No one knows what 9:58 is talking about.

And it's already illegal to serve alcohol to a minor, even in Montgomery County.

You appear to be looking ridiculous on purpose. Are you the poster complaining to admin to have certain posts removed from this discussion? What's your real motive here? Please be honest...

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Montgomery County needs to indeed CHARGE the North Potomac father who supplied the alcohol to underaged kids at the party in his home. That is a CRIME and MUST be treated as such. With JAIL time. Even 48 hours for him would be better than NOTHING.

Which law was broken? This is a serious question because the real issue may not be with law enforcement. It might instead be a legislative issue - we may actually need to pass laws making it illegal to serve alcohol to a minor.

involuntary manslaughter. Serving a minor alcohol and then allowing him to drive drunk.

+1

Except he did not drive home from the party. He had a designated driver.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Montgomery County needs to indeed CHARGE the North Potomac father who supplied the alcohol to underaged kids at the party in his home. That is a CRIME and MUST be treated as such. With JAIL time. Even 48 hours for him would be better than NOTHING.

Which law was broken? This is a serious question because the real issue may not be with law enforcement. It might instead be a legislative issue - we may actually need to pass laws making it illegal to serve alcohol to a minor.

involuntary manslaughter. Serving a minor alcohol and then allowing him to drive drunk.

+1

Anonymous wrote:And FYI:

FOR YEARS, Maryland law has coddled drunk drivers, a perversion of the public interest and a direct threat to public safety. For that, Marylanders may blame one man: Joseph F. Vallario Jr., chairman of the House Judiciary Committee in Annapolis and, not coincidentally, a trial lawyer who defends drunk drivers in court when he’s not defending them in the legislature.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/one-sip-over-the-line/2015/03/20/02785126-ce86-11e4-8c54-ffb5ba6f2f69_story.html

Surprising that the evil politician Joseph F. Vallario Jr. is a Democrat. Very surprising. He needs to get voted out. Who might be a better viable replacement for him on this issue?

Thank you to all the concerned posters providing detailed information.

Anonymous wrote:And FYI:

FOR YEARS, Maryland law has coddled drunk drivers, a perversion of the public interest and a direct threat to public safety. For that, Marylanders may blame one man: Joseph F. Vallario Jr., chairman of the House Judiciary Committee in Annapolis and, not coincidentally, a trial lawyer who defends drunk drivers in court when he’s not defending them in the legislature.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/one-sip-over-the-line/2015/03/20/02785126-ce86-11e4-8c54-ffb5ba6f2f69_story.html

I used to work down there and agree with this, sadly.

Here's the task force's final report. http://dlslibrary.state.md.us/publications/Exec/MDOT/MSAR_6148_2008.pdf

fWIW the MoCo delegate who worked on this is very anti drunk driving. And so is Leggett. He got hit by a drunk driver a couple of years ago. But the laws that need to be charged are state laws....the county alone can't do it.

And FYI:

FOR YEARS, Maryland law has coddled drunk drivers, a perversion of the public interest and a direct threat to public safety. For that, Marylanders may blame one man: Joseph F. Vallario Jr., chairman of the House Judiciary Committee in Annapolis and, not coincidentally, a trial lawyer who defends drunk drivers in court when he’s not defending them in the legislature.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/one-sip-over-the-line/2015/03/20/02785126-ce86-11e4-8c54-ffb5ba6f2f69_story.html

Easy to do a search on the influence of the alcohol lobby on the Maryland legislature:


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/11/AR2010031104792.html

Anonymous wrote:

Montgomery County needs to indeed CHARGE the North Potomac father who supplied the alcohol to underaged kids at the party in his home. That is a CRIME and MUST be treated as such. With JAIL time. Even 48 hours for him would be better than NOTHING.

Which law was broken? This is a serious question because the real issue may not be with law enforcement. It might instead be a legislative issue - we may actually need to pass laws making it illegal to serve alcohol to a minor.

involuntary manslaughter. Serving a minor alcohol and then allowing him to drive drunk.

But here is another problem no one is taking about.
The parents of the party goers know exactly what is going on. To me, they are just as guilty. These parents hosted these parties regularly. This girl's house was the known "party house" by not only the students but the parents too and the parents look the other way because no one wants to tell their teenagers "no" at the expense of looking uncool or like they aren't on their side.
If my kid is at a house where I know drinking is happening, I'm calling the cops. If my teenage neighbors are drinking, I'm calling the cops. Would you have the guts to do the same thing?
In addition, this perpetual adolescence I see among my friends/peers needs to stop. There is no need for 40-something's to be getting as drunk as much as they are. Your 20s are over. You now have responsibility and children who watch EVERYTHING you do, so set a good example. Not that you can't go out with friends and have a few, but the behavior I witness by my neighbors and friends is gross. Grow up, and stop glorifying drinking and getting hammered and maybe your kids won't feel like they have to as well.
It starts at home.

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Everyone knows serving alcohol to minors is a crime.

Yes, but it's a misdemeanor with a fine of only $2,500 for first offense and $5,000 for subsequent offenses. So, crime, yes. But no possibility of jail time.

That's shocking.
If I'm not mistaken, you can get jail time in Fairfax County. Good to know who cares about its youth around here.

Yell at the General Assembly. They received a report looking at alcohol violations regarding minors (who serves them, etc.), and recommended jail time. The legislators said no.

This is extremely disappointing, so thank you for sharing this. Any chance you could provide the names of the legislators who voted no on this? Or a link? Am also curious who prepared the report and who lobbied the legislators to vote no. Was there a campaign to pressure them to vote yes?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Everyone knows serving alcohol to minors is a crime.

Yes, but it's a misdemeanor with a fine of only $2,500 for first offense and $5,000 for subsequent offenses. So, crime, yes. But no possibility of jail time.

That's shocking.
If I'm not mistaken, you can get jail time in Fairfax County. Good to know who cares about its youth around here.

Yell at the General Assembly. They received a report looking at alcohol violations regarding minors (who serves them, etc.), and recommended jail time. The legislators said no.

Anonymous wrote:

Everyone knows serving alcohol to minors is a crime.

Yes, but it's a misdemeanor with a fine of only $2,500 for first offense and $5,000 for subsequent offenses. So, crime, yes. But no possibility of jail time.

That's shocking.
If I'm not mistaken, you can get jail time in Fairfax County. Good to know who cares about its youth around here.

Everyone knows serving alcohol to minors is a crime.

Yes, but it's a misdemeanor with a fine of only $2,500 for first offense and $5,000 for subsequent offenses. So, crime, yes. But no possibility of jail time.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is everyone on a witch hunt for this kid? Do you not think he punishes himself everyday at the thought of his killing his two friends?
He should get jail time, and so should the dad hosting the party, but the way people are up in arms about not having a sentence yet...jeez.
This takes time, the Sherwood kid just got sentenced and that accident was over a year ago.

People are up in arms because they know that the mystery person who gave the minors the alcohol just before the deadly car crash, will get off with zero jail time for his crime. Compare that to the poor guy in SE dc who got caught sharing his illegal drug stash with some neighborhood kids looking to celebrate their recent high school graduation and acceptance to college.

No one needs to get killed or even get hurt in that scenario, but you know who's going to jail, don't you? Mostly likely not just the guy who shared his drug supply, but the kids to! And no one in DC government is going to let a single one of them on out on the streets to "punish himself every day with the thought of" anything.

Wake up, Montgomery County, your law enforcement rules are only for the poor, not the wealthy well-to-do and well-connected with local politicians. This corruption will only result in more dead bodies. This is not what anyone wants, is it?

Everyone knows serving alcohol to minors is a crime.

Montgomery County needs to indeed CHARGE the North Potomac father who supplied the alcohol to underaged kids at the party in his home. That is a CRIME and MUST be treated as such. With JAIL time. Even 48 hours for him would be better than NOTHING.

Which law was broken? This is a serious question because the real issue may not be with law enforcement. It might instead be a legislative issue - we may actually need to pass laws making it illegal to serve alcohol to a minor.