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Anonymous wrote:Here’s what I don’t get. Trump had to have known he was on the list. So why did he ever run on this? Why did he promise to release the list, knowing he would be on it? Did he think he would redact his own name? Did he think he could release a fake list with whatever names he wanted on there? Did Epstein tell him he was omitted from the list and Trump just learned that was a lie?

He has an IQ of 80 and was going for the red meat of votes and "deal with it later" - because he has managed to skate on everything he has ever done in his life, so he figured he would skate on this too.

Anonymous wrote:Here’s what I don’t get. Trump had to have known he was on the list. So why did he ever run on this? Why did he promise to release the list, knowing he would be on it? Did he think he would redact his own name? Did he think he could release a fake list with whatever names he wanted on there? Did Epstein tell him he was omitted from the list and Trump just learned that was a lie?

Anonymous wrote:Here’s what I don’t get. Trump had to have known he was on the list. So why did he ever run on this? Why did he promise to release the list, knowing he would be on it? Did he think he would redact his own name? Did he think he could release a fake list with whatever names he wanted on there? Did Epstein tell him he was omitted from the list and Trump just learned that was a lie?

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Anonymous wrote:It’s hilarious that MAGA thinks only Dems are on that list. Sad for them to finally see that they’ve been lied to by a con man

*1 I don’t understand any of this. Trump is on this list 100%. Does he not know he’s on the list? Why would he let MAGA believe only Dems are on the list and promise the release of this list to his followers? They all bought into this but why would he even want to go there if he’s on the list? None of this makes any sense to me. And I find it hard to believe there isn’t someone out there who has the actual list-like a journalist or Matt drudge type holding it over Bondi’s head that if she releases a fake version they’ll release the real version. That’s what I think is going on here. Either way this is making Donald crack-this is turning into his watergate.

Anonymous wrote:Wtf?

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Anonymous wrote:Are a lot of posters contending that everyone who flew to Epstein’s private island - including people like Bill Clinton and Bill Gates - had absolutely 100% nothing creepy going on even though they were going to a private island owned by a pedophile?

Do you skeptics believe that no one, except Epstein, raped the hundreds of women who accused him while at this private island or at his houses?

I think believing that Epstein, and Epstein alone, is the only one who abused any of these women at these places is more of a looney theory than believing that at least some other powerful people were culpable.

There are already unsealed documents citing Alan Dershowitz and Prince Andrew as participating. Why is it a conspiracy to think other powerful people were involved?

https://www.businessinsider.com/epstein-accuser-detailed-sex-with-alan-dershowitz-in-unsealed-document-2024-1

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/world/virginia-giuffre-plaintiff-in-epstein-and-prince-andrew-sex-trafficking-case-dies-at-41

It's not a conspiracy theory. It's an actual conspiracy. I think most people believe are powerful and rich people on both side of the aisle who want this to be buried and forgotten, and it's now clear to most of his supporters that Trump is one of them.

It should also signal to them with the vote that the Dems aren’t afraid of releasing it knowing there’s at least one prominent Dem on it.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s hilarious that MAGA thinks only Dems are on that list. Sad for them to finally see that they’ve been lied to by a con man

*1 I don’t understand any of this. Trump is on this list 100%. Does he not know he’s on the list? Why would he let MAGA believe only Dems are on the list and promise the release of this list to his followers? They all bought into this but why would he even want to go there if he’s on the list? None of this makes any sense to me. And I find it hard to believe there isn’t someone out there who has the actual list-like a journalist or Matt drudge type holding it over Bondi’s head that if she releases a fake version they’ll release the real version. That’s what I think is going on here. Either way this is making Donald crack-this is turning into his watergate.

They’ve probably fully embraced the blame Biden/Obama doctrine and have put up mental blocks over trump’s/barr’s involvement. Look at Bill O’Riely not being able to grasp, seemingly genuinely confused about whose administration was in power when Epstein died. He really seemed confused in the video clip.

“ O’Reilly went on to insist that Epstein was “convicted under Merrick Garland’s Justice Department” and then “incarcerated” before killing himself in jail, prompting Vittert to explain that his guest had his facts completely wrong.
“Bill, I think this is important,” the On Balance host noted. “He was arrested in 2019, and he committed suicide in 2019. He died August 10, 2019. So the Biden administration was not involved in a conviction or a trial of him. They were with his madam, Ghislaine Maxwell.”
Acknowledging that Vittert made a “good point of clarification,” O’Reilly proceeded to double down and once again claimed that Garland was responsible for indicting Epstein in 2019, leading Vittert to point out one more time that this was incorrect.”

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/bill-oreilly-trump-epstein-biden-b2789412.html

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are a lot of posters contending that everyone who flew to Epstein’s private island - including people like Bill Clinton and Bill Gates - had absolutely 100% nothing creepy going on even though they were going to a private island owned by a pedophile?

Do you skeptics believe that no one, except Epstein, raped the hundreds of women who accused him while at this private island or at his houses?

I think believing that Epstein, and Epstein alone, is the only one who abused any of these women at these places is more of a looney theory than believing that at least some other powerful people were culpable.

There are already unsealed documents citing Alan Dershowitz and Prince Andrew as participating. Why is it a conspiracy to think other powerful people were involved?

https://www.businessinsider.com/epstein-accuser-detailed-sex-with-alan-dershowitz-in-unsealed-document-2024-1

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/world/virginia-giuffre-plaintiff-in-epstein-and-prince-andrew-sex-trafficking-case-dies-at-41

It's not a conspiracy theory. It's an actual conspiracy. I think most people believe are powerful and rich people on both side of the aisle who want this to be buried and forgotten, and it's now clear to most of his supporters that Trump is one of them.

Anonymous wrote:It’s hilarious that MAGA thinks only Dems are on that list. Sad for them to finally see that they’ve been lied to by a con man