Anonymous wrote:A lot of white people (including, obviously, many on this board) prefer to live near, socialize with and marry only other white people.

But I suppose that's different somehow?

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Anonymous wrote:I think we should more or less close our doors to new immigrants/permanent residents. I liken it to a family that would love to have/adopt more children but need to care for the ones they have and just can't afford to have/adopt more, as much as they might like to. I also think we need to stop granting citizenship to children of non-citizens just b/c they are born here.

I agree with you 100%. If you weren't born here, and you're over 18, you gotta go unless you're in an accredited college. If you get pregnant while IN college, you gotta go. If you break the law, you gotta go. If you need to apply for welfare, you gotta go.

Also I think people moving here from other countries should have to assimilate a bit more than they do. There should be a mandatory Learn to Speak English class that gets them fairly proficient. After graduated, you have to teach that class (volunteer). If you are not enrolled within 3 months of arriving here you have to go. If you can't graduate after the second pass of taking it, you gotta go. You can test out of having to take the ESL class, but still have to volunteer. After fulfilling your ESL volunteer obligation, you have to volunteer for an American-created organization that is not based on helping immigrants from your home country. GIVE BACK. If you have a child who commits a crime, you AND that child, gotta go. You are welcome back after that child reaches age 18, but any immigrant who breaks a law is never welcome back to live here permanently. If you are not either working or going to school or some combination of the two that equals full time for more than six months, you gotta go. (There should be waivers for this during recessions.) Full time students can stay in the country between semesters but for any break over two weeks long they must be volunteering or working at least 20 hours a week (or a combo of the two that equals 20 hours a week).

Lastly, I think we should do away with calling human beings "illegals." A person, in and of themselves, can not be an illegal human being. It is not illegal to be alive. We need a different term.

Another term already exists: undocumented worker.

I just want to say that not every immigrant came through Texas (though I don't have a problem with that either). Some of us came because we would have been killed, in a fucking war. Would you rather me stay out nonetheless? The lack of compassion and basic moral compass is so evident on this particular thread that I am utterly disgusted.

Anonymous wrote:I'm opposed to the way Indians come over here and then basically refuse to have anything to do with Americans. They live in the same neighborhoods (and God help you if you accidentally end up in one; my friend lives in one and has actually had the police called on her because she let her dogs into her yard) and refuse to associate with the Americans. Why?? I actually moved because the school my daughter was zoned for was 77% Indian and I feared she'd be ostracized and excluded for not being Indian. I like diversity, meaning nobody in the school, white, Indian, or otherwise, makes up 75% of the population, so she's zoned now for a much more diverse school. But I admit I wouldn't have had as much of a problem had the 75% not been Indian, because I think other groups would have been much more inclusive even if they were the majority. Indians just want to have their neighborhood and school and social circle be India in America and I don't get it.

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Anonymous wrote:Indians. Can't stand them-especially if they are my neighbor. I have NEVR seen one that takes any pride in their home. They are property value destroyers.

You've obviously never been acquainted with Indians who have their MILs living with them. The only possible objection there is cooking smells, and I can tell you, I used to live upstairs from a couple of off-the-boat Italians and it was no better.

I'm unfortunatly acquainted with far too many of them. I live in Herndon and am surrounded. Not ONE of thrm maintains their home. I also travel to India for work and the country is filthy. I have never been to a more filty country and I've traveled all over China. As far as MILs I have no IIdea on that. My indian neighboneighbors have som many people crammed into their homes I cannot sort out who lives there.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm opposed to the way Indians come over here and then basically refuse to have anything to do with Americans. They live in the same neighborhoods (and God help you if you accidentally end up in one; my friend lives in one and has actually had the police called on her because she let her dogs into her yard) and refuse to associate with the Americans. Why?? I actually moved because the school my daughter was zoned for was 77% Indian and I feared she'd be ostracized and excluded for not being Indian. I like diversity, meaning nobody in the school, white, Indian, or otherwise, makes up 75% of the population, so she's zoned now for a much more diverse school. But I admit I wouldn't have had as much of a problem had the 75% not been Indian, because I think other groups would have been much more inclusive even if they were the majority. Indians just want to have their neighborhood and school and social circle be India in America and I don't get it.

This is unfortunately somewhat culturally true of South Asians. I have several friends from Sri Lanka. Most of them absolutely would never consider dating outside the Sri Lankan community, and even then it's narrowed down to Tamil, etc. Not even Indians. But that would be preferably to white Americans. Yet the whole family (mother, father, grandparents, cousins, etc) emigrated here, live here, etc. Kids are born here, speak like Americans, don't really speak Tamil well. I don't actually understand it, as I'm naturalized American too, but originally from Western Europe--hardly the culture from Europeans who really don't care or stick to "our own". (I'm married to a native born American, not even of the same race)

Anonymous wrote:I'm opposed to the way Indians come over here and then basically refuse to have anything to do with Americans. They live in the same neighborhoods (and God help you if you accidentally end up in one; my friend lives in one and has actually had the police called on her because she let her dogs into her yard) and refuse to associate with the Americans. Why?? I actually moved because the school my daughter was zoned for was 77% Indian and I feared she'd be ostracized and excluded for not being Indian. I like diversity, meaning nobody in the school, white, Indian, or otherwise, makes up 75% of the population, so she's zoned now for a much more diverse school. But I admit I wouldn't have had as much of a problem had the 75% not been Indian, because I think other groups would have been much more inclusive even if they were the majority. Indians just want to have their neighborhood and school and social circle be India in America and I don't get it.

Anonymous wrote:I'm opposed to the way Indians come over here and then basically refuse to have anything to do with Americans. They live in the same neighborhoods (and God help you if you accidentally end up in one; my friend lives in one and has actually had the police called on her because she let her dogs into her yard) and refuse to associate with the Americans. Why?? I actually moved because the school my daughter was zoned for was 77% Indian and I feared she'd be ostracized and excluded for not being Indian. I like diversity, meaning nobody in the school, white, Indian, or otherwise, makes up 75% of the population, so she's zoned now for a much more diverse school. But I admit I wouldn't have had as much of a problem had the 75% not been Indian, because I think other groups would have been much more inclusive even if they were the majority. Indians just want to have their neighborhood and school and social circle be India in America and I don't get it.

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Anonymous wrote:I am VERY pro life, but I tell people I am more moderate than I really am. I had a teen pregnancy and placed the child for adoption and I know how hard it is. But almost nobody knows this.

I am very pro choice. I really respect you though. That must have been a very difficult choice to make.

I have to say that I am earnestly hoping for the day that embryo adoption becomes a viable technology, and renders the whole debate moot.

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Anonymous wrote:Indians. Can't stand them-especially if they are my neighbor. I have NEVR seen one that takes any pride in their home. They are property value destroyers.

Do you mean Native Americans? Or Indians from India? All of the Indians I know and live by have nicer yards and houses than anyone in the neighborhood. They have tremendous pride in things. Your post is weird.

+1. My Indian friends all have very, very well-maintained homes and yards.

+2. Several Indian friends who have beautifully maintained homes and take tremendous pride in their homes and yards. I think PP is a bigot.

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Anonymous wrote:Women who wear make up. It's perpetuating a view of women that I find demeaning. After all the whole point of make up is to make a woman look like she is constantly sexually aroused. Ugh.

I saw a program, maybe from NatGeo, of a matriarchal society where the men use makeup hoping to attract women. And some of the ladies were chauvinistic, saying things like, why shouldn't the men try to please them. Very interesting.

Wow. I just wear makeup to hide my horrible facial scarring, because it hurts when I overhear little kids asking their parents "what's wrong with that lady?" and "was that girl in a fire?" The worst is "What's wrong with her face?" Sorry, but I'll keep on with my makeup.

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So the only choice is the United States? I mean, if I didn't have the grades to have graduated from Harvard, would I have?

The U.S. is NOT the only choice. First generation here.

So only you are smart enough, special enough to have the opportunity to do well in life? Since you got here first, apparently this place it finally perfect, so we can all go to hell now? Wow, just wow.

I'm not the PP but let's face it, we can't just let everyone in. We just can't. Sorry, but we can not be the world's homeless shelter and soup kitchen. We can only financially support so many people. We can't even promise that those of us who paid into the social security system are going to be able to collect. We keep raising the age to collect so that more people will die off before they can get their money back. Why should we let more people in that we can't support? Lets figure out how to support the good citizens we have, deport the people who are not here legally AND can't contribute and support themselves AND get rid of those who are f-ing up, causing problems and costing us more $. For those who may have come illegally but are good, contributing members of society, then let's have a path to citizenship. But We need to stop letting in people we can't support, who drain resources from those who have earned them and who we have no room for. Our infrastructure is crumbling under the weight of the population that's already here, dammit.

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Anonymous wrote:Indians. Can't stand them-especially if they are my neighbor. I have NEVR seen one that takes any pride in their home. They are property value destroyers.

Do you mean Native Americans? Or Indians from India? All of the Indians I know and live by have nicer yards and houses than anyone in the neighborhood. They have tremendous pride in things. Your post is weird.

+1. My Indian friends all have very, very well-maintained homes and yards.