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Anonymous wrote:Okay, I just went to YouTube and watched that flash forward scene of Kate's second wedding, slowed down to .25 speed, and I think it's Madison.

1. When Kevin is practicing his speech, we see a woman's toiletries on the bathroom sink, including a bottle of foundation makeup that looks about right for Madison. It is definitely not for dark skin, so we can rule out Zoe.

2. When Kevin goes to the closet to get his tuxedo jacket, there is a woman's dress or robe and a pink bra on the back of the chair. The bra looks about right for Madison. Sophie is several cup sizes larger than Madison, and this bra would be way too small for her. If the show creators were attentive to detail and the bra size was thoughtfully chosen, we can rule out Sophie.

3. When Kevin enters Kate's dressing room, Madison rushes up to him to kick him out and says, "I told you 12 times this morning, no boys allowed!" Twelve times, in the morning, seems like a lot for people not sharing a hotel room. Points to Madison.

4. With the speed slowed down, you can really see how closely Madison comes up to Kevin to push him back out the door. She has her hand up to push him, but she's almost chest-to-chest with him. If they are married to other people, it would be weirdly close. Points to Madison.

5. Also with the speed slowed down, you can get a longer look at how Madison looks at him while she telling him to get out. It's a pretty loving and intimate look for people who are not a couple. She's looking at him like they are sharing a couple's joke. It's kind of teasing or flirtatious. Points to Madison.

They have no attention to this level of detail. Seriously think that Jack could walk all the way to a park without a single person stopping to see why this small child was walking alone.

Remember that when Kate took a pregnancy test, it was actually an ovulation test? 😂

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Anonymous wrote:Little Jack is so cute! And a great actor!

No kidding! I kept watching to see if they were dubbing his lines or editing like crazy, because that was pretty incredible.

I wonder if the little actor's blindness had an impact on that. I could imagine that a vision impairment might heighten the kid's perception and emotional intelligence in a way that translates into better acting skill, even at that tiny age.

The actor is not actually blind.

Anonymous wrote:Okay, I just went to YouTube and watched that flash forward scene of Kate's second wedding, slowed down to .25 speed, and I think it's Madison.

1. When Kevin is practicing his speech, we see a woman's toiletries on the bathroom sink, including a bottle of foundation makeup that looks about right for Madison. It is definitely not for dark skin, so we can rule out Zoe.

2. When Kevin goes to the closet to get his tuxedo jacket, there is a woman's dress or robe and a pink bra on the back of the chair. The bra looks about right for Madison. Sophie is several cup sizes larger than Madison, and this bra would be way too small for her. If the show creators were attentive to detail and the bra size was thoughtfully chosen, we can rule out Sophie.

3. When Kevin enters Kate's dressing room, Madison rushes up to him to kick him out and says, "I told you 12 times this morning, no boys allowed!" Twelve times, in the morning, seems like a lot for people not sharing a hotel room. Points to Madison.

4. With the speed slowed down, you can really see how closely Madison comes up to Kevin to push him back out the door. She has her hand up to push him, but she's almost chest-to-chest with him. If they are married to other people, it would be weirdly close. Points to Madison.

5. Also with the speed slowed down, you can get a longer look at how Madison looks at him while she telling him to get out. It's a pretty loving and intimate look for people who are not a couple. She's looking at him like they are sharing a couple's joke. It's kind of teasing or flirtatious. Points to Madison.

They have no attention to this level of detail. Seriously think that Jack could walk all the way to a park without a single person stopping to see why this small child was walking alone.

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Anonymous wrote:From many episodes ago: Who was the girl on the horse?

TIA.

I vaguely recall that that was a plot line that had to be dropped when covid canceled everything.

The father in the scene is Dr. Eli Mason, Madison's OB/GYN (the girl is Sadie, his daughter). Eli was supposed to play a major part in Season 5, but it didn't work out that way.

Maybe that’s who they were originally going to have Madison date, and after COVID they had to recast. Seems weird otherwise that both are name Eli(jah).

Yes, makes sense! And he would have been a more interesting choice than current Eli, who seems so boyish and schlubby compared to Kevin. But Madison and Eli dorky shared interests are cute.

Aw, now I wanna see the “if Covid never happened” alternate This Is Us reality.

Actually, come to think of it, I wonder if some of my friends’ marriages would still be together in a if Covid never happened alternate reality.

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Anonymous wrote:From many episodes ago: Who was the girl on the horse?

TIA.

I vaguely recall that that was a plot line that had to be dropped when covid canceled everything.

The father in the scene is Dr. Eli Mason, Madison's OB/GYN (the girl is Sadie, his daughter). Eli was supposed to play a major part in Season 5, but it didn't work out that way.

Maybe that’s who they were originally going to have Madison date, and after COVID they had to recast. Seems weird otherwise that both are name Eli(jah).

Yes, makes sense! And he would have been a more interesting choice than current Eli, who seems so boyish and schlubby compared to Kevin. But Madison and Eli dorky shared interests are cute.

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Anonymous wrote:From many episodes ago: Who was the girl on the horse?

TIA.

I vaguely recall that that was a plot line that had to be dropped when covid canceled everything.

The father in the scene is Dr. Eli Mason, Madison's OB/GYN (the girl is Sadie, his daughter). Eli was supposed to play a major part in Season 5, but it didn't work out that way.

Maybe that’s who they were originally going to have Madison date, and after COVID they had to recast. Seems weird otherwise that both are name Eli(jah).

Anonymous wrote:Okay, I just went to YouTube and watched that flash forward scene of Kate's second wedding, slowed down to .25 speed, and I think it's Madison.

1. When Kevin is practicing his speech, we see a woman's toiletries on the bathroom sink, including a bottle of foundation makeup that looks about right for Madison. It is definitely not for dark skin, so we can rule out Zoe.

2. When Kevin goes to the closet to get his tuxedo jacket, there is a woman's dress or robe and a pink bra on the back of the chair. The bra looks about right for Madison. Sophie is several cup sizes larger than Madison, and this bra would be way too small for her. If the show creators were attentive to detail and the bra size was thoughtfully chosen, we can rule out Sophie.

3. When Kevin enters Kate's dressing room, Madison rushes up to him to kick him out and says, "I told you 12 times this morning, no boys allowed!" Twelve times, in the morning, seems like a lot for people not sharing a hotel room. Points to Madison.

4. With the speed slowed down, you can really see how closely Madison comes up to Kevin to push him back out the door. She has her hand up to push him, but she's almost chest-to-chest with him. If they are married to other people, it would be weirdly close. Points to Madison.

5. Also with the speed slowed down, you can get a longer look at how Madison looks at him while she telling him to get out. It's a pretty loving and intimate look for people who are not a couple. She's looking at him like they are sharing a couple's joke. It's kind of teasing or flirtatious. Points to Madison.

Give it up, it’s not Madison. When Randall asked Kevin if his answer about whether he loved Madison had changed, clear his answer was no. He is fond of Madison (all described in friendship terms not romantic ones) and feels bad his kids won’t have the tight nuclear family he did when little, but is not in love with her. Period, end of sentence. All your tiny observations are meaningless compared to that ( I mean foundation color and bra size, seriously?)

Sophie makes the most sense. The love Kevin was never ready for until he matured and understood what grownup love really means. Big grand romance, sure, but also steady day to day without incessant self-focus. Possibly someone totally new a la Nicky but I think it will be Sophie, a nurse who will help care for his mom at the end.

It's definitely blood on the shirt. The patches are red, and they're not there in the scenes before the incident.

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Anonymous wrote:From many episodes ago: Who was the girl on the horse?

TIA.

I vaguely recall that that was a plot line that had to be dropped when covid canceled everything.

The father in the scene is Dr. Eli Mason, Madison's OB/GYN (the girl is Sadie, his daughter). Eli was supposed to play a major part in Season 5, but it didn't work out that way.

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]What a tense episode! But the most devastating moment for me was Rebecca quietly asking Kevin to complete the forms because she couldn’t remember the information [/quote]


Also when it was clear Kate couldn’t run to the park, so Rebecca did.[/quote]

I don't think that moment was supposed to be a dig on Kate's weight. I think it was because no one was letting Rebecca do anything to help with the kids and she was getting frustrated. This was a moment where she was able to show that she could put the pieces together and still save the day despite her diagnosis. [/quote]

Definitely. But for some posters, everything comes back to Kate's weight, which is weird because not everything comes back to The One Thing about Keven or The One Thing about Randall[/quote]


Um, Rebecca told Kate where he was, and Rebecca hauled ass to get to him. Where was Kate?[/quote]

Yes, Kate didn’t even try to get to the park.

And wouldn’t you have a high lock on all doors going outside with a kid regardless of sight?[/quote]

The point of this was to show Rebecca's need/ability to contribute and to show (with the hospital forms) that having a good period doesn't mean the Alzheimer's has disappeared.

Toby runs up hills in San Francisco. Why couldn't he have lapped Rebecca on the way to the park? She probably had a couple of minute's lead on him, max (I am assuming Kate went to tell everyone that Rebecca was going to the park and she and Toby followed, hence the blood on Toby's shirt).

If it helps, I agree that Kate is extremely fat. FAT FAT FAT.[/quote]

I don’t think Toby had blood on his shirt, it’s just an ugly shirt with two big patches of yellow. Kate and Toby weren’t at the hospital until they put the stitches in, otherwise Rebecca would not have been filling out the paperwork.[/quote]

Good point. So where were they? I’m assuming Rebecca would’ve taken Jack back to the house, since he would’ve needed to be in a car seat going to the hospital. I don’t understand why Kate and Toby wouldn’t have driven him at that point. If anything, Rebecca would’ve been in the car with them. [/quote]

Kim thinking the couple that found him took them to the hospital or 911 was called.[/quote]

Except Rebecca found him at the park. So I’m not understanding what happened between then and the hospital, such that Rebecca and Kevin are the ones dealing with the paperwork.[/quote]


The sequence suggested both parents were in with Jack while he was getting stitches, while Rebecca and Kevin were trying to help handle the paperwork. Really not a point worth all this discussion.[/quote]

We're in "How many children had Lady MacBeth?" territory

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Anonymous wrote:I haven’t given up on Madison or Sophie for Kevin! Madison loves the guy but still in love with Kevin.

Agree! This show is full of red herrings. Case in point-- Weren't we led to believe that Jack's head injury/marriage-ending fight was from an accident with Toby's special green grill?

Could it have become part of the family mythology that Toby was so obsessed with grilling that he got careless about Jack's gate and/or that he was willing to spend a ton on a Green Egg but not on a plumber?

I don't think so. The grilling was totally backburnered by that point because of the plumbing emergency.

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Anonymous wrote:What a tense episode! But the most devastating moment for me was Rebecca quietly asking Kevin to complete the forms because she couldn’t remember the information

Also when it was clear Kate couldn’t run to the park, so Rebecca did.

I don't think that moment was supposed to be a dig on Kate's weight. I think it was because no one was letting Rebecca do anything to help with the kids and she was getting frustrated. This was a moment where she was able to show that she could put the pieces together and still save the day despite her diagnosis.

Definitely. But for some posters, everything comes back to Kate's weight, which is weird because not everything comes back to The One Thing about Keven or The One Thing about Randall

Um, Rebecca told Kate where he was, and Rebecca hauled ass to get to him. Where was Kate?

Yes, Kate didn’t even try to get to the park.

And wouldn’t you have a high lock on all doors going outside with a kid regardless of sight?

The point of this was to show Rebecca's need/ability to contribute and to show (with the hospital forms) that having a good period doesn't mean the Alzheimer's has disappeared.

Toby runs up hills in San Francisco. Why couldn't he have lapped Rebecca on the way to the park? She probably had a couple of minute's lead on him, max (I am assuming Kate went to tell everyone that Rebecca was going to the park and she and Toby followed, hence the blood on Toby's shirt).

If it helps, I agree that Kate is extremely fat. FAT FAT FAT.

I don’t think Toby had blood on his shirt, it’s just an ugly shirt with two big patches of yellow. Kate and Toby weren’t at the hospital until they put the stitches in, otherwise Rebecca would not have been filling out the paperwork.

I thought they looked like bloody patches, not the part of the fabric pattern.

Also, Rebecca is exactly who would be filling out the paperwork because the parents would in the room with Jack.

I thought it was blood too at first but later in the show there was no blood just two big ugly yellow leaves. So maybe there at first and then gone? But I think e would have changed shirts.

There’s no way Rebecca a) would be expected by Toby or Kate to be able to fill out the paperwork and b) she wouldn’t have the necessary insurance information. And she only gave Kev the forms, no insurance cards.

Anonymous wrote:From many episodes ago: Who was the girl on the horse?

TIA.

I vaguely recall that that was a plot line that had to be dropped when covid canceled everything.

From many episodes ago: Who was the girl on the horse?

TIA.

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Anonymous wrote:I haven’t given up on Madison or Sophie for Kevin! Madison loves the guy but still in love with Kevin.

Agree! This show is full of red herrings. Case in point-- Weren't we led to believe that Jack's head injury/marriage-ending fight was from an accident with Toby's special green grill?

Could it have become part of the family mythology that Toby was so obsessed with grilling that he got careless about Jack's gate and/or that he was willing to spend a ton on a Green Egg but not on a plumber?

I don't think so. The grilling was totally backburnered by that point because of the plumbing emergency.

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