Anonymous
02/23/2024 11:00
Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership
My son has played “elite” level club MLSNext, ECNL — it’s laughable to him that people say HS is rough. In his opinion, the only “rough” players in HS are the ones who’ve played in those leagues…And, in his view, if you think any part of youth soccer is rough, try playing against some college or pro players sometime!
Anonymous
02/23/2024 10:57
Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership
So what does this mean for Super Y -- will mclean and brave have separate super y teams?
Anonymous
02/23/2024 10:54
Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So what do the Brave girls say about all this? I feel like they must be less happy with these developments.
Why?
Probably feel no different than the McLean-Union girls — same mix of reactions for all.
I would expect brave girls to be much more worried about being cut
No one is getting cut. The roster size will be big.
Anonymous
02/23/2024 10:37
Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why are the boys' divisions of McLean and BRYC underperforming? Despite participation in lower-tier tournaments, both Union and Brave face defeats against average EDP teams, even though these travel programs cost significantly more. It's worth noting that SYC's second team actually outperforms Union, raising the question of whether ECNL boys really offer a superior league. Based on discussions, it appears that major clubs in Northern Virginia participating in ECNL for boys are considering a switch to MLS Next, but they hesitate due to the potential risk of losing their ECNL charter for girls' teams.
Because boys opt for other clubs. SYC now has two MLS Next teams, and it never sent any players of note to Union. SYC is smart to keep the talent and paying families by making two tiers. Other boys who have talent will opt for Arlington or Loudoun if they live W
High school. Most boys play HS soccer which is why they don’t move to MLSNext. The private kids can lie and get waivers— not so with public school kids.
HS soccer is poor quality and injury prone. Lasts 3 months.
Why choose that over MLS Next if you have the quality to make your local MLS Next team?
We have HS soccer to thank for an injury that lasted a full year. Coaches with zero idea of training load or body mechanics. Half the team is injured before the season even starts.
Every year for years, consistently, you hear from parents, players, club coaches and orthopedic doctors about the excessively high rate of injuries in HS soccer (in just the brief season they have)
Yet parents are lined up fighting to throw their little gladiators into the colosseum.
Anonymous
02/23/2024 10:36
Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So what do the Brave girls say about all this? I feel like they must be less happy with these developments.
Why?
Probably feel no different than the McLean-Union girls — same mix of reactions for all.
I would expect brave girls to be much more worried about being cut
Anonymous
02/23/2024 10:35
Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So what do the Brave girls say about all this? I feel like they must be less happy with these developments.
Why?
Probably feel no different than the McLean-Union girls — same mix of reactions for all.
Same for all of the coaches and Directors which makes me think this union may actually have a chance.
Anonymous
02/23/2024 10:30
Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership
Anonymous wrote:So what do the Brave girls say about all this? I feel like they must be less happy with these developments.
Why?
Probably feel no different than the McLean-Union girls — same mix of reactions for all.
Anonymous
02/23/2024 10:23
Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why are the boys' divisions of McLean and BRYC underperforming? Despite participation in lower-tier tournaments, both Union and Brave face defeats against average EDP teams, even though these travel programs cost significantly more. It's worth noting that SYC's second team actually outperforms Union, raising the question of whether ECNL boys really offer a superior league. Based on discussions, it appears that major clubs in Northern Virginia participating in ECNL for boys are considering a switch to MLS Next, but they hesitate due to the potential risk of losing their ECNL charter for girls' teams.
Because boys opt for other clubs. SYC now has two MLS Next teams, and it never sent any players of note to Union. SYC is smart to keep the talent and paying families by making two tiers. Other boys who have talent will opt for Arlington or Loudoun if they live W
High school. Most boys play HS soccer which is why they don’t move to MLSNext. The private kids can lie and get waivers— not so with public school kids.
HS soccer is poor quality and injury prone. Lasts 3 months.
Why choose that over MLS Next if you have the quality to make your local MLS Next team?
We have HS soccer to thank for an injury that lasted a full year. Coaches with zero idea of training load or body mechanics. Half the team is injured before the season even starts.
Anonymous
02/23/2024 10:21
Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why are the boys' divisions of McLean and BRYC underperforming? Despite participation in lower-tier tournaments, both Union and Brave face defeats against average EDP teams, even though these travel programs cost significantly more. It's worth noting that SYC's second team actually outperforms Union, raising the question of whether ECNL boys really offer a superior league. Based on discussions, it appears that major clubs in Northern Virginia participating in ECNL for boys are considering a switch to MLS Next, but they hesitate due to the potential risk of losing their ECNL charter for girls' teams.
Because boys opt for other clubs. SYC now has two MLS Next teams, and it never sent any players of note to Union. SYC is smart to keep the talent and paying families by making two tiers. Other boys who have talent will opt for Arlington or Loudoun if they live W
High school. Most boys play HS soccer which is why they don’t move to MLSNext. The private kids can lie and get waivers— not so with public school kids.
HS soccer is poor quality and injury prone. Lasts 3 months.
Why choose that over MLS Next if you have the quality to make your local MLS Next team?
My kid didn't make the HS team, but made the top MLSNext team. It was pretty hysterical. I agree with the quality of HS soccer. Poo-poo Lot of kids on the HS team that don't play club, much less a top team.
Anonymous
02/23/2024 10:18
Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why are the boys' divisions of McLean and BRYC underperforming? Despite participation in lower-tier tournaments, both Union and Brave face defeats against average EDP teams, even though these travel programs cost significantly more. It's worth noting that SYC's second team actually outperforms Union, raising the question of whether ECNL boys really offer a superior league. Based on discussions, it appears that major clubs in Northern Virginia participating in ECNL for boys are considering a switch to MLS Next, but they hesitate due to the potential risk of losing their ECNL charter for girls' teams.
Because boys opt for other clubs. SYC now has two MLS Next teams, and it never sent any players of note to Union. SYC is smart to keep the talent and paying families by making two tiers. Other boys who have talent will opt for Arlington or Loudoun if they live W
High school. Most boys play HS soccer which is why they don’t move to MLSNext. The private kids can lie and get waivers— not so with public school kids.
HS soccer is poor quality and injury prone. Lasts 3 months.
Why choose that over MLS Next if you have the quality to make your local MLS Next team?
Anonymous
02/23/2024 09:57
Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership
So what do the Brave girls say about all this? I feel like they must be less happy with these developments.
Anonymous
02/23/2024 09:48
Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why are the boys' divisions of McLean and BRYC underperforming? Despite participation in lower-tier tournaments, both Union and Brave face defeats against average EDP teams, even though these travel programs cost significantly more. It's worth noting that SYC's second team actually outperforms Union, raising the question of whether ECNL boys really offer a superior league. Based on discussions, it appears that major clubs in Northern Virginia participating in ECNL for boys are considering a switch to MLS Next, but they hesitate due to the potential risk of losing their ECNL charter for girls' teams.
Because boys opt for other clubs. SYC now has two MLS Next teams, and it never sent any players of note to Union. SYC is smart to keep the talent and paying families by making two tiers. Other boys who have talent will opt for Arlington or Loudoun if they live W
High school. Most boys play HS soccer which is why they don’t move to MLSNext. The private kids can lie and get waivers— not so with public school kids.
Anonymous
02/23/2024 09:31
Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership
Anonymous wrote:Why are the boys' divisions of McLean and BRYC underperforming? Despite participation in lower-tier tournaments, both Union and Brave face defeats against average EDP teams, even though these travel programs cost significantly more. It's worth noting that SYC's second team actually outperforms Union, raising the question of whether ECNL boys really offer a superior league. Based on discussions, it appears that major clubs in Northern Virginia participating in ECNL for boys are considering a switch to MLS Next, but they hesitate due to the potential risk of losing their ECNL charter for girls' teams.
Because boys opt for other clubs. SYC now has two MLS Next teams, and it never sent any players of note to Union. SYC is smart to keep the talent and paying families by making two tiers. Other boys who have talent will opt for Arlington or Loudoun if they live W
Anonymous
02/23/2024 09:28
Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Coaching slots
07/06 - TM
08 - MV
09 - BL
10 - MV
11 - LO
12 - BL
Confirmed ✅
Fixed
Coaching slots
07/06 - McLean
08 - Brave
09 - McLean
10 - McLean
11 - Brave
12 - Brave
Confirmed
Heard this version too.
Confirmed
Anonymous
02/23/2024 09:26
Subject: Re:ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership
Anonymous wrote:Unless totally mismanaged their girls’ ECNL team should dominate.
Unclear how GFR fits into this mix. They really should feed into FXU not NVA.
FXU should have several ECNL R teams and arguably could support two ECNL girls team.
I suspect MLS next will dominate in the boys arena.
Boys ECNL may go the way of Girls Academy.
The boys ECNL is just fine. MLS next is not looking to add every team in. When was the last time they added a team?