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I thought we were against private jets because, you know, the environment...

Shouldn't JLo have taken a boat or something?

Doesn't she already live in Miami?

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Anonymous wrote:What disappoints me about a current strain of feminism is this conflation between empowerment and marketing tools. Sex is a common and powerful marketing tool, initially exploited by men (bikini women draped over cars) and now also exploited by women. JLo is a total boss. She used sex to promote her show. Very successfully. That's not empowerment, that's capitalism.

What would have been empowerment, IMO, is to NOT use sex to promote the show. JLo says f&ck all you men. I'm not using my body in this way for your attention. I'm amazing without my crotch too.

But then it wouldn't have caused all this discussion and it wouldn't have given her the most media attention possible, which is what any performer wants.

So, it was a good show but very much the same old, same old. Not empowering. Just the same old "women are good for one thing" message.

What she was actually doing is saying... hey conservative women who have been controlled by men your whole life and told how you can dress and what you can do with your body... I can do whatever I want with my body and no man is stopping me.

Hey conservative men, I can actually do whatever I want with my body... think what you want but it's not for you, can't have it, can't control it, can't stop it.

Stop trying to tell women what to do with their bodies and stop blaming them for what others think while they do things with their body. You chose to think the things you think. The majority of the population did not think those things ... it's all on you, it's in your head, you created those thoughts and most people disagree with you.

Except most people think it was wrong to do -- IN THAT SETTING -- IN FRONT OF CHILDREN. I have no respect for any woman who rubs her crotch in front of my young children.

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Anonymous wrote:What disappoints me about a current strain of feminism is this conflation between empowerment and marketing tools. Sex is a common and powerful marketing tool, initially exploited by men (bikini women draped over cars) and now also exploited by women. JLo is a total boss. She used sex to promote her show. Very successfully. That's not empowerment, that's capitalism.

What would have been empowerment, IMO, is to NOT use sex to promote the show. JLo says f&ck all you men. I'm not using my body in this way for your attention. I'm amazing without my crotch too.

But then it wouldn't have caused all this discussion and it wouldn't have given her the most media attention possible, which is what any performer wants.

So, it was a good show but very much the same old, same old. Not empowering. Just the same old "women are good for one thing" message.

What she was actually doing is saying... hey conservative women who have been controlled by men your whole life and told how you can dress and what you can do with your body... I can do whatever I want with my body and no man is stopping me.

Hey conservative men, I can actually do whatever I want with my body... think what you want but it's not for you, can't have it, can't control it, can't stop it.

Stop trying to tell women what to do with their bodies and stop blaming them for what others think while they do things with their body. You chose to think the things you think. The majority of the population did not think those things ... it's all on you, it's in your head, you created those thoughts and most people disagree with you.

Except most people think it was wrong to do -- IN THAT SETTING -- IN FRONT OF CHILDREN. I have no respect for any woman who rubs her crotch in front of my young children.

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Anonymous wrote:What disappoints me about a current strain of feminism is this conflation between empowerment and marketing tools. Sex is a common and powerful marketing tool, initially exploited by men (bikini women draped over cars) and now also exploited by women. JLo is a total boss. She used sex to promote her show. Very successfully. That's not empowerment, that's capitalism.

What would have been empowerment, IMO, is to NOT use sex to promote the show. JLo says f&ck all you men. I'm not using my body in this way for your attention. I'm amazing without my crotch too.

But then it wouldn't have caused all this discussion and it wouldn't have given her the most media attention possible, which is what any performer wants.

So, it was a good show but very much the same old, same old. Not empowering. Just the same old "women are good for one thing" message.

What she was actually doing is saying... hey conservative women who have been controlled by men your whole life and told how you can dress and what you can do with your body... I can do whatever I want with my body and no man is stopping me.

Hey conservative men, I can actually do whatever I want with my body... think what you want but it's not for you, can't have it, can't control it, can't stop it.

Stop trying to tell women what to do with their bodies and stop blaming them for what others think while they do things with their body. You chose to think the things you think. The majority of the population did not think those things ... it's all on you, it's in your head, you created those thoughts and most people disagree with you.

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Anonymous wrote:What disappoints me about a current strain of feminism is this conflation between empowerment and marketing tools. Sex is a common and powerful marketing tool, initially exploited by men (bikini women draped over cars) and now also exploited by women. JLo is a total boss. She used sex to promote her show. Very successfully. That's not empowerment, that's capitalism.

What would have been empowerment, IMO, is to NOT use sex to promote the show. JLo says f&ck all you men. I'm not using my body in this way for your attention. I'm amazing without my crotch too.

But then it wouldn't have caused all this discussion and it wouldn't have given her the most media attention possible, which is what any performer wants.

So, it was a good show but very much the same old, same old. Not empowering. Just the same old "women are good for one thing" message.

What she was actually doing is saying... hey conservative women who have been controlled by men your whole life and told how you can dress and what you can do with your body... I can do whatever I want with my body and no man is stopping me.

Hey conservative men, I can actually do whatever I want with my body... think what you want but it's not for you, can't have it, can't control it, can't stop it.

Stop trying to tell women what to do with their bodies and stop blaming them for what others think while they do things with their body. You chose to think the things you think. The majority of the population did not think those things ... it's all on you, it's in your head, you created those thoughts and most people disagree with you.

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And it’s not even Nebraska. It’s moco.

The thread is so depressing on so many levels. This type of response might be good for a momentary laugh. Unfortunately, Karen from Nebraska (and Ohio and Utah...) doesn't care if you call her a jealous, racist, prude and will proudly be voting for Trump again in the next election. In fact, she might be voting for him in part because she's being dismissed as a jealous, racist prude. And all the anti-immigrant, racist, repressive policies will stay in place and nothing will change. The Republicans keep stoking the culture wars because it works for them and unfortunately this type of response plays right into it.

I actually think it’s a lefty who are mad. Ya know the Karen’s who wear the pink hats protesting against women being objectified, all while holding signs saying “this p***y grabs back!”

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Anonymous wrote:What disappoints me about a current strain of feminism is this conflation between empowerment and marketing tools. Sex is a common and powerful marketing tool, initially exploited by men (bikini women draped over cars) and now also exploited by women. JLo is a total boss. She used sex to promote her show. Very successfully. That's not empowerment, that's capitalism.

What would have been empowerment, IMO, is to NOT use sex to promote the show. JLo says f&ck all you men. I'm not using my body in this way for your attention. I'm amazing without my crotch too.

But then it wouldn't have caused all this discussion and it wouldn't have given her the most media attention possible, which is what any performer wants.

So, it was a good show but very much the same old, same old. Not empowering. Just the same old "women are good for one thing" message.

What she was actually doing is saying... hey conservative women who have been controlled by men your whole life and told how you can dress and what you can do with your body... I can do whatever I want with my body and no man is stopping me.

Hey conservative men, I can actually do whatever I want with my body... think what you want but it's not for you, can't have it, can't control it, can't stop it.

Stop trying to tell women what to do with their bodies and stop blaming them for what others think while they do things with their body. You chose to think the things you think. The majority of the population did not think those things ... it's all on you, it's in your head, you created those thoughts and most people disagree with you.

Anonymous wrote:What disappoints me about a current strain of feminism is this conflation between empowerment and marketing tools. Sex is a common and powerful marketing tool, initially exploited by men (bikini women draped over cars) and now also exploited by women. JLo is a total boss. She used sex to promote her show. Very successfully. That's not empowerment, that's capitalism.

What would have been empowerment, IMO, is to NOT use sex to promote the show. JLo says f&ck all you men. I'm not using my body in this way for your attention. I'm amazing without my crotch too.

But then it wouldn't have caused all this discussion and it wouldn't have given her the most media attention possible, which is what any performer wants.

So, it was a good show but very much the same old, same old. Not empowering. Just the same old "women are good for one thing" message.

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Anonymous wrote:I thought they had an incredibly powerful message that was nearly completely lost in their nakedness. I did not mind the belly dancing but the pole was a whole other level. I wished they had the strength to let the show stand with soooo much skin and sex.

Yes. I almost missed it because I was rolling my eyes at the porno parts. Gyrating JLo doesn't do it for me, sorry.

+2. Scantily clad wasn't shocking at all.

The crotch rubbing and butt grabbing was tacky.

Shakira's tongue thing was hilarious though!

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Anonymous wrote:I thought they had an incredibly powerful message that was nearly completely lost in their nakedness. I did not mind the belly dancing but the pole was a whole other level. I wished they had the strength to let the show stand with soooo much skin and sex.

Yes. I almost missed it because I was rolling my eyes at the porno parts. Gyrating JLo doesn't do it for me, sorry.

Anonymous wrote:I thought they had an incredibly powerful message that was nearly completely lost in their nakedness. I did not mind the belly dancing but the pole was a whole other level. I wished they had the strength to let the show stand with soooo much skin and sex.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone bump the thread from last year after Adam Levine went full topless. I want to compare the outrage

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/782581.page

Not a lot of outrage, one or two people whining. Then a few sexy football photos just for fun.

Only 7 pages? Where is the outrage? He wasn't just in a skimpy outfit, he actually took his clothes off!

Oh, I missed where he started rubbing his crotch!

So if the women had taken their tops off, you would have been ok with that?

Again, I missed the part that he was rubbing his crotch!

Come on Karen, you lost this one. Move on already

LOL, he took his shirt off. Big deal? No. You see men on the beach with their shirts off.

J.Lo was wearing a skimpy outfit. Big deal? No. You see women in skimpy outfits on the beach.

J.Lo rubbed her crotch, her breasts, and simulated sex with a male on stage. Big deal. Yes. Very big deal as this behavior would only be seen in your private bedroom, a strip club, or porn movie,.
It is not behavior appropriate for general audiences.

Ha Ha Ha! Classic Karen