannot be denied that Taibbi and Musk are selling a very deceptive and dishonest narrative.
One can only speculate why. At best, Musk is using this nonsense to deflect away from the complete dumpster fire that twitter has become since he's taken over. And he's definitely trying to play himself as some kind of hero for free speech and transparency (while failing miserably at it.)
But meanwhile, he is playing right into the hands of people who use his platform to manipulate twitter's audience. Complete đź’© show.
Dumb post. Taibbi’s points have zero to do with wokeness.
Uh, Elon Musk himself has insinuated it. So you've missed the mark.
Now try explaining coherently why Taibbi isn't addressing any of the other items raised above.
You don’t even know what “the mark” is. Again: The twitter files have nothing to do with “woke.”
Blah blah blah. Muffle your dumb jets with your stupid complaints.
Again, try explaining coherently why Taibbi isn't addressing any of the other critical items raised above. Why he isn't providing important context for the story? Why he is deliberately omitting 90% of the story.
Anonymous
01/29/2023 19:20
Subject: The Twitter Files
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So where we're at now...
Taibbi repeatedly keeps pushing this narrative that Twitter was run by a bunch of woke liberal ideologues hellbent on muzzling conservatives. And that they worked hand in hand with the FBI and other groups to make that happen.
Yet we saw zero of the emails (and I am sure there are many) detailing legitimate FBI counterterrorism concerns from Taibbi.
Yet we saw zero of the emails (and I am sure there are many) detailing legitimate concerns about actual, genuien foreign election meddling and foreign influence operations, like the Internet Research Agency.
Yet we see from messages from Yael Roth and others that they were more like amoral corporate characters than some kind of ideological crusader hell bent against the right.
Taibbi's releases are extremely misleading and deceptive for not including any of that. It cannot be denied that Taibbi and Musk are selling a very deceptive and dishonest narrative.
One can only speculate why. At best, Musk is using this nonsense to deflect away from the complete dumpster fire that twitter has become since he's taken over. And he's definitely trying to play himself as some kind of hero for free speech and transparency (while failing miserably at it.)
But meanwhile, he is playing right into the hands of people who use his platform to manipulate twitter's audience. Complete đź’© show.
Dumb post. Taibbi’s points have zero to do with wokeness.
Uh, Elon Musk himself has insinuated it. So you've missed the mark.
Now try explaining coherently why Taibbi isn't addressing any of the other items raised above.
You don’t even know what “the mark” is. Again: The twitter files have nothing to do with “woke.”
Anonymous
01/29/2023 18:31
Subject: The Twitter Files
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So where we're at now...
Taibbi repeatedly keeps pushing this narrative that Twitter was run by a bunch of woke liberal ideologues hellbent on muzzling conservatives. And that they worked hand in hand with the FBI and other groups to make that happen.
Yet we saw zero of the emails (and I am sure there are many) detailing legitimate FBI counterterrorism concerns from Taibbi.
Yet we saw zero of the emails (and I am sure there are many) detailing legitimate concerns about actual, genuien foreign election meddling and foreign influence operations, like the Internet Research Agency.
Yet we see from messages from Yael Roth and others that they were more like amoral corporate characters than some kind of ideological crusader hell bent against the right.
Taibbi's releases are extremely misleading and deceptive for not including any of that. It cannot be denied that Taibbi and Musk are selling a very deceptive and dishonest narrative.
One can only speculate why. At best, Musk is using this nonsense to deflect away from the complete dumpster fire that twitter has become since he's taken over. And he's definitely trying to play himself as some kind of hero for free speech and transparency (while failing miserably at it.)
But meanwhile, he is playing right into the hands of people who use his platform to manipulate twitter's audience. Complete đź’© show.
Dumb post. Taibbi’s points have zero to do with wokeness.
Uh, Elon Musk himself has insinuated it. So you've missed the mark.
Now try explaining coherently why Taibbi isn't addressing any of the other items raised above.
Anonymous
01/29/2023 16:12
Subject: The Twitter Files
Anonymous wrote:So where we're at now...
Taibbi repeatedly keeps pushing this narrative that Twitter was run by a bunch of woke liberal ideologues hellbent on muzzling conservatives. And that they worked hand in hand with the FBI and other groups to make that happen.
Yet we saw zero of the emails (and I am sure there are many) detailing legitimate FBI counterterrorism concerns from Taibbi.
Yet we saw zero of the emails (and I am sure there are many) detailing legitimate concerns about actual, genuien foreign election meddling and foreign influence operations, like the Internet Research Agency.
Yet we see from messages from Yael Roth and others that they were more like amoral corporate characters than some kind of ideological crusader hell bent against the right.
Taibbi's releases are extremely misleading and deceptive for not including any of that. It cannot be denied that Taibbi and Musk are selling a very deceptive and dishonest narrative.
One can only speculate why. At best, Musk is using this nonsense to deflect away from the complete dumpster fire that twitter has become since he's taken over. And he's definitely trying to play himself as some kind of hero for free speech and transparency (while failing miserably at it.)
But meanwhile, he is playing right into the hands of people who use his platform to manipulate twitter's audience. Complete đź’© show.
Dumb post. Taibbi’s points have zero to do with wokeness.
Anonymous
01/29/2023 11:01
Subject: The Twitter Files
At best, Twitter went from being manipulated by the left to being manipulated by the right. Yet somehow we're now supposed to conclude two wrongs make a right.
What a joke. And Elon still doesn't know what he's doing.
What a joke. And Elon still doesn't know what he's doing.
Anonymous
01/29/2023 10:58
Subject: The Twitter Files
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So where we're at now...
Taibbi repeatedly keeps pushing this narrative that Twitter was run by a bunch of woke liberal ideologues hellbent on muzzling conservatives. And that they worked hand in hand with the FBI and other groups to make that happen.
Yet we saw zero of the emails (and I am sure there are many) detailing legitimate FBI counterterrorism concerns from Taibbi.
Yet we saw zero of the emails (and I am sure there are many) detailing legitimate concerns about actual, genuien foreign election meddling and foreign influence operations, like the Internet Research Agency.
Yet we see from messages from Yael Roth and others that they were more like amoral corporate characters than some kind of ideological crusader hell bent against the right.
Taibbi's releases are extremely misleading and deceptive for not including any of that. It cannot be denied that Taibbi and Musk are selling a very deceptive and dishonest narrative.
One can only speculate why. At best, Musk is using this nonsense to deflect away from the complete dumpster fire that twitter has become since he's taken over. And he's definitely trying to play himself as some kind of hero for free speech and transparency (while failing miserably at it.)
But meanwhile, he is playing right into the hands of people who use his platform to manipulate twitter's audience. Complete đź’© show.
You're partisan. You refuse to acknowledge the basic reality that the Twitter files, at a minimum, showed a great deal of fabrication, distortion, and censorship, both by government agencies and by progressive media. Some of it is certainly borderline unconstitutional and even outright illegal on the part of the government agencies. The Hamilton files were especially revealing because twitter themselves said the Hamilton people were basically making up all the bots allegations. That's twitter's own progressive leadership! Yet the media continued to treat Hamilton as factual truth. T
The collapse of the integrity of the legacy media is one of the great crises of our lifetime. Sentiments like yours remind me of the child with the finger in his ear changing la la la because they can't countenance the truth - that they were lied to extensively, for years, by the sources they believed to be seeking the truth.
Wrong. On many levels. I totally acknowledge that Twitter had a whole host of problems prior to Elon Musk's takeover. That central premise of yours is thus completely wrong. But I disagree with your characterizations and representations relative to "government agencies" and "progressive media" - it is a platform, which has been utilized by a whole range of parties, all for their own self-serving purposes, to include conservative politicians and media as well. Not all of which has been done with integrity. Twitter was and continues to be used to smear, slander, spread hate, conspiracy theories, propaganda, hoaxes and disinformation by a wide range of parties from all across the spectrum and from all across the globe. That is a fact.
What you are missing is that nothing these Twitter files are doing actually addresses, let alone restores integrity for Twitter, because in its extremely narrow and selective releases of these "twitter files" it is painting an extremely skewed and staged narrative, while deliberately omitting a lot of critical salient information and context. And that is fundamentally dishonest. These Twitter Files releases are not at all about integrity, and that is what YOU refuse to acknowledge, like your proverbial child with his fingers in his ears.
Anonymous
01/29/2023 10:07
Subject: The Twitter Files
Anonymous wrote:So where we're at now...
Taibbi repeatedly keeps pushing this narrative that Twitter was run by a bunch of woke liberal ideologues hellbent on muzzling conservatives. And that they worked hand in hand with the FBI and other groups to make that happen.
Yet we saw zero of the emails (and I am sure there are many) detailing legitimate FBI counterterrorism concerns from Taibbi.
Yet we saw zero of the emails (and I am sure there are many) detailing legitimate concerns about actual, genuien foreign election meddling and foreign influence operations, like the Internet Research Agency.
Yet we see from messages from Yael Roth and others that they were more like amoral corporate characters than some kind of ideological crusader hell bent against the right.
Taibbi's releases are extremely misleading and deceptive for not including any of that. It cannot be denied that Taibbi and Musk are selling a very deceptive and dishonest narrative.
One can only speculate why. At best, Musk is using this nonsense to deflect away from the complete dumpster fire that twitter has become since he's taken over. And he's definitely trying to play himself as some kind of hero for free speech and transparency (while failing miserably at it.)
But meanwhile, he is playing right into the hands of people who use his platform to manipulate twitter's audience. Complete đź’© show.
You're partisan. You refuse to acknowledge the basic reality that the Twitter files, at a minimum, showed a great deal of fabrication, distortion, and censorship, both by government agencies and by progressive media. Some of it is certainly borderline unconstitutional and even outright illegal on the part of the government agencies. The Hamilton files were especially revealing because twitter themselves said the Hamilton people were basically making up all the bots allegations. That's twitter's own progressive leadership! Yet the media continued to treat Hamilton as factual truth. T
The collapse of the integrity of the legacy media is one of the great crises of our lifetime. Sentiments like yours remind me of the child with the finger in his ear changing la la la because they can't countenance the truth - that they were lied to extensively, for years, by the sources they believed to be seeking the truth.
Anonymous
01/28/2023 22:26
Subject: The Twitter Files
So where we're at now...
Taibbi repeatedly keeps pushing this narrative that Twitter was run by a bunch of woke liberal ideologues hellbent on muzzling conservatives. And that they worked hand in hand with the FBI and other groups to make that happen.
Yet we saw zero of the emails (and I am sure there are many) detailing legitimate FBI counterterrorism concerns from Taibbi.
Yet we saw zero of the emails (and I am sure there are many) detailing legitimate concerns about actual, genuien foreign election meddling and foreign influence operations, like the Internet Research Agency.
Yet we see from messages from Yael Roth and others that they were more like amoral corporate characters than some kind of ideological crusader hell bent against the right.
Taibbi's releases are extremely misleading and deceptive for not including any of that. It cannot be denied that Taibbi and Musk are selling a very deceptive and dishonest narrative.
One can only speculate why. At best, Musk is using this nonsense to deflect away from the complete dumpster fire that twitter has become since he's taken over. And he's definitely trying to play himself as some kind of hero for free speech and transparency (while failing miserably at it.)
But meanwhile, he is playing right into the hands of people who use his platform to manipulate twitter's audience. Complete đź’© show.
Taibbi repeatedly keeps pushing this narrative that Twitter was run by a bunch of woke liberal ideologues hellbent on muzzling conservatives. And that they worked hand in hand with the FBI and other groups to make that happen.
Yet we saw zero of the emails (and I am sure there are many) detailing legitimate FBI counterterrorism concerns from Taibbi.
Yet we saw zero of the emails (and I am sure there are many) detailing legitimate concerns about actual, genuien foreign election meddling and foreign influence operations, like the Internet Research Agency.
Yet we see from messages from Yael Roth and others that they were more like amoral corporate characters than some kind of ideological crusader hell bent against the right.
Taibbi's releases are extremely misleading and deceptive for not including any of that. It cannot be denied that Taibbi and Musk are selling a very deceptive and dishonest narrative.
One can only speculate why. At best, Musk is using this nonsense to deflect away from the complete dumpster fire that twitter has become since he's taken over. And he's definitely trying to play himself as some kind of hero for free speech and transparency (while failing miserably at it.)
But meanwhile, he is playing right into the hands of people who use his platform to manipulate twitter's audience. Complete đź’© show.
Anonymous
01/28/2023 22:07
Subject: The Twitter Files
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Meanwhile, there are *still* thousands of Russian bots proliferating on Twitter. Including ones pretending to be American conservative "patriots." Why isn't Taibbi addressing that?
And the fact that it's all still going on greatly, GREATLY undermines Taibbi's narrative.
You’re evidence for this is what? Gut instinct?
Oh sure, it's COMPLETE COINCIDENCE that 1500 Twitter accounts will all tweet the exact same thing about Nancy Pelosi, all exactly verbatim, all with the *exact* spelling, grammar, punctuation errors and everything else, all within the span of 15 minutes. TOTAL COINCIDENCE. No bots at all.
So gut instinct it is?
Just gut instinct? Nope. Not. At. All.
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/maxseddon/documents-show-how-russias-troll-army-hit-america
Anonymous
01/28/2023 21:31
Subject: The Twitter Files
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Meanwhile, there are *still* thousands of Russian bots proliferating on Twitter. Including ones pretending to be American conservative "patriots." Why isn't Taibbi addressing that?
And the fact that it's all still going on greatly, GREATLY undermines Taibbi's narrative.
You’re evidence for this is what? Gut instinct?
Oh sure, it's COMPLETE COINCIDENCE that 1500 Twitter accounts will all tweet the exact same thing about Nancy Pelosi, all exactly verbatim, all with the *exact* spelling, grammar, punctuation errors and everything else, all within the span of 15 minutes. TOTAL COINCIDENCE. No bots at all.
So gut instinct it is?
Anonymous