Anonymous
03/13/2026 13:26
Subject: Re:How likely for save act to pass senate?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Good God. No one is saying it NEVER happens. What everyone is saying, and this is backed up by data, is that it is an extremely small number of people that have committed voter fraud, something like 40 people in a 25 year period (and hundreds of millions of votes). Not enough to change the outcome of any election.
Tell that to Shelly Simonds or David Yancey in VA whose race ended in a tie in 2017 and was decided by essentially having a name drawn out of a hat.
Or, tell that to Sam Page or Phil Berger in NC - a primary race that has Page leading by 2 votes.
EVERY VOTE MATTERS. And, when ineligible people cast votes it disenfranchises legal voters.
And there’s no evidence of any illegal votes in those elections. Now, if you have an example where illegal voting affected the outcome, please share it.
Do you mean illegal by non-citizens voting, or by votes cast illegally? Most voter fraud is in absentee ballots. Who knows who is casting those votes. And, be
lieve it or not, there is quite a bit more voter fraud than most would like to admit.
I know a prosecutor who successfully prosecuted two voter fraud cases, but said there are far more than that. You usually need someone to "turn" in order to prove it.
Fraud is not easy to prove, but it is there.
So you have no proof. Got it. But you want to disenfranchise hundreds of thousands of people based on fraud you can’t prove has any effect on anything.
Basically this. PP is running the same playbook at Trump. A prosecutor with tears in his eyes came up to PP and said "Sir, I successfully prosecuted two voter fraud cases, but there's just so many more. Nobody's ever seen anything like it."
Anonymous
03/13/2026 13:23
Subject: Re:How likely for save act to pass senate?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Good God. No one is saying it NEVER happens. What everyone is saying, and this is backed up by data, is that it is an extremely small number of people that have committed voter fraud, something like 40 people in a 25 year period (and hundreds of millions of votes). Not enough to change the outcome of any election.
Tell that to Shelly Simonds or David Yancey in VA whose race ended in a tie in 2017 and was decided by essentially having a name drawn out of a hat.
Or, tell that to Sam Page or Phil Berger in NC - a primary race that has Page leading by 2 votes.
EVERY VOTE MATTERS. And, when ineligible people cast votes it disenfranchises legal voters.
And there’s no evidence of any illegal votes in those elections. Now, if you have an example where illegal voting affected the outcome, please share it.
Do you mean illegal by non-citizens voting, or by votes cast illegally? Most voter fraud is in absentee ballots. Who knows who is casting those votes. And, believe it or not, there is quite a bit more voter fraud than most would like to admit.
I know a prosecutor who successfully prosecuted two voter fraud cases, but said there are far more than that. You usually need someone to "turn" in order to prove it.
Fraud is not easy to prove, but it is there.
I just voted absentee by mail in Virginia. In order to do so I needed access to my mailbox, my birth year and the last four digits of my SSN. Even if somebody had stolen the ballot from the mailbox before I got it there's not a whole lot they could have done with it - and I could always request a replacement, invalidating the stolen ballot.
Anonymous
03/13/2026 13:03
Subject: Re:How likely for save act to pass senate?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Good God. No one is saying it NEVER happens. What everyone is saying, and this is backed up by data, is that it is an extremely small number of people that have committed voter fraud, something like 40 people in a 25 year period (and hundreds of millions of votes). Not enough to change the outcome of any election.
Tell that to Shelly Simonds or David Yancey in VA whose race ended in a tie in 2017 and was decided by essentially having a name drawn out of a hat.
Or, tell that to Sam Page or Phil Berger in NC - a primary race that has Page leading by 2 votes.
EVERY VOTE MATTERS. And, when ineligible people cast votes it disenfranchises legal voters.
And there’s no evidence of any illegal votes in those elections. Now, if you have an example where illegal voting affected the outcome, please share it.
Do you mean illegal by non-citizens voting, or by votes cast illegally? Most voter fraud is in absentee ballots. Who knows who is casting those votes. And, believe it or not, there is quite a bit more voter fraud than most would like to admit.
I know a prosecutor who successfully prosecuted two voter fraud cases, but said there are far more than that. You usually need someone to "turn" in order to prove it.
Fraud is not easy to prove, but it is there.
So you have no proof. Got it. But you want to disenfranchise hundreds of thousands of people based on fraud you can’t prove has any effect on anything.
Anonymous
03/13/2026 13:02
Subject: How likely for save act to pass senate?
Anonymous wrote:I live in Virginia and had to produce my birth certificate when I renewed my driver's licence to get the Real ID Compliant for TSA And what n I voted had to show my driver's license.
Don't we already have what the moron in the White House wants?
Not every state requires this. Also, not everyone has a Real ID. That is what would be required.
Currently, in Virginia, a regular drivers license does not indicate citizenship proof. You self-certify--it is a tiny box at the top of your application. You likely need some proof of age, etc, but no one checks citizenship except you.
Anonymous
03/13/2026 12:59
Subject: How likely for save act to pass senate?
A snowball, on a picnic table in DC on July 4, has a better chance of not melting than this has of passing in the US Senate
Anonymous
03/13/2026 12:56
Subject: How likely for save act to pass senate?
I live in Virginia and had to produce my birth certificate when I renewed my driver's licence to get the Real ID Compliant for TSA And what n I voted had to show my driver's license.
Don't we already have what the moron in the White House wants?
Don't we already have what the moron in the White House wants?
Anonymous
03/13/2026 12:54
Subject: Re:How likely for save act to pass senate?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Good God. No one is saying it NEVER happens. What everyone is saying, and this is backed up by data, is that it is an extremely small number of people that have committed voter fraud, something like 40 people in a 25 year period (and hundreds of millions of votes). Not enough to change the outcome of any election.
Tell that to Shelly Simonds or David Yancey in VA whose race ended in a tie in 2017 and was decided by essentially having a name drawn out of a hat.
Or, tell that to Sam Page or Phil Berger in NC - a primary race that has Page leading by 2 votes.
EVERY VOTE MATTERS. And, when ineligible people cast votes it disenfranchises legal voters.
And there’s no evidence of any illegal votes in those elections. Now, if you have an example where illegal voting affected the outcome, please share it.
Do you mean illegal by non-citizens voting, or by votes cast illegally? Most voter fraud is in absentee ballots. Who knows who is casting those votes. And, believe it or not, there is quite a bit more voter fraud than most would like to admit.
I know a prosecutor who successfully prosecuted two voter fraud cases, but said there are far more than that. You usually need someone to "turn" in order to prove it.
Fraud is not easy to prove, but it is there.
Anonymous
03/13/2026 11:56
Subject: Re:How likely for save act to pass senate?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Good God. No one is saying it NEVER happens. What everyone is saying, and this is backed up by data, is that it is an extremely small number of people that have committed voter fraud, something like 40 people in a 25 year period (and hundreds of millions of votes). Not enough to change the outcome of any election.
Tell that to Shelly Simonds or David Yancey in VA whose race ended in a tie in 2017 and was decided by essentially having a name drawn out of a hat.
Or, tell that to Sam Page or Phil Berger in NC - a primary race that has Page leading by 2 votes.
EVERY VOTE MATTERS. And, when ineligible people cast votes it disenfranchises legal voters.
And there’s no evidence of any illegal votes in those elections. Now, if you have an example where illegal voting affected the outcome, please share it.
Anonymous
03/13/2026 11:43
Subject: Re:How likely for save act to pass senate?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Good God. No one is saying it NEVER happens. What everyone is saying, and this is backed up by data, is that it is an extremely small number of people that have committed voter fraud, something like 40 people in a 25 year period (and hundreds of millions of votes). Not enough to change the outcome of any election.
Tell that to Shelly Simonds or David Yancey in VA whose race ended in a tie in 2017 and was decided by essentially having a name drawn out of a hat.
Or, tell that to Sam Page or Phil Berger in NC - a primary race that has Page leading by 2 votes.
EVERY VOTE MATTERS. And, when ineligible people cast votes it disenfranchises legal voters.
How could you possibly get the infrastructure in place to do all of this in advance of 2026? Would voters wait in long lines to have all of this documentation validated before or during voting? You would disenfranchise tens of millions of voters this way (which is clearly the disingenuous plan). Your post is nonsense.
Anonymous
03/13/2026 11:43
Subject: Re:How likely for save act to pass senate?
Good news is middle class/umc women's votes will outnumber all classes of men men's because women keep track of shit and will send off to get what they need (and they have fixed the maiden name issue). My husband once abandoned a car because he couldn't find the title and so couldn't sell it.
But people of both genders who have less resources will be disenfranchised.
But people of both genders who have less resources will be disenfranchised.
Anonymous
03/13/2026 11:40
Subject: Re:How likely for save act to pass senate?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Good God. No one is saying it NEVER happens. What everyone is saying, and this is backed up by data, is that it is an extremely small number of people that have committed voter fraud, something like 40 people in a 25 year period (and hundreds of millions of votes). Not enough to change the outcome of any election.
Tell that to Shelly Simonds or David Yancey in VA whose race ended in a tie in 2017 and was decided by essentially having a name drawn out of a hat.
Or, tell that to Sam Page or Phil Berger in NC - a primary race that has Page leading by 2 votes.
EVERY VOTE MATTERS. And, when ineligible people cast votes it disenfranchises legal voters.
This is pretty desperate.
But it’s a matter for their respective states to address, not the federal government.
Anonymous
03/13/2026 11:39
Subject: Re:How likely for save act to pass senate?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Good God. No one is saying it NEVER happens. What everyone is saying, and this is backed up by data, is that it is an extremely small number of people that have committed voter fraud, something like 40 people in a 25 year period (and hundreds of millions of votes). Not enough to change the outcome of any election.
Tell that to Shelly Simonds or David Yancey in VA whose race ended in a tie in 2017 and was decided by essentially having a name drawn out of a hat.
Or, tell that to Sam Page or Phil Berger in NC - a primary race that has Page leading by 2 votes.
EVERY VOTE MATTERS. And, when ineligible people cast votes it disenfranchises legal voters.
When voters suddenly need hundreds of dollars for passport-level documentation to cast a ballot, it also disenfranchises legal voters. Several orders of magnitude more legal voters.
Anonymous
03/13/2026 11:39
Subject: Re:How likely for save act to pass senate?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Good God. No one is saying it NEVER happens. What everyone is saying, and this is backed up by data, is that it is an extremely small number of people that have committed voter fraud, something like 40 people in a 25 year period (and hundreds of millions of votes). Not enough to change the outcome of any election.
Tell that to Shelly Simonds or David Yancey in VA whose race ended in a tie in 2017 and was decided by essentially having a name drawn out of a hat.
Or, tell that to Sam Page or Phil Berger in NC - a primary race that has Page leading by 2 votes.
EVERY VOTE MATTERS. And, when ineligible people cast votes it disenfranchises legal voters.
So to address those exceptionally rare cases, in which you have no proof that there were any illegal votes, your plan is to disenfranchise millions of voters?
Are you also an anti vaxxer or someone that doesn’t wear a seatbelt in case you get trapped in a car fire?
Anonymous
03/13/2026 11:38
Subject: Re:How likely for save act to pass senate?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Good God. No one is saying it NEVER happens. What everyone is saying, and this is backed up by data, is that it is an extremely small number of people that have committed voter fraud, something like 40 people in a 25 year period (and hundreds of millions of votes). Not enough to change the outcome of any election.
Tell that to Shelly Simonds or David Yancey in VA whose race ended in a tie in 2017 and was decided by essentially having a name drawn out of a hat.
Or, tell that to Sam Page or Phil Berger in NC - a primary race that has Page leading by 2 votes.
EVERY VOTE MATTERS. And, when ineligible people cast votes it disenfranchises legal voters.
How many legal voters are YOU planning to disenfranchise who won't be able to produce birth certificates, marriage certificates, etc.? Have you had a chance to talk to Shelly Simonds, David Yancey, Sam Page, or Phil Berger to get their thoughts on this?
Anonymous
03/13/2026 11:34
Subject: Re:How likely for save act to pass senate?
Anonymous wrote:
Good God. No one is saying it NEVER happens. What everyone is saying, and this is backed up by data, is that it is an extremely small number of people that have committed voter fraud, something like 40 people in a 25 year period (and hundreds of millions of votes). Not enough to change the outcome of any election.
Tell that to Shelly Simonds or David Yancey in VA whose race ended in a tie in 2017 and was decided by essentially having a name drawn out of a hat.
Or, tell that to Sam Page or Phil Berger in NC - a primary race that has Page leading by 2 votes.
EVERY VOTE MATTERS. And, when ineligible people cast votes it disenfranchises legal voters.