Anonymous
10/15/2017 13:58
Subject: APS middle school boundary process
Moving MM and DH to Kenmore does not help the demographic problem. Middle-class students at schools with over 40% FARMS perform worse. The level without ll still be well over 40% with this move. APS needs to think more creatively about how to get more diversity across the system (including Williamsburg, which if this plan is adopted will serve almost exclusively whites and millionaires). According to the social science, this ineffective band-aid won’t help the low-income kids at Kenmore and will likely hurt the middle-class kids who are pushed into the school.
Anonymous
10/15/2017 13:26
Subject: Re:APS middle school boundary process
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If the SB really cared about the DH and MM close walkers the PU would cross I66 and include them or they would have a small PU. When is the next PU update planned? That will be a good time to fight this battle. For now it looks like sending them to Kenmore helps all of APS.
They care about all of Arlington’s students. That’s why they are making changes.
Hahaha. Yeah. That's why Williamsburg will be at 2-4% farms, while three other schools are 40-55%. Uh huh. Nah, you'll just sacrifice walkers for optics, making their lives worse, while making those North North Arlington property values oh so much better. Sure, they care about us all.
Anonymous
10/15/2017 12:36
Subject: Re:APS middle school boundary process
Anonymous wrote:If the SB really cared about the DH and MM close walkers the PU would cross I66 and include them or they would have a small PU. When is the next PU update planned? That will be a good time to fight this battle. For now it looks like sending them to Kenmore helps all of APS.
They care about all of Arlington’s students. That’s why they are making changes.
Anonymous
10/15/2017 12:29
Subject: Re:APS middle school boundary process
Anonymous wrote:If the SB really cared about the DH and MM close walkers the PU would cross I66 and include them or they would have a small PU. When is the next PU update planned? That will be a good time to fight this battle. For now it looks like sending them to Kenmore helps all of APS.
They just split a few of the large planning units this summer.
Anonymous
10/15/2017 11:55
Subject: Re:APS middle school boundary process
If the SB really cared about the DH and MM close walkers the PU would cross I66 and include them or they would have a small PU. When is the next PU update planned? That will be a good time to fight this battle. For now it looks like sending them to Kenmore helps all of APS.
Anonymous
10/15/2017 11:27
Subject: APS middle school boundary process
Anonymous wrote:Yeah, cuz you're in walking distance to Swanson.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:^^^ the good people of Aurora highlands and Arlington ridge will happily trade mortgages.
+1
... because their property is more valuable than DH and MM? Duh.
Anonymous
10/15/2017 11:21
Subject: APS middle school boundary process
Anonymous wrote:And the most likely solution is targeting less wealthy walkers rather than proposing an alternate solution. So I hope they get nothing.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I would bet the plan is already wired to screw over the Swanson walkers. They just aren't rich enough for the SB to care. That said, I hope that the Swanson walkers win and get to walk to their neighborhood school, and that the S Arlington contingent so intent on screwing those middle class kids, rather than advocating for kids from other neighborhoods already in buses to go to Kenmore, get absolutely nothing.
That is in your head. There is no South Arlington coalition asking that Families currently zoned Swason get screwed. I don’t know how many times people on this thread have said they would be supportive of kids from other neighborhoods helping balance demographics. They are merely looking for the most likely and feasible solution. Besides south Arlington parents aren’t paying attention. To anything. They are largely a clueless bunch.
I hate to break it to you, something is going to happen.
My guess is that they spilt up that group. Half will get to stay, and half will get shifted. THat of course is the worst possible outcome. All of those kids need to go to help demographics. The crazy Swanson poster is probably get their way, but the argument will likely make things worse for their neighbors.
Oh well. It’s the Arlington Way.
Anonymous
10/15/2017 11:20
Subject: APS middle school boundary process
Yeah, cuz you're in walking distance to Swanson.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:^^^ the good people of Aurora highlands and Arlington ridge will happily trade mortgages.
+1
Anonymous
10/15/2017 11:18
Subject: APS middle school boundary process
Anonymous wrote:^^^ the good people of Aurora highlands and Arlington ridge will happily trade mortgages.
+1
Anonymous
10/15/2017 11:14
Subject: APS middle school boundary process
Nice. Hope they listen to the community in soundly rejecting any scenario that busses walking kids who live half a mile away. We'll see.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yep. Like I said, I hope you get absolutely nothing based on screwing over walkers who live less than a mile from Swanson. Double down on the strategy of stiffing walkers rather than finding a reasonable solution.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I would bet the plan is already wired to screw over the Swanson walkers. They just aren't rich enough for the SB to care. That said, I hope that the Swanson walkers win and get to walk to their neighborhood school, and that the S Arlington contingent so intent on screwing those middle class kids, rather than advocating for kids from other neighborhoods already in buses to go to Kenmore, get absolutely nothing.
Seriously???? - people MM and DH who live in 700, 800, 900k+ houses are only middle class? Everyone here needs a reality check. Move along to Kenmore and be done with this.
Why do you have such a persecution complex? You know staff created these scenarios, right? Not the community, and certainly not some super secret conspiracy of residents of upper North Arlington and South Arlington who are intent on "screwing" their central Arlington neighbors. These neighborhoods are pulled into a scenario based on proximity to the current Kenmore boundary. That is not an unreasonable thing for staff to have presented. If you have other suggestions that balance competing priorities, make them.
And stop talking about those who'd be moved into the Kenmore boundary as being "screwed" or "sacrificed," because there are a lot of innocent kids, who are better humans than you, who will be attending that school regardless of any boundary.
Anonymous
10/15/2017 11:10
Subject: APS middle school boundary process
Anonymous wrote:Yep. Like I said, I hope you get absolutely nothing based on screwing over walkers who live less than a mile from Swanson. Double down on the strategy of stiffing walkers rather than finding a reasonable solution.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I would bet the plan is already wired to screw over the Swanson walkers. They just aren't rich enough for the SB to care. That said, I hope that the Swanson walkers win and get to walk to their neighborhood school, and that the S Arlington contingent so intent on screwing those middle class kids, rather than advocating for kids from other neighborhoods already in buses to go to Kenmore, get absolutely nothing.
Seriously???? - people MM and DH who live in 700, 800, 900k+ houses are only middle class? Everyone here needs a reality check. Move along to Kenmore and be done with this.
Why do you have such a persecution complex? You know staff created these scenarios, right? Not the community, and certainly not some super secret conspiracy of residents of upper North Arlington and South Arlington who are intent on "screwing" their central Arlington neighbors. These neighborhoods are pulled into a scenario based on proximity to the current Kenmore boundary. That is not an unreasonable thing for staff to have presented. If you have other suggestions that balance competing priorities, make them.
And stop talking about those who'd be moved into the Kenmore boundary as being "screwed" or "sacrificed," because there are a lot of innocent kids, who are better humans than you, who will be attending that school regardless of any boundary.
Anonymous
10/15/2017 11:10
Subject: APS middle school boundary process
And the most likely solution is targeting less wealthy walkers rather than proposing an alternate solution. So I hope they get nothing.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I would bet the plan is already wired to screw over the Swanson walkers. They just aren't rich enough for the SB to care. That said, I hope that the Swanson walkers win and get to walk to their neighborhood school, and that the S Arlington contingent so intent on screwing those middle class kids, rather than advocating for kids from other neighborhoods already in buses to go to Kenmore, get absolutely nothing.
That is in your head. There is no South Arlington coalition asking that Families currently zoned Swason get screwed. I don’t know how many times people on this thread have said they would be supportive of kids from other neighborhoods helping balance demographics. They are merely looking for the most likely and feasible solution. Besides south Arlington parents aren’t paying attention. To anything. They are largely a clueless bunch.
Anonymous
10/15/2017 11:07
Subject: APS middle school boundary process
Anonymous wrote:I would bet the plan is already wired to screw over the Swanson walkers. They just aren't rich enough for the SB to care. That said, I hope that the Swanson walkers win and get to walk to their neighborhood school, and that the S Arlington contingent so intent on screwing those middle class kids, rather than advocating for kids from other neighborhoods already in buses to go to Kenmore, get absolutely nothing.
That is in your head. There is no South Arlington coalition asking that Families currently zoned Swason get screwed. I don’t know how many times people on this thread have said they would be supportive of kids from other neighborhoods helping balance demographics. They are merely looking for the most likely and feasible solution. Besides south Arlington parents aren’t paying attention. To anything. They are largely a clueless bunch.
Anonymous
10/15/2017 11:04
Subject: APS middle school boundary process
Here's a scenario. 1D. I hope to see it happen.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Many DH and MM kids would remain walkers even if they get moved.
At its nearest point to Swanson, DH is .3mi. At its nearest point to Kenmore it is 1.0mi. At its furthest point to Swanson it is .8mi. It’s furthest point to Kenmore is 2.3mi. Definitely will turn lots of walkers into bus riders. I haven’t done the math on the distances that would be involved for the kids currently in Jefferson or Kenmore walk zones who would become bus riders. Driving all these kids through each others’ neighborhoods is plain silly.
There are no new PU's from the Kenmore or Jefferson walk zones who are going to be bused to Swanson. There are some PU's that are probably closer to Jefferson than they are to Swanson but THAT IS NOT NEW. Buckingham has been zoned to Swanson for a very long time.
I get it, you want all the fr/l ELL students out of Swanson and back "where they belong," because you paid good money for your segregation and all.
And you don't need to "do the math." Staff put out the numbers, and none of the scenarios they want feedback on increase the number of bus riders. Try to keep up.
FFS, stop throwing the race card. Families want their kids to walk to the school in their neighborhood. This is not complicated, nor is it some secret racist code.
Then stop bringing up scenarios that aren't actually on the table, and stop talking about PU's that already belong to Swanson as if they don't. Are those families asking to be moved?
And of course this is about race; whether you want to see it or not is another question.
Anonymous
10/15/2017 10:59
Subject: APS middle school boundary process
Yep. Like I said, I hope you get absolutely nothing based on screwing over walkers who live less than a mile from Swanson. Double down on the strategy of stiffing walkers rather than finding a reasonable solution.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I would bet the plan is already wired to screw over the Swanson walkers. They just aren't rich enough for the SB to care. That said, I hope that the Swanson walkers win and get to walk to their neighborhood school, and that the S Arlington contingent so intent on screwing those middle class kids, rather than advocating for kids from other neighborhoods already in buses to go to Kenmore, get absolutely nothing.
Seriously???? - people MM and DH who live in 700, 800, 900k+ houses are only middle class? Everyone here needs a reality check. Move along to Kenmore and be done with this.