Anonymous
Post 01/13/2017 09:11     Subject: Russians Compromising Trump

Anonymous wrote:No, the fact that Steele is "in hiding" proves he is most likely a Madoff-level scammer. Dropping off the grid renders Steele much more vulnerable to an actual threat to his safety from the Russians. Whereas staying very noticeable and public, "hiding in plain sight," so to speak, would provide him with much more protection. If Putin had him assassinated now, no one would know. Because he's gone already.

It's like if you think someone is following you to do you harm, you don't go into a dark deserted alley, you try to find some place with lots of light and lots of people.

So, no, no legitimate intelligence operate or ex operative practicing "tradecraft" would choose this moment to disappear if his concern was his personal safety. He would do the opposite: be as public and noticeable as possible. He would go on the news media shows and very publicly give interviews stating that he fears for his safety and if anything happens to him, Putin was the one who ordered the hit. Even if it looks like an accident (brakes failed or something).

On the other hand, financial scammers and con artists are the types who pull these kind of disappearing acts, and they do it all the time.

Steele was very useful to the intelligence agencies and media outlets who are now claiming he was a "reliable source" because he provided them all with easy plausible deniability. Steele could just sit down at his word processor and make up any old shit. If he had a bit of a conscience he might call one of his old cronies back in Russia and say "Hey man I need a source for some shit I am going to make up for a client. So I need you to make up some thing lurid about Trump. When I get paid I will give you 10%."

Or maybe Steele didn't even do that with this Trump nonsense. Maybe he just completely made the whole thing up. Wouldn't have been a problem except Trump got elected and somehow the thing got leaked to the point where it blew up on Steele. He can't back up anything, he knows how litigious Trump is, and he needs to hide to avoid the process servers that he knows are coming his way.

Also he probably committed any number of federal crimes in fabricating this stuff--mail fraud, wire fraud, and I'm sure there's a few other felonies in there too.

So that's why he vanished. Just like every other scammer who's about to be exposed as a scammer.


This is the highest quality comment on this thread in quite a few pages. High quality isn't the same as correct, but I think all the armchair quarterbacks should read and re-read this a few times, to understand that these ideas are among the better informed and better thought out here. None of this is a sure thing, but definitely keep the above in mind.

A few further thoughts. Troublesome U.S. politicos show up dead in things like small plane crashes in remote areas, not getting shot on Capitol Hill. One of 20th C America's most reviled men, a man complicit in the deaths of many thousands, for decades walked the streets of downtown DC daily, his distinctive gait visible from at least a block away! He was always doing the opposite of hiding, he was surrounding himself with witnesses and potential collateral damage.
Anonymous
Post 01/13/2017 09:03     Subject: Russians Compromising Trump

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He had another twitter tantrum today: he protests too much.


Maybe his cybersecurity czar can install parental controls on his internet. They need him on lockdown until his staff is awake and can deal with him.


Rudy still uses Hotmail.
Anonymous
Post 01/13/2017 09:02     Subject: Re:Russians Compromising Trump

If someone stated that there was a tape that showed Trump saying how he liked to grab women's pu$$ys, Trump would call it lies, never happened, he greatly respects women.... oh wait a minute!
Anonymous
Post 01/13/2017 08:58     Subject: Russians Compromising Trump

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:^the earth is also flat right?


Good point, PP.

Oh by the way--I have an unverified report on you that you like golden showers. Unverified doesn't mean "false" so it must be true.

PP, why do you like golden showers?


I don't care if you say it.

I would probably care if US INTELLIGENCE said it.
Mine statement has weight. The other doesn't.


But US intelligence didn't say that..so now you're just gorrsly misinformed. Can't tell it it's because of you lack of intelligence or you're willfully misinformed due to your hatred of Trump.


No, the pp is correct. They backed an unverified report. You backed an unverified report. The intelligence community has credibility. For all we know, you are some 400 lb guy in a basement.

You should not call people unintelligent if you are unable to follow a simple conversation logically.
Anonymous
Post 01/13/2017 08:57     Subject: Russians Compromising Trump

Anonymous wrote:

Hi may be incapable of shame. But if the allegations are found to be true, he has just demonstrated that he is a EUWWGE liar. Because he stood up at his press conference and denied it.

I don't think even conservatives would want a proven lying liar. Would they? Wouldn't they rather go to the VP or even to Paul Ryan?



Because he has been so truthful over the past 24 months, much less the last 60 years.
Anonymous
Post 01/13/2017 08:55     Subject: Russians Compromising Trump

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yep. The leverage is why it is relevant.

But salacious material only provides leverage if you can use it to embarrass the target. Trump is incapable of shame.


Hi may be incapable of shame. But if the allegations are found to be true, he has just demonstrated that he is a EUWWGE liar. Because he stood up at his press conference and denied it.

I don't think even conservatives would want a proven lying liar. Would they? Wouldn't they rather go to the VP or even to Paul Ryan?

Anonymous
Post 01/13/2017 08:48     Subject: Russians Compromising Trump

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:^the earth is also flat right?


Good point, PP.

Oh by the way--I have an unverified report on you that you like golden showers. Unverified doesn't mean "false" so it must be true.

PP, why do you like golden showers?


I don't care if you say it.

I would probably care if US INTELLIGENCE said it.
Mine statement has weight. The other doesn't.


But US intelligence didn't say that..so now you're just gorrsly misinformed. Can't tell it it's because of you lack of intelligence or you're willfully misinformed due to your hatred of Trump.


You have got to be shitting me. Us intelligence briefed trump and Obama that they had this intel. Yes they did say it even if they also said it was unverified.
Anonymous
Post 01/13/2017 08:45     Subject: Russians Compromising Trump

Anonymous wrote:He had another twitter tantrum today: he protests too much.


Maybe his cybersecurity czar can install parental controls on his internet. They need him on lockdown until his staff is awake and can deal with him.
Anonymous
Post 01/13/2017 08:44     Subject: Russians Compromising Trump

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:^the earth is also flat right?


Good point, PP.

Oh by the way--I have an unverified report on you that you like golden showers. Unverified doesn't mean "false" so it must be true.

PP, why do you like golden showers?


I don't care if you say it.

I would probably care if US INTELLIGENCE said it.
Mine statement has weight. The other doesn't.


But US intelligence didn't say that..so now you're just gorrsly misinformed. Can't tell it it's because of you lack of intelligence or you're willfully misinformed due to your hatred of Trump.
Anonymous
Post 01/13/2017 08:43     Subject: Russians Compromising Trump

Anonymous wrote:He had another twitter tantrum today: he protests too much.


Holee shit he has no self control.
Anonymous
Post 01/13/2017 08:42     Subject: Russians Compromising Trump

Anonymous wrote:He had another twitter tantrum today: he protests too much.


Attack US intelligence!

Great way to start things off.
Anonymous
Post 01/13/2017 08:40     Subject: Russians Compromising Trump

He had another twitter tantrum today: he protests too much.
Anonymous
Post 01/13/2017 08:08     Subject: Russians Compromising Trump

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wow, the Trumpsters are really nervous about this dossier! I don't think there's much in there on Trump's personal life, but following the money will be what brings him down.

The golden showers rumors will just taint Trump forever.


No they won't. How long did the pussy-grabbing video have any impact? A week or two, tops?

You see as the left keeps throwing various forms of monkey feces at Trump, the impact wears off. There's no novelty left at all with this stuff. The hookers/Golden Showers story is so over the top that Trump has now been almost entirely insulated from the negative impact of any future lies that the left can throw at him.

And unfortunately, now the left is like the boy who cried wolf. If you guys ever actually get anything real on Trump no one will listen because you've been shouting lies for way too long at way too high of a volume.


It's a good theory, but the report was commissioner by Jeb Bush. But ya, it's all the left crying wolf.

Just like Trump cried wolf about Obama being born in Kenya.


I wouldn't bring up feces throwing. There is rumor of a second sex tape.
Anonymous
Post 01/13/2017 08:05     Subject: Russians Compromising Trump

Anonymous wrote:No, the fact that Steele is "in hiding" proves he is most likely a Madoff-level scammer. Dropping off the grid renders Steele much more vulnerable to an actual threat to his safety from the Russians. Whereas staying very noticeable and public, "hiding in plain sight," so to speak, would provide him with much more protection. If Putin had him assassinated now, no one would know. Because he's gone already.

It's like if you think someone is following you to do you harm, you don't go into a dark deserted alley, you try to find some place with lots of light and lots of people.

So, no, no legitimate intelligence operate or ex operative practicing "tradecraft" would choose this moment to disappear if his concern was his personal safety. He would do the opposite: be as public and noticeable as possible. He would go on the news media shows and very publicly give interviews stating that he fears for his safety and if anything happens to him, Putin was the one who ordered the hit. Even if it looks like an accident (brakes failed or something).

On the other hand, financial scammers and con artists are the types who pull these kind of disappearing acts, and they do it all the time.

Steele was very useful to the intelligence agencies and media outlets who are now claiming he was a "reliable source" because he provided them all with easy plausible deniability. Steele could just sit down at his word processor and make up any old shit. If he had a bit of a conscience he might call one of his old cronies back in Russia and say "Hey man I need a source for some shit I am going to make up for a client. So I need you to make up some thing lurid about Trump. When I get paid I will give you 10%."

Or maybe Steele didn't even do that with this Trump nonsense. Maybe he just completely made the whole thing up. Wouldn't have been a problem except Trump got elected and somehow the thing got leaked to the point where it blew up on Steele. He can't back up anything, he knows how litigious Trump is, and he needs to hide to avoid the process servers that he knows are coming his way.

Also he probably committed any number of federal crimes in fabricating this stuff--mail fraud, wire fraud, and I'm sure there's a few other felonies in there too.

So that's why he vanished. Just like every other scammer who's about to be exposed as a scammer.



I would go into hiding. There has been talk of Trump having ties to the Russian mob. I would not want to piss off the Russian mob or Russian politicos, like Putin and his henchmen. They're some seriously frightening people!
Anonymous
Post 01/13/2017 08:01     Subject: Russians Compromising Trump

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:^the earth is also flat right?


Good point, PP.

Oh by the way--I have an unverified report on you that you like golden showers. Unverified doesn't mean "false" so it must be true.

PP, why do you like golden showers?


I don't care if you say it.

I would probably care if US INTELLIGENCE said it.
Mine statement has weight. The other doesn't.