Anonymous
09/28/2020 14:25
Subject: The BIG ONE: 20 years of Trump taxes obtained by NYTs
If you care more about how they were obtained, and less about what is in them, you're part of the problem.
He could easily put this to bed and make his returns public on his own. There is a reason he hasn't done this. And you all know it.
Even Richard Nixon released his returns after initially refusing. He refused b/c once he did, it showed problems. Same thing here.
He could easily put this to bed and make his returns public on his own. There is a reason he hasn't done this. And you all know it.
Even Richard Nixon released his returns after initially refusing. He refused b/c once he did, it showed problems. Same thing here.
Anonymous
09/28/2020 14:24
Subject: Re:The BIG ONE: 20 years of Trump taxes obtained by NYTs
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Sure it can be! They could have illegally obtained tax records and are lying about the content.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Unless he has done something illegal the only story here is 1. He has taken advantage of the tax codes 2. He may have to sell assets to cover his debt balloon payments and 3. His track record of business failures is continuing.
Lots of “something illegal” detailed in the article. You should read it.
The NYT doesn't have a good record. I guess Trump doesn't have to release his taxes since the NYT has them, lol!
Even Rachel M. showed his 2005 tax return which didn't back up any allegations. To her credit she actually showed the viewers the product.
Trump is on twitter saying it’s fake news and that the returns were illegally obtained. Can’t be both.
well, that would be easy to prove, he can just release his tax returns, like any president or candidate in the past few decades, easy peasy
Do you support the illegal obtaining by media of someone’s tax records?Do you support blackmail? The source is probably an IRS employee
Probably not IRS. The leak does not include 2018/2019 which an IRS employee would have. Also too easy for DOJ to find out by examining who had access and printed copies. Likely Cohen or someone else fired in 2018.
It’s likely NY State. States and IRS share data. NYTs doesn’t have the printed returns themselves, but have all the data from the form entry fields.
Mostly likely NYTs received an excel file with the data from a verified source in NY State government. And there’s not a damn thing the Fed’s can do about it
I doubt it is a state or federal source unless it is someone on an audit team plus I am sure the IRS has locked it down right. It sounds like they have more than just the tax transcripts. The story says they have “years of employee compensation information and records of cash payments between the president and his businesses, as well as information about ongoing federal audits of his taxes.“ That would be more than the IRS normally gets outside an audit. My guess is that it’s from a lender or someone else he sought financing from.
Or his current accounting firm or lawyers. NYT said it came from someone who was legally allowed to have them, so that probably excludes former lawyers, employees, etc.
Anonymous
09/28/2020 14:12
Subject: Re:The BIG ONE: 20 years of Trump taxes obtained by NYTs
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Sure it can be! They could have illegally obtained tax records and are lying about the content.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Unless he has done something illegal the only story here is 1. He has taken advantage of the tax codes 2. He may have to sell assets to cover his debt balloon payments and 3. His track record of business failures is continuing.
Lots of “something illegal” detailed in the article. You should read it.
The NYT doesn't have a good record. I guess Trump doesn't have to release his taxes since the NYT has them, lol!
Even Rachel M. showed his 2005 tax return which didn't back up any allegations. To her credit she actually showed the viewers the product.
Trump is on twitter saying it’s fake news and that the returns were illegally obtained. Can’t be both.
well, that would be easy to prove, he can just release his tax returns, like any president or candidate in the past few decades, easy peasy
Do you support the illegal obtaining by media of someone’s tax records?Do you support blackmail? The source is probably an IRS employee
Probably not IRS. The leak does not include 2018/2019 which an IRS employee would have. Also too easy for DOJ to find out by examining who had access and printed copies. Likely Cohen or someone else fired in 2018.
It’s likely NY State. States and IRS share data. NYTs doesn’t have the printed returns themselves, but have all the data from the form entry fields.
Mostly likely NYTs received an excel file with the data from a verified source in NY State government. And there’s not a damn thing the Fed’s can do about it
I doubt it is a state or federal source unless it is someone on an audit team plus I am sure the IRS has locked it down right. It sounds like they have more than just the tax transcripts. The story says they have “years of employee compensation information and records of cash payments between the president and his businesses, as well as information about ongoing federal audits of his taxes.“ That would be more than the IRS normally gets outside an audit. My guess is that it’s from a lender or someone else he sought financing from.
Anonymous
09/28/2020 14:10
Subject: The BIG ONE: 20 years of Trump taxes obtained by NYTs
Anonymous wrote:Evading taxes overseas to own the libs, or something.
https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/question-how-donald-trumps-scottish-resorts-are-financed-just-became-even-more-urgent-2985977
Owning the libs through tax evasion and fleecing gullibles.
MAGA, I guess.
Anonymous
09/28/2020 14:04
Subject: The BIG ONE: 20 years of Trump taxes obtained by NYTs
Evading taxes overseas to own the libs, or something.
https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/question-how-donald-trumps-scottish-resorts-are-financed-just-became-even-more-urgent-2985977
https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/question-how-donald-trumps-scottish-resorts-are-financed-just-became-even-more-urgent-2985977
Anonymous
09/28/2020 14:00
Subject: The BIG ONE: 20 years of Trump taxes obtained by NYTs
Anonymous wrote:I don't care. MAGA.
Of course you don't. Fraud is not a real crime. And there's nothing wrong with being terrible at business.
Anonymous
09/28/2020 13:58
Subject: The BIG ONE: 20 years of Trump taxes obtained by NYTs
Anonymous wrote:I don't care. MAGA.
You're right. Nobody I'm MAGAland cares.
Anonymous
09/28/2020 13:52
Subject: The BIG ONE: 20 years of Trump taxes obtained by NYTs
I don't care. MAGA.
Anonymous
09/28/2020 13:48
Subject: Re:The BIG ONE: 20 years of Trump taxes obtained by NYTs
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Sure it can be! They could have illegally obtained tax records and are lying about the content.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Unless he has done something illegal the only story here is 1. He has taken advantage of the tax codes 2. He may have to sell assets to cover his debt balloon payments and 3. His track record of business failures is continuing.
Lots of “something illegal” detailed in the article. You should read it.
The NYT doesn't have a good record. I guess Trump doesn't have to release his taxes since the NYT has them, lol!
Even Rachel M. showed his 2005 tax return which didn't back up any allegations. To her credit she actually showed the viewers the product.
Trump is on twitter saying it’s fake news and that the returns were illegally obtained. Can’t be both.
If the numbers are wrong then why would Trump worry someone has his returns?
Math
Because it’s really bad if newspapers can get someone’s tax returns, not actually publish them, and then claim whatever they want?
That's the entire point!
They do this with both candidates every election.
No they don’t.
They certainly DO NOT. Candidates have voluntarily released their returns for the last 40 years. Only Trump is “special.”
Anonymous
09/28/2020 13:48
Subject: Re:The BIG ONE: 20 years of Trump taxes obtained by NYTs
Do you support the illegal obtaining by media of someone’s tax records?
Yes, yes, nothing to see here. Just move along. Trump is not completely broke and facing $400 million to $1 billion in debts to foreign creditors coming due soon. It is in no way a national security threat. Move along!
Anonymous
09/28/2020 13:46
Subject: Re:The BIG ONE: 20 years of Trump taxes obtained by NYTs
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Sure it can be! They could have illegally obtained tax records and are lying about the content.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Unless he has done something illegal the only story here is 1. He has taken advantage of the tax codes 2. He may have to sell assets to cover his debt balloon payments and 3. His track record of business failures is continuing.
Lots of “something illegal” detailed in the article. You should read it.
The NYT doesn't have a good record. I guess Trump doesn't have to release his taxes since the NYT has them, lol!
Even Rachel M. showed his 2005 tax return which didn't back up any allegations. To her credit she actually showed the viewers the product.
Trump is on twitter saying it’s fake news and that the returns were illegally obtained. Can’t be both.
If the numbers are wrong then why would Trump worry someone has his returns?
Because it’s really bad if newspapers can get someone’s tax returns, not actually publish them, and then claim whatever they want?
That's the entire point!
They do this with both candidates every election.
No they don’t.
Anonymous
09/28/2020 13:40
Subject: Re:The BIG ONE: 20 years of Trump taxes obtained by NYTs
Do you support the illegal obtaining by media of someone’s tax records?
What, it couldn’t have happened to a nicer guy?
Anonymous
09/28/2020 13:36
Subject: Re:The BIG ONE: 20 years of Trump taxes obtained by NYTs
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Sure it can be! They could have illegally obtained tax records and are lying about the content.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Unless he has done something illegal the only story here is 1. He has taken advantage of the tax codes 2. He may have to sell assets to cover his debt balloon payments and 3. His track record of business failures is continuing.
Lots of “something illegal” detailed in the article. You should read it.
The NYT doesn't have a good record. I guess Trump doesn't have to release his taxes since the NYT has them, lol!
Even Rachel M. showed his 2005 tax return which didn't back up any allegations. To her credit she actually showed the viewers the product.
Trump is on twitter saying it’s fake news and that the returns were illegally obtained. Can’t be both.
well, that would be easy to prove, he can just release his tax returns, like any president or candidate in the past few decades, easy peasy
Do you support the illegal obtaining by media of someone’s tax records?Do you support blackmail? The source is probably an IRS employee
Probably not IRS. The leak does not include 2018/2019 which an IRS employee would have. Also too easy for DOJ to find out by examining who had access and printed copies. Likely Cohen or someone else fired in 2018.
It’s likely NY State. States and IRS share data. NYTs doesn’t have the printed returns themselves, but have all the data from the form entry fields.
Mostly likely NYTs received an excel file with the data from a verified source in NY State government. And there’s not a damn thing the Fed’s can do about it
Anonymous
09/28/2020 13:30
Subject: Re:The BIG ONE: 20 years of Trump taxes obtained by NYTs
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Sure it can be! They could have illegally obtained tax records and are lying about the content.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Unless he has done something illegal the only story here is 1. He has taken advantage of the tax codes 2. He may have to sell assets to cover his debt balloon payments and 3. His track record of business failures is continuing.
Lots of “something illegal” detailed in the article. You should read it.
The NYT doesn't have a good record. I guess Trump doesn't have to release his taxes since the NYT has them, lol!
Even Rachel M. showed his 2005 tax return which didn't back up any allegations. To her credit she actually showed the viewers the product.
Trump is on twitter saying it’s fake news and that the returns were illegally obtained. Can’t be both.
If the numbers are wrong then why would Trump worry someone has his returns?
Because it’s really bad if newspapers can get someone’s tax returns, not actually publish them, and then claim whatever they want?
That's the entire point!
They do this with both candidates every election.
Well most candidates publish their own tax returns. If the press lies, the candidates can point to the facts. Trump is free to do the same and show everyone all the income taxes he pays.
Anonymous
09/28/2020 13:30
Subject: Re:The BIG ONE: 20 years of Trump taxes obtained by NYTs
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Sure it can be! They could have illegally obtained tax records and are lying about the content.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Unless he has done something illegal the only story here is 1. He has taken advantage of the tax codes 2. He may have to sell assets to cover his debt balloon payments and 3. His track record of business failures is continuing.
Lots of “something illegal” detailed in the article. You should read it.
The NYT doesn't have a good record. I guess Trump doesn't have to release his taxes since the NYT has them, lol!
Even Rachel M. showed his 2005 tax return which didn't back up any allegations. To her credit she actually showed the viewers the product.
Trump is on twitter saying it’s fake news and that the returns were illegally obtained. Can’t be both.
If the numbers are wrong then why would Trump worry someone has his returns?
Because it’s really bad if newspapers can get someone’s tax returns, not actually publish them, and then claim whatever they want?
It's also bad if the President can claim whatever he wants and 60 million just nod their heads.