Anonymous
Post 08/14/2025 15:56     Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s the GA delay honestly. ECNL is obvious.


GA announced to all their clubs already, their regional U13/14 showcases will allow 3 trapped U15 players. My daughter’s GA club already told parents they bringing 3 2011s to showcase with 2012s.

Just ask your GA director.

If this is true (currently unconfirmed) we'll know GAs position on SY/BY by December because that's when their first showcase is scheduled to occur in Norco.


They can only play in the regional showcases. I should have been more specific. But we had a club meeting and they announced it and said it won’t go into effect until Fall 26.


This doesn’t make sense. 2011s won’t be trapped in fall 2026.
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2025 15:39     Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s the GA delay honestly. ECNL is obvious.


GA announced to all their clubs already, their regional U13/14 showcases will allow 3 trapped U15 players. My daughter’s GA club already told parents they bringing 3 2011s to showcase with 2012s.

Just ask your GA director.

If this is true (currently unconfirmed) we'll know GAs position on SY/BY by December because that's when their first showcase is scheduled to occur in Norco.


They can only play in the regional showcases. I should have been more specific. But we had a club meeting and they announced it and said it won’t go into effect until Fall 26.
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2025 15:30     Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s the GA delay honestly. ECNL is obvious.


GA announced to all their clubs already, their regional U13/14 showcases will allow 3 trapped U15 players. My daughter’s GA club already told parents they bringing 3 2011s to showcase with 2012s.

Just ask your GA director.

If this is true (currently unconfirmed) we'll know GAs position on SY/BY by December because that's when their first showcase is scheduled to occur in Norco.
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2025 15:29     Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s the GA delay honestly. ECNL is obvious.


GA announced to all their clubs already, their regional U13/14 showcases will allow 3 trapped U15 players. My daughter’s GA club already told parents they bringing 3 2011s to showcase with 2012s.

Just ask your GA director.

Which GA club?


Santa Clara Sporting, Northern California.
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2025 15:14     Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s the GA delay honestly. ECNL is obvious.


GA announced to all their clubs already, their regional U13/14 showcases will allow 3 trapped U15 players. My daughter’s GA club already told parents they bringing 3 2011s to showcase with 2012s.

Just ask your GA director.

Which GA club?
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2025 15:02     Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2

Anonymous wrote:It’s the GA delay honestly. ECNL is obvious.


GA announced to all their clubs already, their regional U13/14 showcases will allow 3 trapped U15 players. My daughter’s GA club already told parents they bringing 3 2011s to showcase with 2012s.

Just ask your GA director.
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2025 14:32     Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
- Showcase results where different regional teams play each other count for playoff seeding.


Where have showcase results ever factored into ECNL playoffs? You qualify based on placing with your ECNL league. Then the 44 teams are ranked on PPG (points per game), then separated into four tiers, then groups for group play randomly selected with one team from each tier.

Every wildcard in playoffs includes showcase results.
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2025 13:06     Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2

Anonymous wrote:
- Showcase results where different regional teams play each other count for playoff seeding.


Where have showcase results ever factored into ECNL playoffs? You qualify based on placing with your ECNL league. Then the 44 teams are ranked on PPG (points per game), then separated into four tiers, then groups for group play randomly selected with one team from each tier.
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2025 13:04     Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:It’s insane the length of delay in announcing these plans for next year…whether it’s GA and their current lack of transparency or ECNL making a open and formal announcement of the exact timing for the age change. Players and clubs should be looking ahead to the next adventure. But no.


ECNL is governed by US Club Soccer. US Club Soccer said the age matrix changes in 26/27. ECNL doesn't need to make a separate announcement. Why this is so hard for people to understand, I have no idea.

https://usclubsoccer.org/age-group-cut-off-update-for-2026-27-season/


I am curious if they go with 9/1 or not. They seemed like they wanted 8/1 and per what US Soccer put out they could go 8/1 since no announcement maybe this is considered??
Also would like to see if they make any adjustments in the spring.



Ok, I think everyone wants to know if there'll be spring "adjustments" ... But at this point, asking if they'll go 9/1 is basically like asking if they'll go 1/1 (a nonstarter for a group that already made the announcement).

Its not possible to implement SY early for X number of players. If ECNL wants to maintain the integrity of the league.

This is because different regional leagues play games at different times of year and they play various number of games per league. Theres no way to implement the rule evenly across the entire league. If its not implemented evenly theres a good chance some teams would have a serious advantage in showcases (which count for playoff seediing) and playoffs.


Here goes "integrity guy" again. Everyone would play by the same rules my man.

Ok you seem to think you know better. How would you implement a rule allowing 4 older trapped players to play down with another team in the "spring".

Keep in mind...
- Regional leagues play a different number of games
- Regional leagues play different times of the year
- Showcase results where different regional teams play each other count for playoff seeding.

Make sure you keep your solution evenly applied to all teams.


The only thing they could do, that I'm surprised they didn't do, is relax the rules for their pre-ecnl leagues and showcases. Those aren't real leagues or competitions anyway, they're just for fun and experience, why not schedule those with the new age groups.


Unless the showcases count for standings, that’s a one time event and something that can be done and still may be done.

Pre ecnl is different. Think through the logistics. The August-December players who aren’t top players on the u13 team come down to pre ecnl, where does that put 2014 August-December birthdays? The u11 team is still BY.

Nothing happens in isolation. It’s easy to say one age group, one league, etc is going to do something different but the logistics of doing that can be quite difficult.
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2025 12:50     Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s insane the length of delay in announcing these plans for next year…whether it’s GA and their current lack of transparency or ECNL making a open and formal announcement of the exact timing for the age change. Players and clubs should be looking ahead to the next adventure. But no.


ECNL is governed by US Club Soccer. US Club Soccer said the age matrix changes in 26/27. ECNL doesn't need to make a separate announcement. Why this is so hard for people to understand, I have no idea.

https://usclubsoccer.org/age-group-cut-off-update-for-2026-27-season/


I am curious if they go with 9/1 or not. They seemed like they wanted 8/1 and per what US Soccer put out they could go 8/1 since no announcement maybe this is considered??
Also would like to see if they make any adjustments in the spring.



Ok, I think everyone wants to know if there'll be spring "adjustments" ... But at this point, asking if they'll go 9/1 is basically like asking if they'll go 1/1 (a nonstarter for a group that already made the announcement).

Its not possible to implement SY early for X number of players. If ECNL wants to maintain the integrity of the league.

This is because different regional leagues play games at different times of year and they play various number of games per league. Theres no way to implement the rule evenly across the entire league. If its not implemented evenly theres a good chance some teams would have a serious advantage in showcases (which count for playoff seediing) and playoffs.


Here goes "integrity guy" again. Everyone would play by the same rules my man.

Ok you seem to think you know better. How would you implement a rule allowing 4 older trapped players to play down with another team in the "spring".

Keep in mind...
- Regional leagues play a different number of games
- Regional leagues play different times of the year
- Showcase results where different regional teams play each other count for playoff seeding.

Make sure you keep your solution evenly applied to all teams.


The only thing they could do, that I'm surprised they didn't do, is relax the rules for their pre-ecnl leagues and showcases. Those aren't real leagues or competitions anyway, they're just for fun and experience, why not schedule those with the new age groups.
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2025 12:38     Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s insane the length of delay in announcing these plans for next year…whether it’s GA and their current lack of transparency or ECNL making a open and formal announcement of the exact timing for the age change. Players and clubs should be looking ahead to the next adventure. But no.


ECNL is governed by US Club Soccer. US Club Soccer said the age matrix changes in 26/27. ECNL doesn't need to make a separate announcement. Why this is so hard for people to understand, I have no idea.

https://usclubsoccer.org/age-group-cut-off-update-for-2026-27-season/


I am curious if they go with 9/1 or not. They seemed like they wanted 8/1 and per what US Soccer put out they could go 8/1 since no announcement maybe this is considered??
Also would like to see if they make any adjustments in the spring.



Ok, I think everyone wants to know if there'll be spring "adjustments" ... But at this point, asking if they'll go 9/1 is basically like asking if they'll go 1/1 (a nonstarter for a group that already made the announcement).

Its not possible to implement SY early for X number of players. If ECNL wants to maintain the integrity of the league.

This is because different regional leagues play games at different times of year and they play various number of games per league. Theres no way to implement the rule evenly across the entire league. If its not implemented evenly theres a good chance some teams would have a serious advantage in showcases (which count for playoff seediing) and playoffs.


Here goes "integrity guy" again. Everyone would play by the same rules my man.

Ok you seem to think you know better. How would you implement a rule allowing 4 older trapped players to play down with another team in the "spring".

Keep in mind...
- Regional leagues play a different number of games
- Regional leagues play different times of the year
- Showcase results where different regional teams play each other count for playoff seeding.

Make sure you keep your solution evenly applied to all teams.
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2025 12:29     Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s insane the length of delay in announcing these plans for next year…whether it’s GA and their current lack of transparency or ECNL making a open and formal announcement of the exact timing for the age change. Players and clubs should be looking ahead to the next adventure. But no.


ECNL is governed by US Club Soccer. US Club Soccer said the age matrix changes in 26/27. ECNL doesn't need to make a separate announcement. Why this is so hard for people to understand, I have no idea.

https://usclubsoccer.org/age-group-cut-off-update-for-2026-27-season/


I am curious if they go with 9/1 or not. They seemed like they wanted 8/1 and per what US Soccer put out they could go 8/1 since no announcement maybe this is considered??
Also would like to see if they make any adjustments in the spring.



Ok, I think everyone wants to know if there'll be spring "adjustments" ... But at this point, asking if they'll go 9/1 is basically like asking if they'll go 1/1 (a nonstarter for a group that already made the announcement).

Its not possible to implement SY early for X number of players. If ECNL wants to maintain the integrity of the league.

This is because different regional leagues play games at different times of year and they play various number of games per league. Theres no way to implement the rule evenly across the entire league. If its not implemented evenly theres a good chance some teams would have a serious advantage in showcases (which count for playoff seediing) and playoffs.


Here goes "integrity guy" again. Everyone would play by the same rules my man.
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2025 11:57     Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s insane the length of delay in announcing these plans for next year…whether it’s GA and their current lack of transparency or ECNL making a open and formal announcement of the exact timing for the age change. Players and clubs should be looking ahead to the next adventure. But no.


ECNL is governed by US Club Soccer. US Club Soccer said the age matrix changes in 26/27. ECNL doesn't need to make a separate announcement. Why this is so hard for people to understand, I have no idea.

https://usclubsoccer.org/age-group-cut-off-update-for-2026-27-season/


I am curious if they go with 9/1 or not. They seemed like they wanted 8/1 and per what US Soccer put out they could go 8/1 since no announcement maybe this is considered??
Also would like to see if they make any adjustments in the spring.



Ok, I think everyone wants to know if there'll be spring "adjustments" ... But at this point, asking if they'll go 9/1 is basically like asking if they'll go 1/1 (a nonstarter for a group that already made the announcement).

Its not possible to implement SY early for X number of players. If ECNL wants to maintain the integrity of the league.

This is because different regional leagues play games at different times of year and they play various number of games per league. Theres no way to implement the rule evenly across the entire league. If its not implemented evenly theres a good chance some teams would have a serious advantage in showcases (which count for playoff seediing) and playoffs.
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2025 11:49     Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s insane the length of delay in announcing these plans for next year…whether it’s GA and their current lack of transparency or ECNL making a open and formal announcement of the exact timing for the age change. Players and clubs should be looking ahead to the next adventure. But no.


ECNL is governed by US Club Soccer. US Club Soccer said the age matrix changes in 26/27. ECNL doesn't need to make a separate announcement. Why this is so hard for people to understand, I have no idea.

https://usclubsoccer.org/age-group-cut-off-update-for-2026-27-season/


I am curious if they go with 9/1 or not. They seemed like they wanted 8/1 and per what US Soccer put out they could go 8/1 since no announcement maybe this is considered??
Also would like to see if they make any adjustments in the spring.


If US Club announced 8/1 its a 99.999% chance that ECNL will also do 8/1.

The only reason to do 9/1 is so Aug birthday players can't play down. But this can be addressed with a rule or ECNL directive to member clubs to not allow playing down a grade even when its technically possible.
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2025 11:46     Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s insane the length of delay in announcing these plans for next year…whether it’s GA and their current lack of transparency or ECNL making a open and formal announcement of the exact timing for the age change. Players and clubs should be looking ahead to the next adventure. But no.


ECNL is governed by US Club Soccer. US Club Soccer said the age matrix changes in 26/27. ECNL doesn't need to make a separate announcement. Why this is so hard for people to understand, I have no idea.

https://usclubsoccer.org/age-group-cut-off-update-for-2026-27-season/


I am curious if they go with 9/1 or not. They seemed like they wanted 8/1 and per what US Soccer put out they could go 8/1 since no announcement maybe this is considered??
Also would like to see if they make any adjustments in the spring.



Ok, I think everyone wants to know if there'll be spring "adjustments" ... But at this point, asking if they'll go 9/1 is basically like asking if they'll go 1/1 (a nonstarter for a group that already made the announcement).