Anonymous
Post 08/06/2023 20:27     Subject: Re:College Football--Big Ten Expansion
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The regular season of college football typically has 12 games. Notre Dame has contracted to play 5 games per season against ACC opponents. Couldn't Notre Dame do the same with the Big Ten Conference simultaneously ? Notre Dame wouldn't have to become a member of either conference (Big Ten or ACC), yet all parties should reap substantial benefits from such an agreement.


That’s some creative thinking but the B1G would be too inconvenienced with a scheduling and media quagmire. Plus ND plays Navy and Stanford every year with no openings for cupcakes the team will be beaten into a pulp by the end of the year. The PAC 12 teams are going to get a shock to the system playing in the B1G. It’s a smash mouth League and it will grind a finesse / speed team into the dirt after a whole season. It’s a big reason they haven’t won a natty recently. It’s so brutal and a healthy speed/finesse team from a finesse will beat them in one game but a whole season in the B1G will injure and blow up that type of team by seasons end. Those PAC 12 teams better stock up on tiger balm.


Navy and Stanford are cupcakes. So you mean MORE cupcakes. How else can Notre Dame get to 9-10 wins each year without such a weak schedule?
Anonymous
Post 08/06/2023 19:29     Subject: Re:College Football--Big Ten Expansion
Anonymous wrote:The regular season of college football typically has 12 games. Notre Dame has contracted to play 5 games per season against ACC opponents. Couldn't Notre Dame do the same with the Big Ten Conference simultaneously ? Notre Dame wouldn't have to become a member of either conference (Big Ten or ACC), yet all parties should reap substantial benefits from such an agreement.


That’s some creative thinking but the B1G would be too inconvenienced with a scheduling and media quagmire. Plus ND plays Navy and Stanford every year with no openings for cupcakes the team will be beaten into a pulp by the end of the year. The PAC 12 teams are going to get a shock to the system playing in the B1G. It’s a smash mouth League and it will grind a finesse / speed team into the dirt after a whole season. It’s a big reason they haven’t won a natty recently. It’s so brutal and a healthy speed/finesse team from a finesse will beat them in one game but a whole season in the B1G will injure and blow up that type of team by seasons end. Those PAC 12 teams better stock up on tiger balm.
Anonymous
Post 08/06/2023 19:15     Subject: Re:College Football--Big Ten Expansion
The regular season of college football typically has 12 games. Notre Dame has contracted to play 5 games per season against ACC opponents. Couldn't Notre Dame do the same with the Big Ten Conference simultaneously ? Notre Dame wouldn't have to become a member of either conference (Big Ten or ACC), yet all parties should reap substantial benefits from such an agreement.
Anonymous
Post 08/06/2023 19:12     Subject: Re:College Football--Big Ten Expansion
Also, what if the other Notre Dame sports wanted to leave the ACC ? How would the buyout amount be determined ?
Anonymous
Post 08/06/2023 19:09     Subject: College Football--Big Ten Expansion
Anonymous wrote:
Notre Dame can’t join any other conference than the island of misfit toys ACC till 2036.

It’s hilarious !!!


I have read that Notre Dame signed an agreement stipulating that if Notre Dame football joined a conference prior to 2036 that it had to be with the ACC. Notre Dame foolishly signed this to get to be able to play football during Covid.

Not sure whether or not this stipulation is ironclad (makes me think about non-compete agreement restrictions).

Nevertheless, a buy-out in a reasonable amount should be more likely than for full members of the ACC such as Clemson & FSU.
Anonymous
Post 08/06/2023 19:00     Subject: College Football--Big Ten Expansion

Notre Dame can’t join any other conference than the island of misfit toys ACC till 2036.

It’s hilarious !!!
Anonymous
Post 08/06/2023 18:51     Subject: College Football--Big Ten Expansion
Anonymous wrote:“Notre Dame in the Big Ten Conference is what God intended--but who is he/she to tell Notre Dame football what to do.”

You can’t be serious….


Just the fact that you had to ask warms my heart. Thank you.
Anonymous
Post 08/06/2023 18:13     Subject: Re:College Football--Big Ten Expansion
From: The Big Ten

To: Notre Dame

We invite you plus one.
Anonymous
Post 08/06/2023 18:12     Subject: Re:College Football--Big Ten Expansion
From: The Big Ten

To: Stanford University

We invite you plus one if your plus one is....
Anonymous
Post 08/06/2023 18:11     Subject: Re:College Football--Big Ten Expansion
Getting back on the thread topic.

To Big Ten Conference: Please extend an offer to Stanford University as Northwestern needs a buddy.
Anonymous
Post 08/06/2023 18:08     Subject: College Football--Big Ten Expansion
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Good God! The Ivy League considered public colleges & one from the Midwest? Fortunately someone sobered up before those plans went through. Sniff.


They may have been confused by the name.


Probably thought that it was a small school in Northwestern Massachusetts (aka Williams College).
Anonymous
Post 08/06/2023 18:06     Subject: College Football--Big Ten Expansion
Anonymous wrote:Good God! The Ivy League considered public colleges & one from the Midwest? Fortunately someone sobered up before those plans went through. Sniff.


They may have been confused by the name.
Anonymous
Post 08/06/2023 18:02     Subject: College Football--Big Ten Expansion
Anonymous wrote:Good God! The Ivy League considered public colleges & one from the Midwest? Fortunately someone sobered up before those plans went through. Sniff.


The facts are interesting.

The Ivy League was facing a demotion in football status from the NCAA. Northwestern had similar academics and a horrible record in D-1 football (longest losing record in history at that point).
Anonymous
Post 08/06/2023 17:59     Subject: College Football--Big Ten Expansion
Good God! The Ivy League considered public colleges & one from the Midwest? Fortunately someone sobered up before those plans went through. Sniff.
Anonymous
Post 08/06/2023 17:46     Subject: College Football--Big Ten Expansion
Anonymous wrote:
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remember the arrogant ACC attitude when UMD defected. Some people even said that Louisville was a more valuable member. Then Duke said they would never play UMD again. They all got together in a huge meeting and developed / signed the ironclad GOR and smugly waxed secure and superior.

I remember thinking “ What’s FSU doing signing that thing? Are they stupid or do they know something that is secret and not totally obvious?”

Well it turns out that FSU must be run by stupid administrators and that doesn’t say much for the education quality. Everybody else wouldn’t definitely have a landing spot due to a number of factors so they have some excuses.

At any rate the loss of its most valuable member really did a number on the ACC. I feel bad for those schools.



What was UMD's main reason for defecting?


They got an invitation and the numbers were mind blowing .


Yes after adding UMD and Rutgers the media contract for the B1G doubled.


Rutgers and USC doubled the value now UCLA / USC (LA market) increases it 65 percent to 100 million per school when they join. Washington and Oregon only get 30 million because they actually lower the payment per school. The big money schools are UMD, Rutgers, Ohio State, Penn State, Michigan, Northwestern, UCLA, USC.


My understanding is that your numbers are a bit low (should be about $33 million to $36 million). The payments increase each year. Oregon & Washington can draw down up to $40 million, but must repay the excess over the base $30 some million when they start receiving their full shares.

How do you know that the payments are lowered each year ? Not sure that this is true.