Anonymous
Post 04/05/2022 20:01     Subject: Sidwell College Admissions This Year
It’s not just “woke” polices, as you so intelligently describe them. Don’t worry, there are plenty of wealthy or connected dumb rich white kids still getting in.
Anonymous
Post 04/05/2022 19:53     Subject: Sidwell College Admissions This Year
Anonymous wrote:Why doesn’t sidwell send more kids to Oxbridge or grand ecoles if woke policies are freezing them out of American schools?



UK schools require rather different things of applicants (extreme academic specialization -- relative to the US) and pay virtually no attention to sports/ECs. Dcs preparing for US admissions would find themselves in a rather different world.
Anonymous
Post 04/05/2022 19:32     Subject: Re:Sidwell College Admissions This Year
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Anonymous wrote:I am not a Sidwell parent. My kids go to a different private school. We were less than impressed by our college counseling as well. In hindsight I realize what someone else already mentioned. The school college counselors don’t really care about your individual kid. They are trying to get the best results for the school. What they want sometimes works in your favor and sometimes against it. Advice for future parents - Do your own research. Hire a private counselor who is your kid’s advocate. Listen to your school counselor but keep in mind that sometimes you need to ignore their advice. No one cares about your kids applications as much as you and your kid.


Private counselors are not calling colleges on your kids behalf. As such, what do you mean by the bolded?


I agree that private counselors are not calling colleges on your behalf. I mean they will help you make a list that is 100% focused on what is best for your child. They won’t discourage your kid from applying to a particular school because it is the first choice of a VIP’s kid.


Is this what happens at Sidwell? CCOs discourage very qualified students from applying to particular schools to avoid interfering with VIP's kids? This is shameful...


It is if they don’t inform me that My DC should not, for example, apply ED to Brown when they are advocating for a VIP kid to be admitted.
This doesn't happen at Sidwell. Nobody is stopped from applying to any school.


Ah, but since parents or students do not see the profile CCO sends to colleges, do we know who (as in VIP or big donor kids) they actually steer toward top colleges? Sunlight, Sidwell, sunlight!


Please explain to me how it is any of your business what school(s) the CCO steers other people's kids to?
Anonymous
Post 04/05/2022 18:00     Subject: Re:Sidwell College Admissions This Year
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:I am not a Sidwell parent. My kids go to a different private school. We were less than impressed by our college counseling as well. In hindsight I realize what someone else already mentioned. The school college counselors don’t really care about your individual kid. They are trying to get the best results for the school. What they want sometimes works in your favor and sometimes against it. Advice for future parents - Do your own research. Hire a private counselor who is your kid’s advocate. Listen to your school counselor but keep in mind that sometimes you need to ignore their advice. No one cares about your kids applications as much as you and your kid.


Private counselors are not calling colleges on your kids behalf. As such, what do you mean by the bolded?


I agree that private counselors are not calling colleges on your behalf. I mean they will help you make a list that is 100% focused on what is best for your child. They won’t discourage your kid from applying to a particular school because it is the first choice of a VIP’s kid.


Is this what happens at Sidwell? CCOs discourage very qualified students from applying to particular schools to avoid interfering with VIP's kids? This is shameful...


This doesn't happen at Sidwell. Nobody is stopped from applying to any school.


Ah, but since parents or students do not see the profile CCO sends to colleges, do we know who (as in VIP or big donor kids) they actually steer toward top colleges? Sunlight, Sidwell, sunlight!


Please explain to me how it is any of your business what school(s) the CCO steers other people's kids to?
Anonymous
Post 04/05/2022 17:49     Subject: Re:Sidwell College Admissions This Year
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am not a Sidwell parent. My kids go to a different private school. We were less than impressed by our college counseling as well. In hindsight I realize what someone else already mentioned. The school college counselors don’t really care about your individual kid. They are trying to get the best results for the school. What they want sometimes works in your favor and sometimes against it. Advice for future parents - Do your own research. Hire a private counselor who is your kid’s advocate. Listen to your school counselor but keep in mind that sometimes you need to ignore their advice. No one cares about your kids applications as much as you and your kid.


Private counselors are not calling colleges on your kids behalf. As such, what do you mean by the bolded?


I agree that private counselors are not calling colleges on your behalf. I mean they will help you make a list that is 100% focused on what is best for your child. They won’t discourage your kid from applying to a particular school because it is the first choice of a VIP’s kid.


Is this what happens at Sidwell? CCOs discourage very qualified students from applying to particular schools to avoid interfering with VIP's kids? This is shameful...


This doesn't happen at Sidwell. Nobody is stopped from applying to any school.


Ah, but since parents or students do not see the profile CCO sends to colleges, do we know who (as in VIP or big donor kids) they actually steer toward top colleges? Sunlight, Sidwell, sunlight!
Anonymous
Post 04/05/2022 17:35     Subject: Re:Sidwell College Admissions This Year
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am not a Sidwell parent. My kids go to a different private school. We were less than impressed by our college counseling as well. In hindsight I realize what someone else already mentioned. The school college counselors don’t really care about your individual kid. They are trying to get the best results for the school. What they want sometimes works in your favor and sometimes against it. Advice for future parents - Do your own research. Hire a private counselor who is your kid’s advocate. Listen to your school counselor but keep in mind that sometimes you need to ignore their advice. No one cares about your kids applications as much as you and your kid.


Private counselors are not calling colleges on your kids behalf. As such, what do you mean by the bolded?


I agree that private counselors are not calling colleges on your behalf. I mean they will help you make a list that is 100% focused on what is best for your child. They won’t discourage your kid from applying to a particular school because it is the first choice of a VIP’s kid.


Sidwell CCO's don't dissuade a student from applying anywhere. If you look at the top of the thread, there were a lot of complaints that "they allowed" 15 seniors to apply to Brown ED. So which is it, they should be dissuading kids or they shouldn't be?

See? Its a no-win.


When someone gave the MIT hypothetical a few pages ago, the response was that the CCO would need to tell the girl that she had virtually no chance at MIT and look at other schools that might be consistent with her interests. And the response by many was "they do this." That would be dissuading (which they should do when appropriate), not prohibiting (which they should not do). Unfortunately the fact is that they did not dissuade any of the seniors who applied ED to Brown. There are some of those 15 who now wish they had been dissuaded and had applied ED somewhere they might have had a better shot.
Anonymous
Post 04/05/2022 17:28     Subject: Sidwell College Admissions This Year
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why doesn’t sidwell send more kids to Oxbridge or grand ecoles if woke policies are freezing them out of American schools?



most SFS kids are fine with what you are calling woke policies even if it limits their own acceptances and options; and SFS sends plenty of kids to a wide variety of foreign schools


Ha. Speak for yourself.


I did. I also said "most"

Anonymous
Post 04/05/2022 17:26     Subject: Re:Sidwell College Admissions This Year
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am not a Sidwell parent. My kids go to a different private school. We were less than impressed by our college counseling as well. In hindsight I realize what someone else already mentioned. The school college counselors don’t really care about your individual kid. They are trying to get the best results for the school. What they want sometimes works in your favor and sometimes against it. Advice for future parents - Do your own research. Hire a private counselor who is your kid’s advocate. Listen to your school counselor but keep in mind that sometimes you need to ignore their advice. No one cares about your kids applications as much as you and your kid.


Private counselors are not calling colleges on your kids behalf. As such, what do you mean by the bolded?


I agree that private counselors are not calling colleges on your behalf. I mean they will help you make a list that is 100% focused on what is best for your child. They won’t discourage your kid from applying to a particular school because it is the first choice of a VIP’s kid.


Is this what happens at Sidwell? CCOs discourage very qualified students from applying to particular schools to avoid interfering with VIP's kids? This is shameful...


No, that isn't what happens, but then the CCO gets flamed for allowing so many kids to apply to one or another school.
Anonymous
Post 04/05/2022 17:25     Subject: Sidwell College Admissions This Year
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why doesn’t sidwell send more kids to Oxbridge or grand ecoles if woke policies are freezing them out of American schools?



most SFS kids are fine with what you are calling woke policies even if it limits their own acceptances and options; and SFS sends plenty of kids to a wide variety of foreign schools


Ha. Speak for yourself.
Anonymous
Post 04/05/2022 17:25     Subject: Re:Sidwell College Admissions This Year
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am not a Sidwell parent. My kids go to a different private school. We were less than impressed by our college counseling as well. In hindsight I realize what someone else already mentioned. The school college counselors don’t really care about your individual kid. They are trying to get the best results for the school. What they want sometimes works in your favor and sometimes against it. Advice for future parents - Do your own research. Hire a private counselor who is your kid’s advocate. Listen to your school counselor but keep in mind that sometimes you need to ignore their advice. No one cares about your kids applications as much as you and your kid.


Private counselors are not calling colleges on your kids behalf. As such, what do you mean by the bolded?


I agree that private counselors are not calling colleges on your behalf. I mean they will help you make a list that is 100% focused on what is best for your child. They won’t discourage your kid from applying to a particular school because it is the first choice of a VIP’s kid.


Sidwell CCO's don't dissuade a student from applying anywhere. If you look at the top of the thread, there were a lot of complaints that "they allowed" 15 seniors to apply to Brown ED. So which is it, they should be dissuading kids or they shouldn't be?

See? Its a no-win.
Anonymous
Post 04/05/2022 17:23     Subject: Re:Sidwell College Admissions This Year
Let’s get this discussion to 100 pages, even if we veer off topic!
Anonymous
Post 04/05/2022 17:14     Subject: Re:Sidwell College Admissions This Year
Are the recent problems perhaps the result of a backlash against the winner-take-all economy that has been very very kind to many SFS parents? Maybe this isn’t a great time to be a family that reeks of wealth and privilege, perhaps after an admissions officer Google stalks the parents, which takes all of five minutes. It must hurt that the “front door” that Rick Singer spoke of is still open; just all the side doors are slamming shut. Except not legit elite athletes and URM.

Everyone says that graduates today are more accomplished, but perhaps SFS grads of the 70’s/80’s/90’s/00’s were less plutocratic in a good way, from an admissions officer standpoint. Are kids on heavy financial aid getting more acceptances?
Anonymous
Post 04/05/2022 16:14     Subject: Re:Sidwell College Admissions This Year
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am not a Sidwell parent. My kids go to a different private school. We were less than impressed by our college counseling as well. In hindsight I realize what someone else already mentioned. The school college counselors don’t really care about your individual kid. They are trying to get the best results for the school. What they want sometimes works in your favor and sometimes against it. Advice for future parents - Do your own research. Hire a private counselor who is your kid’s advocate. Listen to your school counselor but keep in mind that sometimes you need to ignore their advice. No one cares about your kids applications as much as you and your kid.


Private counselors are not calling colleges on your kids behalf. As such, what do you mean by the bolded?


I agree that private counselors are not calling colleges on your behalf. I mean they will help you make a list that is 100% focused on what is best for your child. They won’t discourage your kid from applying to a particular school because it is the first choice of a VIP’s kid.


Is this what happens at Sidwell? CCOs discourage very qualified students from applying to particular schools to avoid interfering with VIP's kids? This is shameful...


This doesn't happen at Sidwell. Nobody is stopped from applying to any school.
Anonymous
Post 04/05/2022 16:11     Subject: Re:Sidwell College Admissions This Year
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am not a Sidwell parent. My kids go to a different private school. We were less than impressed by our college counseling as well. In hindsight I realize what someone else already mentioned. The school college counselors don’t really care about your individual kid. They are trying to get the best results for the school. What they want sometimes works in your favor and sometimes against it. Advice for future parents - Do your own research. Hire a private counselor who is your kid’s advocate. Listen to your school counselor but keep in mind that sometimes you need to ignore their advice. No one cares about your kids applications as much as you and your kid.


Private counselors are not calling colleges on your kids behalf. As such, what do you mean by the bolded?


I agree that private counselors are not calling colleges on your behalf. I mean they will help you make a list that is 100% focused on what is best for your child. They won’t discourage your kid from applying to a particular school because it is the first choice of a VIP’s kid.


Is this what happens at Sidwell? CCOs discourage very qualified students from applying to particular schools to avoid interfering with VIP's kids? This is shameful...


Hopefully this is not true for SFS. If true, very unethical and non-VIP parents will be very angry.
Anonymous
Post 04/05/2022 16:05     Subject: Re:Sidwell College Admissions This Year
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am not a Sidwell parent. My kids go to a different private school. We were less than impressed by our college counseling as well. In hindsight I realize what someone else already mentioned. The school college counselors don’t really care about your individual kid. They are trying to get the best results for the school. What they want sometimes works in your favor and sometimes against it. Advice for future parents - Do your own research. Hire a private counselor who is your kid’s advocate. Listen to your school counselor but keep in mind that sometimes you need to ignore their advice. No one cares about your kids applications as much as you and your kid.


Private counselors are not calling colleges on your kids behalf. As such, what do you mean by the bolded?


I agree that private counselors are not calling colleges on your behalf. I mean they will help you make a list that is 100% focused on what is best for your child. They won’t discourage your kid from applying to a particular school because it is the first choice of a VIP’s kid.


Is this what happens at Sidwell? CCOs discourage very qualified students from applying to particular schools to avoid interfering with VIP's kids? This is shameful...