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Anonymous wrote:I don't know. I think they misplayed that people want their kids to have the option to play high school. Also the sub rules were brutal and too brutal for such a young age. Essentially if you are not a starter then you really never play at all. Too expensive for never playing. Seems like this new league will have balance but will only work with all the ex DA teams sign on and do it quickly so there is enough to be a real platform. I wish them luck.

It would be funny if the new league turned out to be competitive with ECNL. ECNL seems to be just settling old scores like the Politburo after the death of Stalin.

The DA wan't competitive with the ECNL, they added 4 more of the top DA clubs to the league. The only truly top teams left are Tophat, FC Dallas, and Solar. As well as a couple slightly above average clubs, FCV, and LA Galaxy. The ECNL just got even stronger, and chances of high caliber clubs leaving them again anytime in the future after this debacle is about nil.

ECNL expert said ECNL is full no more additions so these clubs will forge ahead. Don’t worry about it.

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Anonymous wrote:DA Girls vs ECNL Girls...check out rosters of final 4 NCAA 1 Women's Soccer...75% were from ECNL Clubs

As a former college coach...let me figure out where I should be watching players

All levels of teams/players can beat each other...National League, DA, ECNL and EDP

Lol. Since the seniors and juniors didn't have a GDA to come from. Clown.

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Anonymous wrote:Threads and posts made on baseless rumors normally get the axe.

As should this one.

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Anonymous wrote:DA Girls vs ECNL Girls...check out rosters of final 4 NCAA 1 Women's Soccer...75% were from ECNL Clubs

As a former college coach...let me figure out where I should be watching players

All levels of teams/players can beat each other...National League, DA, ECNL and EDP

Anonymous wrote:Threads and posts made on baseless rumors normally get the axe.

As should this one.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know. I think they misplayed that people want their kids to have the option to play high school. Also the sub rules were brutal and too brutal for such a young age. Essentially if you are not a starter then you really never play at all. Too expensive for never playing. Seems like this new league will have balance but will only work with all the ex DA teams sign on and do it quickly so there is enough to be a real platform. I wish them luck.

It would be funny if the new league turned out to be competitive with ECNL. ECNL seems to be just settling old scores like the Politburo after the death of Stalin.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know. I think they misplayed that people want their kids to have the option to play high school. Also the sub rules were brutal and too brutal for such a young age. Essentially if you are not a starter then you really never play at all. Too expensive for never playing. Seems like this new league will have balance but will only work with all the ex DA teams sign on and do it quickly so there is enough to be a real platform. I wish them luck.

It would be funny if the new league turned out to be competitive with ECNL. ECNL seems to be just settling old scores like the Politburo after the death of Stalin.

The DA wan't competitive with the ECNL, they added 4 more of the top DA clubs to the league. The only truly top teams left are Tophat, FC Dallas, and Solar. As well as a couple slightly above average clubs, FCV, and LA Galaxy. The ECNL just got even stronger, and chances of high caliber clubs leaving them again anytime in the future after this debacle is about nil.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know. I think they misplayed that people want their kids to have the option to play high school. Also the sub rules were brutal and too brutal for such a young age. Essentially if you are not a starter then you really never play at all. Too expensive for never playing. Seems like this new league will have balance but will only work with all the ex DA teams sign on and do it quickly so there is enough to be a real platform. I wish them luck.

It would be funny if the new league turned out to be competitive with ECNL. ECNL seems to be just settling old scores like the Politburo after the death of Stalin.

The DA wan't competitive with the ECNL, they added 4 more of the top DA clubs to the league. The only truly top teams left are Tophat, FC Dallas, and Solar. As well as a couple slightly above average clubs, FCV, and LA Galaxy. The ECNL just got even stronger, and chances of high caliber clubs leaving them again anytime in the future after this debacle is about nil.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know. I think they misplayed that people want their kids to have the option to play high school. Also the sub rules were brutal and too brutal for such a young age. Essentially if you are not a starter then you really never play at all. Too expensive for never playing. Seems like this new league will have balance but will only work with all the ex DA teams sign on and do it quickly so there is enough to be a real platform. I wish them luck.

It would be funny if the new league turned out to be competitive with ECNL. ECNL seems to be just settling old scores like the Politburo after the death of Stalin.

Anonymous wrote:I don't know. I think they misplayed that people want their kids to have the option to play high school. Also the sub rules were brutal and too brutal for such a young age. Essentially if you are not a starter then you really never play at all. Too expensive for never playing. Seems like this new league will have balance but will only work with all the ex DA teams sign on and do it quickly so there is enough to be a real platform. I wish them luck.

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Anonymous wrote:I think that is ultimately the best outcome for strong female soccer talent. Both leagues are/were very flawed but having two was destructive to consolidating competitive soccer players to play with and against one another

Highly likely the split will continue. The reasons GDA was taking on water aren’t there for GAL.

Does not address the main problem which is splitting up the competitive talent and weakening the overall landscape with dilution.

IMO almost all these deluxe top clubs are corrupt money grubbing con artists across ALL leagues.

But consolidating the players is progress .

Regardless...always watch you players back and those of her team mates at all these places

I know - dilution, dilution, dilution - But the exDA are backed into a corner with their livelihoods (money grubbers or not) on the line, so I’d anticipate they’ll be very aggressive to keep what they can and grow where they can. And, the fact of the matter is, there are clubs out there they can add who can compete. Beach FC was mentioned in the ECNL discussion. In CCL play, their 02-08 girls have a combined 4 losses across 7 teams (out of like 70-80 games) and have more than held their own against ECNL teams. Win some, tie some, lose some - but always compete. There is no ECNL close by so they would become the ‘Elite’ option in their area, so they’d probably be willing to bite.

Ecln was always exclusionary by cost and location. Gda was too. That won't change as these are businesses. They know the customers they want and those are affluent suburban girls with plenty of money and a modicome of talent. That is the target customer of both gda and ecnl.

Really motivated talented players would be better off without either of these leagues with their Uber expensive high travel exclusionary structures but that ship has sailed.

At this point, in the areas where the geography overlaps, they are better off if only one of these leagues exists. Could have been gda or ecnl..who cares...the important thing is that one finally won out which should improve things.

I agree with almost everything you said, except your last sentence. 50+ clubs worth of DA players and parents have shown that they are able and willing to pay for ‘elite’. The Demand is still there. ECNL needed (or needs) to take 15-20 clubs in order to end it. Not doing so leaves 50 clubs out there - including some big name clubs. If this ‘GAL’ league goes out and adds 20-25 new clubs nationally - the Beach FC’s that are out there, they’ll be able to put together showcases and draw scouts. They might not be on ECNL’s level but the end result is we’re not in too much of a different place than we were 3 months ago.

Do you remember the first year DA was a thing and they put together the showcases to support the program? I do my kid was in it and I remember that ECNL put there showcase at the same time, ON PURPOSE. We only had water down college recruiters at those games. All others went to ECNL. This will happen again ECNL will make sure of it. Remember they are a business.

Yeah I was there too. Every significant D1 college was at DA.

The college coaches at GDA vs. ECNL events the past 12 months are not even comparable. The GDA had more and more high-level soccer programs by a factor of 3 or more. I was at both.

Not even remotely true.

I have been to both. I am guessing you have only been to ECNL.

Why would you be at both

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Anonymous wrote:I think that is ultimately the best outcome for strong female soccer talent. Both leagues are/were very flawed but having two was destructive to consolidating competitive soccer players to play with and against one another

Highly likely the split will continue. The reasons GDA was taking on water aren’t there for GAL.

Does not address the main problem which is splitting up the competitive talent and weakening the overall landscape with dilution.

IMO almost all these deluxe top clubs are corrupt money grubbing con artists across ALL leagues.

But consolidating the players is progress .

Regardless...always watch you players back and those of her team mates at all these places

I know - dilution, dilution, dilution - But the exDA are backed into a corner with their livelihoods (money grubbers or not) on the line, so I’d anticipate they’ll be very aggressive to keep what they can and grow where they can. And, the fact of the matter is, there are clubs out there they can add who can compete. Beach FC was mentioned in the ECNL discussion. In CCL play, their 02-08 girls have a combined 4 losses across 7 teams (out of like 70-80 games) and have more than held their own against ECNL teams. Win some, tie some, lose some - but always compete. There is no ECNL close by so they would become the ‘Elite’ option in their area, so they’d probably be willing to bite.

Ecln was always exclusionary by cost and location. Gda was too. That won't change as these are businesses. They know the customers they want and those are affluent suburban girls with plenty of money and a modicome of talent. That is the target customer of both gda and ecnl.

Really motivated talented players would be better off without either of these leagues with their Uber expensive high travel exclusionary structures but that ship has sailed.

At this point, in the areas where the geography overlaps, they are better off if only one of these leagues exists. Could have been gda or ecnl..who cares...the important thing is that one finally won out which should improve things.

I agree with almost everything you said, except your last sentence. 50+ clubs worth of DA players and parents have shown that they are able and willing to pay for ‘elite’. The Demand is still there. ECNL needed (or needs) to take 15-20 clubs in order to end it. Not doing so leaves 50 clubs out there - including some big name clubs. If this ‘GAL’ league goes out and adds 20-25 new clubs nationally - the Beach FC’s that are out there, they’ll be able to put together showcases and draw scouts. They might not be on ECNL’s level but the end result is we’re not in too much of a different place than we were 3 months ago.

Do you remember the first year DA was a thing and they put together the showcases to support the program? I do my kid was in it and I remember that ECNL put there showcase at the same time, ON PURPOSE. We only had water down college recruiters at those games. All others went to ECNL. This will happen again ECNL will make sure of it. Remember they are a business.

Yeah I was there too. Every significant D1 college was at DA.

The college coaches at GDA vs. ECNL events the past 12 months are not even comparable. The GDA had more and more high-level soccer programs by a factor of 3 or more. I was at both.

Not even remotely true.

I have been to both. I am guessing you have only been to ECNL.

Why would you be at both

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Anonymous wrote:I think that is ultimately the best outcome for strong female soccer talent. Both leagues are/were very flawed but having two was destructive to consolidating competitive soccer players to play with and against one another

Highly likely the split will continue. The reasons GDA was taking on water aren’t there for GAL.

Does not address the main problem which is splitting up the competitive talent and weakening the overall landscape with dilution.

IMO almost all these deluxe top clubs are corrupt money grubbing con artists across ALL leagues.

But consolidating the players is progress .

Regardless...always watch you players back and those of her team mates at all these places

I know - dilution, dilution, dilution - But the exDA are backed into a corner with their livelihoods (money grubbers or not) on the line, so I’d anticipate they’ll be very aggressive to keep what they can and grow where they can. And, the fact of the matter is, there are clubs out there they can add who can compete. Beach FC was mentioned in the ECNL discussion. In CCL play, their 02-08 girls have a combined 4 losses across 7 teams (out of like 70-80 games) and have more than held their own against ECNL teams. Win some, tie some, lose some - but always compete. There is no ECNL close by so they would become the ‘Elite’ option in their area, so they’d probably be willing to bite.

Ecln was always exclusionary by cost and location. Gda was too. That won't change as these are businesses. They know the customers they want and those are affluent suburban girls with plenty of money and a modicome of talent. That is the target customer of both gda and ecnl.

Really motivated talented players would be better off without either of these leagues with their Uber expensive high travel exclusionary structures but that ship has sailed.

At this point, in the areas where the geography overlaps, they are better off if only one of these leagues exists. Could have been gda or ecnl..who cares...the important thing is that one finally won out which should improve things.

I agree with almost everything you said, except your last sentence. 50+ clubs worth of DA players and parents have shown that they are able and willing to pay for ‘elite’. The Demand is still there. ECNL needed (or needs) to take 15-20 clubs in order to end it. Not doing so leaves 50 clubs out there - including some big name clubs. If this ‘GAL’ league goes out and adds 20-25 new clubs nationally - the Beach FC’s that are out there, they’ll be able to put together showcases and draw scouts. They might not be on ECNL’s level but the end result is we’re not in too much of a different place than we were 3 months ago.

Do you remember the first year DA was a thing and they put together the showcases to support the program? I do my kid was in it and I remember that ECNL put there showcase at the same time, ON PURPOSE. We only had water down college recruiters at those games. All others went to ECNL. This will happen again ECNL will make sure of it. Remember they are a business.

Yeah I was there too. Every significant D1 college was at DA.

The college coaches at GDA vs. ECNL events the past 12 months are not even comparable. The GDA had more and more high-level soccer programs by a factor of 3 or more. I was at both.

Not even remotely true.

I have been to both. I am guessing you have only been to ECNL.