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Anonymous wrote:Many DH and MM kids would remain walkers even if they get moved.

At its nearest point to Swanson, DH is .3mi. At its nearest point to Kenmore it is 1.0mi. At its furthest point to Swanson it is .8mi. It’s furthest point to Kenmore is 2.3mi. Definitely will turn lots of walkers into bus riders. I haven’t done the math on the distances that would be involved for the kids currently in Jefferson or Kenmore walk zones who would become bus riders. Driving all these kids through each others’ neighborhoods is plain silly.

There are no new PU's from the Kenmore or Jefferson walk zones who are going to be bused to Swanson. There are some PU's that are probably closer to Jefferson than they are to Swanson but THAT IS NOT NEW. Buckingham has been zoned to Swanson for a very long time.

I get it, you want all the fr/l ELL students out of Swanson and back "where they belong," because you paid good money for your segregation and all.

And you don't need to "do the math." Staff put out the numbers, and none of the scenarios they want feedback on increase the number of bus riders. Try to keep up.

FFS, stop throwing the race card. Families want their kids to walk to the school in their neighborhood. This is not complicated, nor is it some secret racist code.

Then stop bringing up scenarios that aren't actually on the table, and stop talking about PU's that already belong to Swanson as if they don't. Are those families asking to be moved?

And of course this is about race; whether you want to see it or not is another question.

Anonymous wrote:I would bet the plan is already wired to screw over the Swanson walkers. They just aren't rich enough for the SB to care. That said, I hope that the Swanson walkers win and get to walk to their neighborhood school, and that the S Arlington contingent so intent on screwing those middle class kids, rather than advocating for kids from other neighborhoods already in buses to go to Kenmore, get absolutely nothing.

Seriously???? - people MM and DH who live in 700, 800, 900k+ houses are only middle class? Everyone here needs a reality check. Move along to Kenmore and be done with this.

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Anonymous wrote:Many DH and MM kids would remain walkers even if they get moved.

At its nearest point to Swanson, DH is .3mi. At its nearest point to Kenmore it is 1.0mi. At its furthest point to Swanson it is .8mi. It’s furthest point to Kenmore is 2.3mi. Definitely will turn lots of walkers into bus riders. I haven’t done the math on the distances that would be involved for the kids currently in Jefferson or Kenmore walk zones who would become bus riders. Driving all these kids through each others’ neighborhoods is plain silly.

There are no new PU's from the Kenmore or Jefferson walk zones who are going to be bused to Swanson. There are some PU's that are probably closer to Jefferson than they are to Swanson but THAT IS NOT NEW. Buckingham has been zoned to Swanson for a very long time.

I get it, you want all the fr/l ELL students out of Swanson and back "where they belong," because you paid good money for your segregation and all.

And you don't need to "do the math." Staff put out the numbers, and none of the scenarios they want feedback on increase the number of bus riders. Try to keep up.

FFS, stop throwing the race card. Families want their kids to walk to the school in their neighborhood. This is not complicated, nor is it some secret racist code.

I would bet the plan is already wired to screw over the Swanson walkers. They just aren't rich enough for the SB to care. That said, I hope that the Swanson walkers win and get to walk to their neighborhood school, and that the S Arlington contingent so intent on screwing those middle class kids, rather than advocating for kids from other neighborhoods already in buses to go to Kenmore, get absolutely nothing.

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Anonymous wrote:Many DH and MM kids would remain walkers even if they get moved.

At its nearest point to Swanson, DH is .3mi. At its nearest point to Kenmore it is 1.0mi. At its furthest point to Swanson it is .8mi. It’s furthest point to Kenmore is 2.3mi. Definitely will turn lots of walkers into bus riders. I haven’t done the math on the distances that would be involved for the kids currently in Jefferson or Kenmore walk zones who would become bus riders. Driving all these kids through each others’ neighborhoods is plain silly.

There are no new PU's from the Kenmore or Jefferson walk zones who are going to be bused to Swanson. There are some PU's that are probably closer to Jefferson than they are to Swanson but THAT IS NOT NEW. Buckingham has been zoned to Swanson for a very long time.

I get it, you want all the fr/l ELL students out of Swanson and back "where they belong," because you paid good money for your segregation and all.

And you don't need to "do the math." Staff put out the numbers, and none of the scenarios they want feedback on increase the number of bus riders. Try to keep up.

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Anonymous wrote:Many DH and MM kids would remain walkers even if they get moved.

At its nearest point to Swanson, DH is .3mi. At its nearest point to Kenmore it is 1.0mi. At its furthest point to Swanson it is .8mi. It’s furthest point to Kenmore is 2.3mi. Definitely will turn lots of walkers into bus riders. I haven’t done the math on the distances that would be involved for the kids currently in Jefferson or Kenmore walk zones who would become bus riders. Driving all these kids through each others’ neighborhoods is plain silly.

What about all of the East Falls Church kids below 66 that have to cross Sycamore street to get to Swanson? By giving them a heated bus Kenmore they can easily pick up the MM and DH kids that would need a bus. Today they have to cross a busy street known for Panhandlers, go near a metro station with elevated crime levels and deal with high traffic.

Anonymous wrote:Many DH and MM kids would remain walkers even if they get moved.

At its nearest point to Swanson, DH is .3mi. At its nearest point to Kenmore it is 1.0mi. At its furthest point to Swanson it is .8mi. It’s furthest point to Kenmore is 2.3mi. Definitely will turn lots of walkers into bus riders. I haven’t done the math on the distances that would be involved for the kids currently in Jefferson or Kenmore walk zones who would become bus riders. Driving all these kids through each others’ neighborhoods is plain silly.

Anonymous wrote:Many DH and MM kids would remain walkers even if they get moved.

Demonstrably untrue.

Many DH and MM kids would remain walkers even if they get moved.

^^^ the good people of Aurora highlands and Arlington ridge will happily trade mortgages.

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Anonymous wrote:Isn't this a blue county? Didn't we vote for 'hope' and 'change' a few years ago? Let's use this boundary change to make all the middle schools great.

Don’t kid yourself. It won’t. Even if these planning units move, Kenmore will still be over 40% FARMS and Williamsburg will be less than 10%. If Arlington really believes what you are spouting, everyone would be on a bus and it would be total desegregation. The moment a kid from Country Club Hills is at Kenmore or a kid from Donaldson Run is at Wakefield, the. I’ll believe that APS is really about demographic diversity. Otherwise, it’s all lip service, sacrificing the good of a group of kids so that everyone else can feel better about themselves.

I’d be really pleased to see Kenmore around 40% FARMs. That would be a meaningful impact to the make up of that school. Ideally we’d have schools that reflected the student make up of the entire county, but I would consider 40% a step in the right direction.
I fully anticipate the SB will chicken out and placate the “walkers”. Perhaps there will be some sort of hybrid option that keeps Kenmore’s farms number from rising ( as was projected in some of the presented options) and they will consider that a win, which is ridiculous.

I love how you put walkers in quotes, as if it's not the truth. Have some balls and bus in the rich people who are already on busses to Swanson and Stratford and send them to Kenmore instead. But no, instead you target actual walkers to Swanson because they are middle class and easier targets. Cowardly, unecomical, and unfair.

I don’t care who they send. Honestly I don’t. The walkers in these scenarios ( they aren’t up anymore, right?) were closer to Kenmore than bus riders from elsewhere. There have been plenty of strident voices on this thread bemoaning the amount of time kids spend on the bus. Seems like the DH and MM kids wouldn’t be spending as long on the bus as say, Lyon Park kids. If that’s incorrrect, please write to the SB. I’m looking for meaningful solutions that might actually be implemented. It seems unlikely that they will ship kids from Country Club Hills to Kenmore. If I thought it would be a possibility I would certainly advocate for it. I have no problem with my own neighborhood being redirected to Kenmore, if it has a meaningful impact on demographics. The school system has an obligation to not concentrate poverty. Perhaps this is a good exercise in empathy for some of you. I’ve read on more than one post how people scrimped and saved to move to DH and MM. Don’t you think families in South Arlington have done the same? Do they not have a say in the quality of their children’s education?

You’re right! Let’s trade schools and mortgage payments.

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Anonymous wrote:Isn't this a blue county? Didn't we vote for 'hope' and 'change' a few years ago? Let's use this boundary change to make all the middle schools great.

Don’t kid yourself. It won’t. Even if these planning units move, Kenmore will still be over 40% FARMS and Williamsburg will be less than 10%. If Arlington really believes what you are spouting, everyone would be on a bus and it would be total desegregation. The moment a kid from Country Club Hills is at Kenmore or a kid from Donaldson Run is at Wakefield, the. I’ll believe that APS is really about demographic diversity. Otherwise, it’s all lip service, sacrificing the good of a group of kids so that everyone else can feel better about themselves.

I’d be really pleased to see Kenmore around 40% FARMs. That would be a meaningful impact to the make up of that school. Ideally we’d have schools that reflected the student make up of the entire county, but I would consider 40% a step in the right direction.
I fully anticipate the SB will chicken out and placate the “walkers”. Perhaps there will be some sort of hybrid option that keeps Kenmore’s farms number from rising ( as was projected in some of the presented options) and they will consider that a win, which is ridiculous.

I love how you put walkers in quotes, as if it's not the truth. Have some balls and bus in the rich people who are already on busses to Swanson and Stratford and send them to Kenmore instead. But no, instead you target actual walkers to Swanson because they are middle class and easier targets. Cowardly, unecomical, and unfair.

I don’t care who they send. Honestly I don’t. The walkers in these scenarios ( they aren’t up anymore, right?) were closer to Kenmore than bus riders from elsewhere. There have been plenty of strident voices on this thread bemoaning the amount of time kids spend on the bus. Seems like the DH and MM kids wouldn’t be spending as long on the bus as say, Lyon Park kids. If that’s incorrrect, please write to the SB. I’m looking for meaningful solutions that might actually be implemented. It seems unlikely that they will ship kids from Country Club Hills to Kenmore. If I thought it would be a possibility I would certainly advocate for it. I have no problem with my own neighborhood being redirected to Kenmore, if it has a meaningful impact on demographics. The school system has an obligation to not concentrate poverty. Perhaps this is a good exercise in empathy for some of you. I’ve read on more than one post how people scrimped and saved to move to DH and MM. Don’t you think families in South Arlington have done the same? Do they not have a say in the quality of their children’s education?

The SB is not supposed to override where people choose to live. Farms should stay with Farms. You chose to live in SA, now reap the benefits of that.

Troll, you really are such an insecure person. I hope you aren't actually raising children in this county, or anywhere, not until you grow up.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Isn't this a blue county? Didn't we vote for 'hope' and 'change' a few years ago? Let's use this boundary change to make all the middle schools great.

Don’t kid yourself. It won’t. Even if these planning units move, Kenmore will still be over 40% FARMS and Williamsburg will be less than 10%. If Arlington really believes what you are spouting, everyone would be on a bus and it would be total desegregation. The moment a kid from Country Club Hills is at Kenmore or a kid from Donaldson Run is at Wakefield, the. I’ll believe that APS is really about demographic diversity. Otherwise, it’s all lip service, sacrificing the good of a group of kids so that everyone else can feel better about themselves.

I’d be really pleased to see Kenmore around 40% FARMs. That would be a meaningful impact to the make up of that school. Ideally we’d have schools that reflected the student make up of the entire county, but I would consider 40% a step in the right direction.
I fully anticipate the SB will chicken out and placate the “walkers”. Perhaps there will be some sort of hybrid option that keeps Kenmore’s farms number from rising ( as was projected in some of the presented options) and they will consider that a win, which is ridiculous.

I love how you put walkers in quotes, as if it's not the truth. Have some balls and bus in the rich people who are already on busses to Swanson and Stratford and send them to Kenmore instead. But no, instead you target actual walkers to Swanson because they are middle class and easier targets. Cowardly, unecomical, and unfair.

I don’t care who they send. Honestly I don’t. The walkers in these scenarios ( they aren’t up anymore, right?) were closer to Kenmore than bus riders from elsewhere. There have been plenty of strident voices on this thread bemoaning the amount of time kids spend on the bus. Seems like the DH and MM kids wouldn’t be spending as long on the bus as say, Lyon Park kids. If that’s incorrrect, please write to the SB. I’m looking for meaningful solutions that might actually be implemented. It seems unlikely that they will ship kids from Country Club Hills to Kenmore. If I thought it would be a possibility I would certainly advocate for it. I have no problem with my own neighborhood being redirected to Kenmore, if it has a meaningful impact on demographics. The school system has an obligation to not concentrate poverty. Perhaps this is a good exercise in empathy for some of you. I’ve read on more than one post how people scrimped and saved to move to DH and MM. Don’t you think families in South Arlington have done the same? Do they not have a say in the quality of their children’s education?

The SB is not supposed to override where people choose to live. Farms should stay with Farms. You chose to live in SA, now reap the benefits of that.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Isn't this a blue county? Didn't we vote for 'hope' and 'change' a few years ago? Let's use this boundary change to make all the middle schools great.

Don’t kid yourself. It won’t. Even if these planning units move, Kenmore will still be over 40% FARMS and Williamsburg will be less than 10%. If Arlington really believes what you are spouting, everyone would be on a bus and it would be total desegregation. The moment a kid from Country Club Hills is at Kenmore or a kid from Donaldson Run is at Wakefield, the. I’ll believe that APS is really about demographic diversity. Otherwise, it’s all lip service, sacrificing the good of a group of kids so that everyone else can feel better about themselves.

I’d be really pleased to see Kenmore around 40% FARMs. That would be a meaningful impact to the make up of that school. Ideally we’d have schools that reflected the student make up of the entire county, but I would consider 40% a step in the right direction.
I fully anticipate the SB will chicken out and placate the “walkers”. Perhaps there will be some sort of hybrid option that keeps Kenmore’s farms number from rising ( as was projected in some of the presented options) and they will consider that a win, which is ridiculous.

I love how you put walkers in quotes, as if it's not the truth. Have some balls and bus in the rich people who are already on busses to Swanson and Stratford and send them to Kenmore instead. But no, instead you target actual walkers to Swanson because they are middle class and easier targets. Cowardly, unecomical, and unfair.

I don’t care who they send. Honestly I don’t. The walkers in these scenarios ( they aren’t up anymore, right?) were closer to Kenmore than bus riders from elsewhere. There have been plenty of strident voices on this thread bemoaning the amount of time kids spend on the bus. Seems like the DH and MM kids wouldn’t be spending as long on the bus as say, Lyon Park kids. If that’s incorrrect, please write to the SB. I’m looking for meaningful solutions that might actually be implemented. It seems unlikely that they will ship kids from Country Club Hills to Kenmore. If I thought it would be a possibility I would certainly advocate for it. I have no problem with my own neighborhood being redirected to Kenmore, if it has a meaningful impact on demographics. The school system has an obligation to not concentrate poverty. Perhaps this is a good exercise in empathy for some of you. I’ve read on more than one post how people scrimped and saved to move to DH and MM. Don’t you think families in South Arlington have done the same? Do they not have a say in the quality of their children’s education?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Isn't this a blue county? Didn't we vote for 'hope' and 'change' a few years ago? Let's use this boundary change to make all the middle schools great.

Don’t kid yourself. It won’t. Even if these planning units move, Kenmore will still be over 40% FARMS and Williamsburg will be less than 10%. If Arlington really believes what you are spouting, everyone would be on a bus and it would be total desegregation. The moment a kid from Country Club Hills is at Kenmore or a kid from Donaldson Run is at Wakefield, the. I’ll believe that APS is really about demographic diversity. Otherwise, it’s all lip service, sacrificing the good of a group of kids so that everyone else can feel better about themselves.

I’d be really pleased to see Kenmore around 40% FARMs. That would be a meaningful impact to the make up of that school. Ideally we’d have schools that reflected the student make up of the entire county, but I would consider 40% a step in the right direction.
I fully anticipate the SB will chicken out and placate the “walkers”. Perhaps there will be some sort of hybrid option that keeps Kenmore’s farms number from rising ( as was projected in some of the presented options) and they will consider that a win, which is ridiculous.

I love how you put walkers in quotes, as if it's not the truth. Have some balls and bus in the rich people who are already on busses to Swanson and Stratford and send them to Kenmore instead. But no, instead you target actual walkers to Swanson because they are middle class and easier targets. Cowardly, unecomical, and unfair.

+100
These neighborhoods are absolutely walkers bc they are so close to Swanson. If you're y are busing others already, just change the routes.