Anonymous
Post 11/10/2023 10:52     Subject: "No Labels" Party

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Anonymous wrote:Romney has already publicly stated he would not take any actions that helped get Trump into the White House, and has been lobbying Manchin not to run.


If Romney was at the top of the ticket, he would be more likely to get Republican/Independent votes than Democrats support him. That would hurt Trump not help him. Most voters do not cast their vote based on the VP nominee with perhaps some exceptions (LBJ helping JFK in Texas).

Who knows what would happen in a 5-candidate race (Biden, Trump, Kennedy, West, Romney)? Right now, Trump is on track to win.


If you believe a poll a year out that says that 22% of African Americans will vote for Trump and so will 40% of the youth. Really. Really.

So many of you are working so hard to get Trump back in office. You really love authoritarianism.
Anonymous
Post 11/10/2023 07:25     Subject: "No Labels" Party

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Anonymous wrote:How does this group splitting the GOP ticket have any impact on the Democrats? Stop trying to fool people with this non-sense. And stop with the Trump boogie man candidate. He will be lucky if he’s even allowed to run or have time to campaign. The GOP has no one and will lose by more with No Labels campaigning against them. This is good.

If the Dems lose, it’s of their own doing. Provided the President doesn’t have a major health crisis, he should win even with the VP hanging on. He could send troops to the Middle East, and he’d still win. (That would really splinter the party, but having both parties implode simultaneously in the presidential race would be a good way to rejuvenate this country.)


No Labels is funded by right wing money. If you think they will run a candidate to split the GOP vote, you are sorely mistaken.


Yet, we are told time and again on this board that Manchin is a closet Republican. No doubt he’d appeal to never Trump GOPer, independents and moderates of both parties.

If Biden will indeed the Democrat nominee, then why should Dems worry ESPECIALLY against Trump? If there is soooo much worry about a 3rd party — with or without a candidate — then maybe Biden isn’t a great nominee choice. I wish the Dems would have figured out a back up choice years ago. The hubris there is ridiculous. Of course, I am don’t believe Trump will be the GOP nominee.


You don’t think the guy who has been leading the GOP field by 30 points for the entire race is going to win it? What’s going to suddenly bring him down?


Legal issues.


They've been trying to get Trump on "legal" issues for 7 years and it hasn't worked. What makes you think it's going to work this time? At some point, you have to ask yourself "maybe the guy really didn't do anything at all and we are just watching lawfare play out?"


Really? The guy has lost more cases than I can count.


Is he in jail? Has he paid ludicrous fines? Are cases in appeal? Have many of the cases been overturned?


He was never criminal prosecuted before the latest cases, which haven’t gone to trial yet, so he could not have gone to jail. But he’s paid huge amounts in damages after being found liable for everything from rape to defamation to fraud.


And let’s not forget the Trump Org was criminally convicted and fined for tax fraud.

Anonymous
Post 11/10/2023 06:54     Subject: "No Labels" Party

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Anonymous wrote:How does this group splitting the GOP ticket have any impact on the Democrats? Stop trying to fool people with this non-sense. And stop with the Trump boogie man candidate. He will be lucky if he’s even allowed to run or have time to campaign. The GOP has no one and will lose by more with No Labels campaigning against them. This is good.

If the Dems lose, it’s of their own doing. Provided the President doesn’t have a major health crisis, he should win even with the VP hanging on. He could send troops to the Middle East, and he’d still win. (That would really splinter the party, but having both parties implode simultaneously in the presidential race would be a good way to rejuvenate this country.)


No Labels is funded by right wing money. If you think they will run a candidate to split the GOP vote, you are sorely mistaken.


Yet, we are told time and again on this board that Manchin is a closet Republican. No doubt he’d appeal to never Trump GOPer, independents and moderates of both parties.

If Biden will indeed the Democrat nominee, then why should Dems worry ESPECIALLY against Trump? If there is soooo much worry about a 3rd party — with or without a candidate — then maybe Biden isn’t a great nominee choice. I wish the Dems would have figured out a back up choice years ago. The hubris there is ridiculous. Of course, I am don’t believe Trump will be the GOP nominee.


You don’t think the guy who has been leading the GOP field by 30 points for the entire race is going to win it? What’s going to suddenly bring him down?


Legal issues.


They've been trying to get Trump on "legal" issues for 7 years and it hasn't worked. What makes you think it's going to work this time? At some point, you have to ask yourself "maybe the guy really didn't do anything at all and we are just watching lawfare play out?"


Really? The guy has lost more cases than I can count.


Is he in jail? Has he paid ludicrous fines? Are cases in appeal? Have many of the cases been overturned?


He was never criminal prosecuted before the latest cases, which haven’t gone to trial yet, so he could not have gone to jail. But he’s paid huge amounts in damages after being found liable for everything from rape to defamation to fraud.
Anonymous
Post 11/10/2023 06:47     Subject: "No Labels" Party

Anonymous wrote:Romney has already publicly stated he would not take any actions that helped get Trump into the White House, and has been lobbying Manchin not to run.


If Romney was at the top of the ticket, he would be more likely to get Republican/Independent votes than Democrats support him. That would hurt Trump not help him. Most voters do not cast their vote based on the VP nominee with perhaps some exceptions (LBJ helping JFK in Texas).

Who knows what would happen in a 5-candidate race (Biden, Trump, Kennedy, West, Romney)? Right now, Trump is on track to win.

Anonymous
Post 11/09/2023 22:34     Subject: "No Labels" Party

Romney has already publicly stated he would not take any actions that helped get Trump into the White House, and has been lobbying Manchin not to run.
Anonymous
Post 11/09/2023 22:20     Subject: "No Labels" Party

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Anonymous wrote:How does this group splitting the GOP ticket have any impact on the Democrats? Stop trying to fool people with this non-sense. And stop with the Trump boogie man candidate. He will be lucky if he’s even allowed to run or have time to campaign. The GOP has no one and will lose by more with No Labels campaigning against them. This is good.

If the Dems lose, it’s of their own doing. Provided the President doesn’t have a major health crisis, he should win even with the VP hanging on. He could send troops to the Middle East, and he’d still win. (That would really splinter the party, but having both parties implode simultaneously in the presidential race would be a good way to rejuvenate this country.)


No Labels is funded by right wing money. If you think they will run a candidate to split the GOP vote, you are sorely mistaken.


Yet, we are told time and again on this board that Manchin is a closet Republican. No doubt he’d appeal to never Trump GOPer, independents and moderates of both parties.

If Biden will indeed the Democrat nominee, then why should Dems worry ESPECIALLY against Trump? If there is soooo much worry about a 3rd party — with or without a candidate — then maybe Biden isn’t a great nominee choice. I wish the Dems would have figured out a back up choice years ago. The hubris there is ridiculous. Of course, I am don’t believe Trump will be the GOP nominee.


You don’t think the guy who has been leading the GOP field by 30 points for the entire race is going to win it? What’s going to suddenly bring him down?


Legal issues.


They've been trying to get Trump on "legal" issues for 7 years and it hasn't worked. What makes you think it's going to work this time? At some point, you have to ask yourself "maybe the guy really didn't do anything at all and we are just watching lawfare play out?"


Really? The guy has lost more cases than I can count.


Is he in jail? Has he paid ludicrous fines? Are cases in appeal? Have many of the cases been overturned?
Anonymous
Post 11/09/2023 22:09     Subject: Re:"No Labels" Party

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Ugh, this is not the answer, but I can’t tell you that I wouldn’t vote for Romney-Manchin over Trump and Biden.
Anonymous
Post 11/09/2023 20:32     Subject: "No Labels" Party

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Anonymous wrote:How does this group splitting the GOP ticket have any impact on the Democrats? Stop trying to fool people with this non-sense. And stop with the Trump boogie man candidate. He will be lucky if he’s even allowed to run or have time to campaign. The GOP has no one and will lose by more with No Labels campaigning against them. This is good.

If the Dems lose, it’s of their own doing. Provided the President doesn’t have a major health crisis, he should win even with the VP hanging on. He could send troops to the Middle East, and he’d still win. (That would really splinter the party, but having both parties implode simultaneously in the presidential race would be a good way to rejuvenate this country.)


No Labels is funded by right wing money. If you think they will run a candidate to split the GOP vote, you are sorely mistaken.


Yet, we are told time and again on this board that Manchin is a closet Republican. No doubt he’d appeal to never Trump GOPer, independents and moderates of both parties.

If Biden will indeed the Democrat nominee, then why should Dems worry ESPECIALLY against Trump? If there is soooo much worry about a 3rd party — with or without a candidate — then maybe Biden isn’t a great nominee choice. I wish the Dems would have figured out a back up choice years ago. The hubris there is ridiculous. Of course, I am don’t believe Trump will be the GOP nominee.


You don’t think the guy who has been leading the GOP field by 30 points for the entire race is going to win it? What’s going to suddenly bring him down?


Legal issues.


They've been trying to get Trump on "legal" issues for 7 years and it hasn't worked. What makes you think it's going to work this time? At some point, you have to ask yourself "maybe the guy really didn't do anything at all and we are just watching lawfare play out?"


Really? The guy has lost more cases than I can count.
Anonymous
Post 11/09/2023 20:31     Subject: "No Labels" Party

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How does this group splitting the GOP ticket have any impact on the Democrats? Stop trying to fool people with this non-sense. And stop with the Trump boogie man candidate. He will be lucky if he’s even allowed to run or have time to campaign. The GOP has no one and will lose by more with No Labels campaigning against them. This is good.

If the Dems lose, it’s of their own doing. Provided the President doesn’t have a major health crisis, he should win even with the VP hanging on. He could send troops to the Middle East, and he’d still win. (That would really splinter the party, but having both parties implode simultaneously in the presidential race would be a good way to rejuvenate this country.)


No Labels is funded by right wing money. If you think they will run a candidate to split the GOP vote, you are sorely mistaken.


Yet, we are told time and again on this board that Manchin is a closet Republican. No doubt he’d appeal to never Trump GOPer, independents and moderates of both parties.

If Biden will indeed the Democrat nominee, then why should Dems worry ESPECIALLY against Trump? If there is soooo much worry about a 3rd party — with or without a candidate — then maybe Biden isn’t a great nominee choice. I wish the Dems would have figured out a back up choice years ago. The hubris there is ridiculous. Of course, I am don’t believe Trump will be the GOP nominee.


You don’t think the guy who has been leading the GOP field by 30 points for the entire race is going to win it? What’s going to suddenly bring him down?


Legal issues.


His base doesn’t care about those.
Anonymous
Post 11/09/2023 20:22     Subject: "No Labels" Party

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How does this group splitting the GOP ticket have any impact on the Democrats? Stop trying to fool people with this non-sense. And stop with the Trump boogie man candidate. He will be lucky if he’s even allowed to run or have time to campaign. The GOP has no one and will lose by more with No Labels campaigning against them. This is good.

If the Dems lose, it’s of their own doing. Provided the President doesn’t have a major health crisis, he should win even with the VP hanging on. He could send troops to the Middle East, and he’d still win. (That would really splinter the party, but having both parties implode simultaneously in the presidential race would be a good way to rejuvenate this country.)


No Labels is funded by right wing money. If you think they will run a candidate to split the GOP vote, you are sorely mistaken.


Yet, we are told time and again on this board that Manchin is a closet Republican. No doubt he’d appeal to never Trump GOPer, independents and moderates of both parties.

If Biden will indeed the Democrat nominee, then why should Dems worry ESPECIALLY against Trump? If there is soooo much worry about a 3rd party — with or without a candidate — then maybe Biden isn’t a great nominee choice. I wish the Dems would have figured out a back up choice years ago. The hubris there is ridiculous. Of course, I am don’t believe Trump will be the GOP nominee.


You don’t think the guy who has been leading the GOP field by 30 points for the entire race is going to win it? What’s going to suddenly bring him down?


Legal issues.


They've been trying to get Trump on "legal" issues for 7 years and it hasn't worked. What makes you think it's going to work this time? At some point, you have to ask yourself "maybe the guy really didn't do anything at all and we are just watching lawfare play out?"
Anonymous
Post 11/09/2023 20:17     Subject: "No Labels" Party

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How does this group splitting the GOP ticket have any impact on the Democrats? Stop trying to fool people with this non-sense. And stop with the Trump boogie man candidate. He will be lucky if he’s even allowed to run or have time to campaign. The GOP has no one and will lose by more with No Labels campaigning against them. This is good.

If the Dems lose, it’s of their own doing. Provided the President doesn’t have a major health crisis, he should win even with the VP hanging on. He could send troops to the Middle East, and he’d still win. (That would really splinter the party, but having both parties implode simultaneously in the presidential race would be a good way to rejuvenate this country.)


No Labels is funded by right wing money. If you think they will run a candidate to split the GOP vote, you are sorely mistaken.


Yet, we are told time and again on this board that Manchin is a closet Republican. No doubt he’d appeal to never Trump GOPer, independents and moderates of both parties.

If Biden will indeed the Democrat nominee, then why should Dems worry ESPECIALLY against Trump? If there is soooo much worry about a 3rd party — with or without a candidate — then maybe Biden isn’t a great nominee choice. I wish the Dems would have figured out a back up choice years ago. The hubris there is ridiculous. Of course, I am don’t believe Trump will be the GOP nominee.


You don’t think the guy who has been leading the GOP field by 30 points for the entire race is going to win it? What’s going to suddenly bring him down?


Legal issues.
Anonymous
Post 11/09/2023 19:35     Subject: "No Labels" Party

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How does this group splitting the GOP ticket have any impact on the Democrats? Stop trying to fool people with this non-sense. And stop with the Trump boogie man candidate. He will be lucky if he’s even allowed to run or have time to campaign. The GOP has no one and will lose by more with No Labels campaigning against them. This is good.

If the Dems lose, it’s of their own doing. Provided the President doesn’t have a major health crisis, he should win even with the VP hanging on. He could send troops to the Middle East, and he’d still win. (That would really splinter the party, but having both parties implode simultaneously in the presidential race would be a good way to rejuvenate this country.)


No Labels is funded by right wing money. If you think they will run a candidate to split the GOP vote, you are sorely mistaken.


Yet, we are told time and again on this board that Manchin is a closet Republican. No doubt he’d appeal to never Trump GOPer, independents and moderates of both parties.

If Biden will indeed the Democrat nominee, then why should Dems worry ESPECIALLY against Trump? If there is soooo much worry about a 3rd party — with or without a candidate — then maybe Biden isn’t a great nominee choice. I wish the Dems would have figured out a back up choice years ago. The hubris there is ridiculous. Of course, I am don’t believe Trump will be the GOP nominee.


You don’t think the guy who has been leading the GOP field by 30 points for the entire race is going to win it? What’s going to suddenly bring him down?
Anonymous
Post 11/09/2023 19:13     Subject: Re:"No Labels" Party

Anonymous
Post 11/09/2023 16:48     Subject: "No Labels" Party

^ Also, if I vote Biden, I’m going to be peeved if we get a President Harris. It would be the biggest, I told you so (that we could’ve had someone with executive experience like Whitmer).
Anonymous
Post 11/09/2023 16:44     Subject: "No Labels" Party

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How does this group splitting the GOP ticket have any impact on the Democrats? Stop trying to fool people with this non-sense. And stop with the Trump boogie man candidate. He will be lucky if he’s even allowed to run or have time to campaign. The GOP has no one and will lose by more with No Labels campaigning against them. This is good.

If the Dems lose, it’s of their own doing. Provided the President doesn’t have a major health crisis, he should win even with the VP hanging on. He could send troops to the Middle East, and he’d still win. (That would really splinter the party, but having both parties implode simultaneously in the presidential race would be a good way to rejuvenate this country.)


No Labels is funded by right wing money. If you think they will run a candidate to split the GOP vote, you are sorely mistaken.


Yet, we are told time and again on this board that Manchin is a closet Republican. No doubt he’d appeal to never Trump GOPer, independents and moderates of both parties.

If Biden will indeed the Democrat nominee, then why should Dems worry ESPECIALLY against Trump? If there is soooo much worry about a 3rd party — with or without a candidate — then maybe Biden isn’t a great nominee choice. I wish the Dems would have figured out a back up choice years ago. The hubris there is ridiculous. Of course, I am don’t believe Trump will be the GOP nominee.