Anonymous wrote:I read a lot of “boundary changes for thee, but not for me, unless we get moved to a higher rated school.”. So, will the consequence be depopulated lower rated schools, to point where even fewer advanced classes will be offered at them? Feels quite NIMBY-ish to me, and “screw them for being poor.”.
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Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If anyone questions the nearly unified community opposition to the boundary review I strongly suggest that you drive through the neighborhood that is getting moved from McLean to falls church high. Pretty much every house has a yard sign opposing the move.
All that shows is one neighborhood that should have never been zoned to McLean (it’s far away) being unhappy about the prospect of being moved. It doesn’t say the rest of the FCPS community is opposed to changes.
It’s an example of what’s happening across the county at nearly every location with a proposed move. Gatehouse has been getting deluged by angry constituents, and if anyone said otherwise just know they are gaslighting.
That’s not the case. We live in an area with a lot of recommended changes and I haven’t seen a single sign. It doesn’t mean the county is unopposed to change, but the outrage at TLES is on a different level.
It’s not just Timber Lane not wanting to get moved from McLean to Falls Church.
It’s families at Lemon Road living next door to Marshall not wanting to get moved to McLean.
It’s families at Shrevewood not wanting to see their school turned into a new split feeder to Marshall and McLean.
It’s families at Westgate who live next door to Westgate not wanting to be moved to Franklin Sherman.
It’s Westbriar families wondering why they are being moved from Marshall to Madison, with the Wolf Trap area at Marshall potentially left isolated from the rest of the Marshall attendance area.
There’s a reason why the whole area near the McLean/Marshall boundary is the biggest “hot spot.” The FCPS/Thru proposals affecting those schools were incredibly sloppy and the bigger issue is the lack of attention to the needs of Kilmer MS in the Marshall pyramid and McLean HS.
Thru + Reid 's staff did show incredibly sloppy work as seen in the prior post. Add to it 'forgetting" new Falls Chuch HS capacity and targeting capacity at 105%. Westgate is closer to Mclean than Lemon Road but there was no boundary change in drafts between those 2 sites.
MOCO is similar in scope to FCPS and the way changes in MOCO are happeneing or proposed differs dramatically from FCPS. Regions are geographic and optional/magnet programs will be geographic. https://bethesdamagazine.com/2025/06/25/mcps-leaning-toward-regional-programming-model/ Nothing like the Marshall in Region 5 with Westfield .
MOCO also has a new schools opening, did a spreadsheet on program transfers for HS. FCPS does not provide this and the entire junk from Thru ignored program location https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/DJVQ56678E2B/$file/Attachment%20D%20SY2025%20Student%20Enrollment%20Countywide%20Programs%20250724.pdf
Westgate is 0.8 miles closer to McLean than Lemon Road is, but Lemon Road is 1.0 mile closer to Longfellow than Westgate is. Westgate is also closer to Kilmer than to Longfellow.
All these schools are close to one another, so proximity really isn't a compelling reason to change established boundaries.
Compelling reason is Tysons exists. Lemon Rd boundary has walkers to Marshall and that alone is a compelling reason. Kilmer is a range from Westgate of 2.5 to 3.6 miles and Longfellow is about 2.7. Longfellow has greater capacity than Kilmer so it could be the same situation as Carson:KAA. ES is a basic 7 years, HS 4, and MS 2. Walk zone eligible is relevant so skip the MS argument for non walkers to either site.
They are addressing Tysons growth by proposing to move the Spring Hill island to Langley. It doesn't have much relevance to which parts of Lemon Road or Westgate feed to Marshall or McLean. And there are kids at Lemon Road who can walk or quickly bike to Longfellow. They neither want nor need to get moved to Kilmer/Marshall, just as those within walking distance of Marshall don't want to get moved to Longfellow/McLean.
Longfellow already is the "same situation" as some hope for Carson relative to KAA, insofar as everyone at Longfellow feeds to McLean.
Why are you arguing? Why would FCPS bus current HS walkers? It makes no sense but at least one Lemon RD poster was fine with that. ..To remove split feeders for Westgate and Lemon RD do you have any other idea? Weirdly Thru listed some errors BUT not those transporting walkers. "Same situation" referred to larger MS program capacity v HS program capacity. Mclean HS = 1926 [inc 12 room modular 2211 and uses 4 trailers] and Longfellow is 1314. Mclean 24-25 membership was 2379.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If anyone questions the nearly unified community opposition to the boundary review I strongly suggest that you drive through the neighborhood that is getting moved from McLean to falls church high. Pretty much every house has a yard sign opposing the move.
All that shows is one neighborhood that should have never been zoned to McLean (it’s far away) being unhappy about the prospect of being moved. It doesn’t say the rest of the FCPS community is opposed to changes.
It’s an example of what’s happening across the county at nearly every location with a proposed move. Gatehouse has been getting deluged by angry constituents, and if anyone said otherwise just know they are gaslighting.
That’s not the case. We live in an area with a lot of recommended changes and I haven’t seen a single sign. It doesn’t mean the county is unopposed to change, but the outrage at TLES is on a different level.
It’s not just Timber Lane not wanting to get moved from McLean to Falls Church.
It’s families at Lemon Road living next door to Marshall not wanting to get moved to McLean.
It’s families at Shrevewood not wanting to see their school turned into a new split feeder to Marshall and McLean.
It’s families at Westgate who live next door to Westgate not wanting to be moved to Franklin Sherman.
It’s Westbriar families wondering why they are being moved from Marshall to Madison, with the Wolf Trap area at Marshall potentially left isolated from the rest of the Marshall attendance area.
There’s a reason why the whole area near the McLean/Marshall boundary is the biggest “hot spot.” The FCPS/Thru proposals affecting those schools were incredibly sloppy and the bigger issue is the lack of attention to the needs of Kilmer MS in the Marshall pyramid and McLean HS.
Thru + Reid 's staff did show incredibly sloppy work as seen in the prior post. Add to it 'forgetting" new Falls Chuch HS capacity and targeting capacity at 105%. Westgate is closer to Mclean than Lemon Road but there was no boundary change in drafts between those 2 sites.
MOCO is similar in scope to FCPS and the way changes in MOCO are happeneing or proposed differs dramatically from FCPS. Regions are geographic and optional/magnet programs will be geographic. https://bethesdamagazine.com/2025/06/25/mcps-leaning-toward-regional-programming-model/ Nothing like the Marshall in Region 5 with Westfield .
MOCO also has a new schools opening, did a spreadsheet on program transfers for HS. FCPS does not provide this and the entire junk from Thru ignored program location https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/DJVQ56678E2B/$file/Attachment%20D%20SY2025%20Student%20Enrollment%20Countywide%20Programs%20250724.pdf
Westgate is 0.8 miles closer to McLean than Lemon Road is, but Lemon Road is 1.0 mile closer to Longfellow than Westgate is. Westgate is also closer to Kilmer than to Longfellow.
All these schools are close to one another, so proximity really isn't a compelling reason to change established boundaries.
Compelling reason is Tysons exists. Lemon Rd boundary has walkers to Marshall and that alone is a compelling reason. Kilmer is a range from Westgate of 2.5 to 3.6 miles and Longfellow is about 2.7. Longfellow has greater capacity than Kilmer so it could be the same situation as Carson:KAA. ES is a basic 7 years, HS 4, and MS 2. Walk zone eligible is relevant so skip the MS argument for non walkers to either site.
They are addressing Tysons growth by proposing to move the Spring Hill island to Langley. It doesn't have much relevance to which parts of Lemon Road or Westgate feed to Marshall or McLean. And there are kids at Lemon Road who can walk or quickly bike to Longfellow. They neither want nor need to get moved to Kilmer/Marshall, just as those within walking distance of Marshall don't want to get moved to Longfellow/McLean.
Longfellow already is the "same situation" as some hope for Carson relative to KAA, insofar as everyone at Longfellow feeds to McLean.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If anyone questions the nearly unified community opposition to the boundary review I strongly suggest that you drive through the neighborhood that is getting moved from McLean to falls church high. Pretty much every house has a yard sign opposing the move.
All that shows is one neighborhood that should have never been zoned to McLean (it’s far away) being unhappy about the prospect of being moved. It doesn’t say the rest of the FCPS community is opposed to changes.
It’s an example of what’s happening across the county at nearly every location with a proposed move. Gatehouse has been getting deluged by angry constituents, and if anyone said otherwise just know they are gaslighting.
That’s not the case. We live in an area with a lot of recommended changes and I haven’t seen a single sign. It doesn’t mean the county is unopposed to change, but the outrage at TLES is on a different level.
It’s not just Timber Lane not wanting to get moved from McLean to Falls Church.
It’s families at Lemon Road living next door to Marshall not wanting to get moved to McLean.
It’s families at Shrevewood not wanting to see their school turned into a new split feeder to Marshall and McLean.
It’s families at Westgate who live next door to Westgate not wanting to be moved to Franklin Sherman.
It’s Westbriar families wondering why they are being moved from Marshall to Madison, with the Wolf Trap area at Marshall potentially left isolated from the rest of the Marshall attendance area.
There’s a reason why the whole area near the McLean/Marshall boundary is the biggest “hot spot.” The FCPS/Thru proposals affecting those schools were incredibly sloppy and the bigger issue is the lack of attention to the needs of Kilmer MS in the Marshall pyramid and McLean HS.
Thru + Reid 's staff did show incredibly sloppy work as seen in the prior post. Add to it 'forgetting" new Falls Chuch HS capacity and targeting capacity at 105%. Westgate is closer to Mclean than Lemon Road but there was no boundary change in drafts between those 2 sites.
MOCO is similar in scope to FCPS and the way changes in MOCO are happeneing or proposed differs dramatically from FCPS. Regions are geographic and optional/magnet programs will be geographic. https://bethesdamagazine.com/2025/06/25/mcps-leaning-toward-regional-programming-model/ Nothing like the Marshall in Region 5 with Westfield .
MOCO also has a new schools opening, did a spreadsheet on program transfers for HS. FCPS does not provide this and the entire junk from Thru ignored program location https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/DJVQ56678E2B/$file/Attachment%20D%20SY2025%20Student%20Enrollment%20Countywide%20Programs%20250724.pdf
Westgate is 0.8 miles closer to McLean than Lemon Road is, but Lemon Road is 1.0 mile closer to Longfellow than Westgate is. Westgate is also closer to Kilmer than to Longfellow.
All these schools are close to one another, so proximity really isn't a compelling reason to change established boundaries.
Compelling reason is Tysons exists. Lemon Rd boundary has walkers to Marshall and that alone is a compelling reason. Kilmer is a range from Westgate of 2.5 to 3.6 miles and Longfellow is about 2.7. Longfellow has greater capacity than Kilmer so it could be the same situation as Carson:KAA. ES is a basic 7 years, HS 4, and MS 2. Walk zone eligible is relevant so skip the MS argument for non walkers to either site.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If anyone questions the nearly unified community opposition to the boundary review I strongly suggest that you drive through the neighborhood that is getting moved from McLean to falls church high. Pretty much every house has a yard sign opposing the move.
All that shows is one neighborhood that should have never been zoned to McLean (it’s far away) being unhappy about the prospect of being moved. It doesn’t say the rest of the FCPS community is opposed to changes.
It’s an example of what’s happening across the county at nearly every location with a proposed move. Gatehouse has been getting deluged by angry constituents, and if anyone said otherwise just know they are gaslighting.
That’s not the case. We live in an area with a lot of recommended changes and I haven’t seen a single sign. It doesn’t mean the county is unopposed to change, but the outrage at TLES is on a different level.
It’s not just Timber Lane not wanting to get moved from McLean to Falls Church.
It’s families at Lemon Road living next door to Marshall not wanting to get moved to McLean.
It’s families at Shrevewood not wanting to see their school turned into a new split feeder to Marshall and McLean.
It’s families at Westgate who live next door to Westgate not wanting to be moved to Franklin Sherman.
It’s Westbriar families wondering why they are being moved from Marshall to Madison, with the Wolf Trap area at Marshall potentially left isolated from the rest of the Marshall attendance area.
There’s a reason why the whole area near the McLean/Marshall boundary is the biggest “hot spot.” The FCPS/Thru proposals affecting those schools were incredibly sloppy and the bigger issue is the lack of attention to the needs of Kilmer MS in the Marshall pyramid and McLean HS.
Thru + Reid 's staff did show incredibly sloppy work as seen in the prior post. Add to it 'forgetting" new Falls Chuch HS capacity and targeting capacity at 105%. Westgate is closer to Mclean than Lemon Road but there was no boundary change in drafts between those 2 sites.
MOCO is similar in scope to FCPS and the way changes in MOCO are happeneing or proposed differs dramatically from FCPS. Regions are geographic and optional/magnet programs will be geographic. https://bethesdamagazine.com/2025/06/25/mcps-leaning-toward-regional-programming-model/ Nothing like the Marshall in Region 5 with Westfield .
MOCO also has a new schools opening, did a spreadsheet on program transfers for HS. FCPS does not provide this and the entire junk from Thru ignored program location https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/DJVQ56678E2B/$file/Attachment%20D%20SY2025%20Student%20Enrollment%20Countywide%20Programs%20250724.pdf
Westgate is 0.8 miles closer to McLean than Lemon Road is, but Lemon Road is 1.0 mile closer to Longfellow than Westgate is. Westgate is also closer to Kilmer than to Longfellow.
All these schools are close to one another, so proximity really isn't a compelling reason to change established boundaries.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If anyone questions the nearly unified community opposition to the boundary review I strongly suggest that you drive through the neighborhood that is getting moved from McLean to falls church high. Pretty much every house has a yard sign opposing the move.
All that shows is one neighborhood that should have never been zoned to McLean (it’s far away) being unhappy about the prospect of being moved. It doesn’t say the rest of the FCPS community is opposed to changes.
It’s an example of what’s happening across the county at nearly every location with a proposed move. Gatehouse has been getting deluged by angry constituents, and if anyone said otherwise just know they are gaslighting.
That’s not the case. We live in an area with a lot of recommended changes and I haven’t seen a single sign. It doesn’t mean the county is unopposed to change, but the outrage at TLES is on a different level.
It’s not just Timber Lane not wanting to get moved from McLean to Falls Church.
It’s families at Lemon Road living next door to Marshall not wanting to get moved to McLean.
It’s families at Shrevewood not wanting to see their school turned into a new split feeder to Marshall and McLean.
It’s families at Westgate who live next door to Westgate not wanting to be moved to Franklin Sherman.
It’s Westbriar families wondering why they are being moved from Marshall to Madison, with the Wolf Trap area at Marshall potentially left isolated from the rest of the Marshall attendance area.
There’s a reason why the whole area near the McLean/Marshall boundary is the biggest “hot spot.” The FCPS/Thru proposals affecting those schools were incredibly sloppy and the bigger issue is the lack of attention to the needs of Kilmer MS in the Marshall pyramid and McLean HS.
Thru + Reid 's staff did show incredibly sloppy work as seen in the prior post. Add to it 'forgetting" new Falls Chuch HS capacity and targeting capacity at 105%. Westgate is closer to Mclean than Lemon Road but there was no boundary change in drafts between those 2 sites.
MOCO is similar in scope to FCPS and the way changes in MOCO are happeneing or proposed differs dramatically from FCPS. Regions are geographic and optional/magnet programs will be geographic. https://bethesdamagazine.com/2025/06/25/mcps-leaning-toward-regional-programming-model/ Nothing like the Marshall in Region 5 with Westfield .
MOCO also has a new schools opening, did a spreadsheet on program transfers for HS. FCPS does not provide this and the entire junk from Thru ignored program location https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/DJVQ56678E2B/$file/Attachment%20D%20SY2025%20Student%20Enrollment%20Countywide%20Programs%20250724.pdf
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If anyone questions the nearly unified community opposition to the boundary review I strongly suggest that you drive through the neighborhood that is getting moved from McLean to falls church high. Pretty much every house has a yard sign opposing the move.
All that shows is one neighborhood that should have never been zoned to McLean (it’s far away) being unhappy about the prospect of being moved. It doesn’t say the rest of the FCPS community is opposed to changes.
It’s an example of what’s happening across the county at nearly every location with a proposed move. Gatehouse has been getting deluged by angry constituents, and if anyone said otherwise just know they are gaslighting.
That’s not the case. We live in an area with a lot of recommended changes and I haven’t seen a single sign. It doesn’t mean the county is unopposed to change, but the outrage at TLES is on a different level.
It’s not just Timber Lane not wanting to get moved from McLean to Falls Church.
It’s families at Lemon Road living next door to Marshall not wanting to get moved to McLean.
It’s families at Shrevewood not wanting to see their school turned into a new split feeder to Marshall and McLean.
It’s families at Westgate who live next door to Westgate not wanting to be moved to Franklin Sherman.
It’s Westbriar families wondering why they are being moved from Marshall to Madison, with the Wolf Trap area at Marshall potentially left isolated from the rest of the Marshall attendance area.
There’s a reason why the whole area near the McLean/Marshall boundary is the biggest “hot spot.” The FCPS/Thru proposals affecting those schools were incredibly sloppy and the bigger issue is the lack of attention to the needs of Kilmer MS in the Marshall pyramid and McLean HS.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If anyone questions the nearly unified community opposition to the boundary review I strongly suggest that you drive through the neighborhood that is getting moved from McLean to falls church high. Pretty much every house has a yard sign opposing the move.
All that shows is one neighborhood that should have never been zoned to McLean (it’s far away) being unhappy about the prospect of being moved. It doesn’t say the rest of the FCPS community is opposed to changes.
It’s an example of what’s happening across the county at nearly every location with a proposed move. Gatehouse has been getting deluged by angry constituents, and if anyone said otherwise just know they are gaslighting.
That’s not the case. We live in an area with a lot of recommended changes and I haven’t seen a single sign. It doesn’t mean the county is unopposed to change, but the outrage at TLES is on a different level.
It’s not just Timber Lane not wanting to get moved from McLean to Falls Church.
It’s families at Lemon Road living next door to Marshall not wanting to get moved to McLean.
It’s families at Shrevewood not wanting to see their school turned into a new split feeder to Marshall and McLean.
It’s families at Westgate who live next door to Westgate not wanting to be moved to Franklin Sherman.
It’s Westbriar families wondering why they are being moved from Marshall to Madison, with the Wolf Trap area at Marshall potentially left isolated from the rest of the Marshall attendance area.
There’s a reason why the whole area near the McLean/Marshall boundary is the biggest “hot spot.” The FCPS/Thru proposals affecting those schools were incredibly sloppy and the bigger issue is the lack of attention to the needs of Kilmer MS in the Marshall pyramid and McLean HS.
People don't want to be moved to worst schools , no one wants to go from McLean to Marshall, Marshall to Falls Church , however the opposite is fine. You would rather be at McLean than Marshall, Marshall rather than Falls Church
Not necessarily.
Lake Braddock is a stronger school than South County.
The Silverbrook neighborhood slated to move from SoCo does NOT want to get rezoned to Lake Braddock. They want to stay in their community, in the school they picked when they bought their house.
Most people want to stay in the school they chose and do NOT want the school board to gerrymander them into a different school.
Yeah because the commute to LB from there is crazy, especially if there’s ongoing construction on Lee Chapel. If it wasn’t so far away, they’d probably be pretty happy about it.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Will the spotlight on FCPS and other NOVA school districts with respect to non-compliance with the handling of DEI lead to a necessary pause in the boundary review?
I don’t see how these are related.
Because the original premise for the boundary study was equity by attempting to even out school performance.
That’s not the criteria in policy 8130. Why do you support inefficient use of resources?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Will the spotlight on FCPS and other NOVA school districts with respect to non-compliance with the handling of DEI lead to a necessary pause in the boundary review?
I don’t see how these are related.
Because the original premise for the boundary study was equity by attempting to even out school performance.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Will the spotlight on FCPS and other NOVA school districts with respect to non-compliance with the handling of DEI lead to a necessary pause in the boundary review?
I don’t see how these are related.