Anonymous
Post 09/20/2023 12:55     Subject: 2024 US News rankings
Anonymous wrote:Isn’t TJ a center for Science and Technology? Since UVA is no powerhouse in either, it’s obvious that instate tuition is the major consideration for most students to attend. That Michigan offers admission to that many students at that particular school tells me a few things. The students at TJ are very strong. It also proves that Michigan doesn’t practice yield protection, since you say so few students would ever consider attending.


If money is a consideration, there are other strong choices. UVA absolutely practices yield protection - I have seen it in action by close family members.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2023 12:48     Subject: 2024 US News rankings
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Dartmouth has been wildly overrated for a while, so this new ranking isn’t surprising to me.

Top 15 all look about accurate to me.


True. Dartmouth is truly the lowest ivy. People think it's Cornell because Cornell stats gets dragged down because of its agriculture and hotel schools. But Dartmouth is hands down the easiest ivy to get into.


Dartmouth is #18 - so lowest ranked Ivy by far

Once again I ask what evidence to you have to make that determination? I don't think you have any.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2023 12:47     Subject: 2024 US News rankings
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Dartmouth has been wildly overrated for a while, so this new ranking isn’t surprising to me.

Top 15 all look about accurate to me.


True. Dartmouth is truly the lowest ivy. People think it's Cornell because Cornell stats gets dragged down because of its agriculture and hotel schools. But Dartmouth is hands down the easiest ivy to get into.


Very sorry that despite Dartmouth being the "easiest ivy" to get into (your words not mine), your kid STILL didn't get into Dartmouth. Hope you can find solace in wherever your student landed.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2023 12:03     Subject: 2024 US News rankings
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Dartmouth has been wildly overrated for a while, so this new ranking isn’t surprising to me.

Top 15 all look about accurate to me.


True. Dartmouth is truly the lowest ivy. People think it's Cornell because Cornell stats gets dragged down because of its agriculture and hotel schools. But Dartmouth is hands down the easiest ivy to get into.


Once again I ask what evidence to you have to make that determination? I don't think you have any.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2023 11:17     Subject: 2024 US News rankings
Anonymous wrote:My TJ kid got a 20K scholarship from UVA in an EA offer, then withdrew her Michigan RD application on the next day.

Michigan is a great school, but not worth the 80K OOS cost. You do not need a college degree to figure out the difference between 20K and 80K.

I think the opposite is true too. it is hard to imagine any Michigan kids would choose UVA if given a Michigan offer.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I can only speak for TJ as DD goes there, but Michigan is a safety school, period.

TJ gets like 30-40 acceptances there a year but only like 3-4 go. UVA on the other hand is far more competitive and any TJ student would go there over Michigan in a heart beat.


Perhaps that’s why UVA has fallen to #5 among the publics.



Of course your kid did. I would do the same thing. It’s just a shame that your instate flagship is relatively mediocre in STEM, assuming that’s why he/she attended decided to attend the high school. To say Michigan is a safety school is an insult and a ridiculous comment at the same time. It has a sub 10% admit rate for OOS applicants. A safety school for TJ would include virtually every student who applied, highly unlikely.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2023 11:14     Subject: 2024 US News rankings
Anonymous wrote:Dartmouth has been wildly overrated for a while, so this new ranking isn’t surprising to me.

Top 15 all look about accurate to me.


True. Dartmouth is truly the lowest ivy. People think it's Cornell because Cornell stats gets dragged down because of its agriculture and hotel schools. But Dartmouth is hands down the easiest ivy to get into.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2023 11:11     Subject: 2024 US News rankings
Isn’t TJ a center for Science and Technology? Since UVA is no powerhouse in either, it’s obvious that instate tuition is the major consideration for most students to attend. That Michigan offers admission to that many students at that particular school tells me a few things. The students at TJ are very strong. It also proves that Michigan doesn’t practice yield protection, since you say so few students would ever consider attending.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2023 11:09     Subject: 2024 US News rankings
My TJ kid got a 20K scholarship from UVA in an EA offer, then withdrew her Michigan RD application on the next day.

Michigan is a great school, but not worth the 80K OOS cost. You do not need a college degree to figure out the difference between 20K and 80K.

I think the opposite is true too. it is hard to imagine any Michigan kids would choose UVA if given a Michigan offer.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I can only speak for TJ as DD goes there, but Michigan is a safety school, period.

TJ gets like 30-40 acceptances there a year but only like 3-4 go. UVA on the other hand is far more competitive and any TJ student would go there over Michigan in a heart beat.


Perhaps that’s why UVA has fallen to #5 among the publics.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2023 11:06     Subject: 2024 US News rankings
Anonymous wrote:I can only speak for TJ as DD goes there, but Michigan is a safety school, period.

TJ gets like 30-40 acceptances there a year but only like 3-4 go. UVA on the other hand is far more competitive and any TJ student would go there over Michigan in a heart beat.


My TJ kid graduated from TJ few years ago in the top 1% so I can speak to this.

Neither Michigan nor UVA would be desirable for those in the top ~40% but Michigan would be preferred since Michigan has a better reputation for CS/Engineering.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2023 10:58     Subject: 2024 US News rankings
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I can only speak for TJ as DD goes there, but Michigan is a safety school, period.

TJ gets like 30-40 acceptances there a year but only like 3-4 go. UVA on the other hand is far more competitive and any TJ student would go there over Michigan in a heart beat.


If true, this is only because of in-state tuition and perhaps a preference to stay near home.


Absolutely. Do you honest believe anyone would go to UVA out of state from Michigan or California if they had the choice between their superior instate public and a lower ranked school?
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2023 10:56     Subject: 2024 US News rankings
Anonymous wrote:I can only speak for TJ as DD goes there, but Michigan is a safety school, period.

TJ gets like 30-40 acceptances there a year but only like 3-4 go. UVA on the other hand is far more competitive and any TJ student would go there over Michigan in a heart beat.


Perhaps that’s why UVA has fallen to #5 among the publics.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2023 09:46     Subject: 2024 US News rankings
Anonymous wrote:I can only speak for TJ as DD goes there, but Michigan is a safety school, period.

TJ gets like 30-40 acceptances there a year but only like 3-4 go. UVA on the other hand is far more competitive and any TJ student would go there over Michigan in a heart beat.


If true, this is only because of in-state tuition and perhaps a preference to stay near home.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2023 09:45     Subject: 2024 US News rankings
I can only speak for TJ as DD goes there, but Michigan is a safety school, period.

TJ gets like 30-40 acceptances there a year but only like 3-4 go. UVA on the other hand is far more competitive and any TJ student would go there over Michigan in a heart beat.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2023 09:44     Subject: 2024 US News rankings
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why are so many of you allowing yourselves to be taken in by a poster who is not a “UVA booster” but an obvious troll? The poster literally spews out complete nonsense in inarticulate half sentences and you all jump right on in and take her on. That makes you just as crazy as she is.

The current rankings seem pretty fair and accurate to me. Michigan is an excellent school, and so is UVA. In that order. But it isn’t a contest between those two schools. Both are highly ranked and highly regarded schools that deserve to be in the top 25. End of story.


You just assume it’s a woman?


DP. I always use she/her pronouns on this board unless someone explicitly states they are not. It's dc urban moms (or was initially). I like that the generic default here is she!

Also, apologies for adding to this thread that has gone on way to long!
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2023 08:21     Subject: 2024 US News rankings
Anonymous wrote:Dartmouth has been wildly overrated for a while, so this new ranking isn’t surprising to me.

Top 15 all look about accurate to me.


Over-rated on what criteria? Be specific.

I bet you can’t.