Imho moving away was the right move. It opened up lots of opportunities and they no longer have to abide by royal constraints while still able to use their royal status to their advantage. Wealthy and influential people in Hollywood tripped over each other to give them favors. I think there is some truth to some powers hoping for them to run for White House.

Anonymous wrote:I can’t even imagine how isolating it must be to be will and Kate now. For the rest of their lives they cannot confide in anyone but each other and their immediate family (and often not even then).

Yes because Harry broke the seal but it needed to be broken.

Harry looking dapper at London's High Court this morning.

Anonymous wrote:I can’t even imagine how isolating it must be to be will and Kate now. For the rest of their lives they cannot confide in anyone but each other and their immediate family (and often not even then).

What a strange remark. How many people does one need to share confidences with?

It is fascinating how differently different people are reading this situation.

It makes me wonder what baggage everyone is bringing to the table when they form opinions.

This is all down to Will and actually Kate. Deep seated resentment towards Meghan and it got out of hand.

The biggest reveal is their dinner where Meghan was told she was inappropriate to Kate when she said " It's fine, it is baby brain."

"We aren't close enough to talk about my hormones. "
(What?)

She didn't know how to compete with Meghan in the shared limelight. William really has a thing where he is pretty petty when it comes to Harry. He has to be in charge.

Secondly, Meghan encouraged Harry to get therapy which is really too much for this group. They accused her of brainwashing him.

I can’t even imagine how isolating it must be to be will and Kate now. For the rest of their lives they cannot confide in anyone but each other and their immediate family (and often not even then).

Seems fairly obvious that he was regarded as a satellite of Wm & Kate and when he got his own wife he wanted to be center of gravity in his new family, and wanted to level up to a level of respect and adulting that he’d never had. There was resistance but the royals treated the couple amazingly well w jewelry, trips, special engagements, big budgets, and a new house with renovations all to make them feel not less than. But they just could not take being suborn in any way, so the split and have been throwing a look-at-me tantrum ever since.

I think he was overprotective of Meghan and that made him over sensitive towards others. This originated partly from losing his mom, not having emotional ties with his father and from Meghan being manipulative due to her insecurities and disappointment with their position in royal firm.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think Meghan turned Harry against Kate and William. Her presence made it clear to him that he and his family aren't equal to Willam's family as William is a crown prince, so is his son and his wife is next queen. While Harry and his family are no more important than Andrew and his family.

Harry always knew that and maybe always resented it. But he used to like Kate.

In their documentary Harry discussed the good relationship he had with William and Kate. Then he said something like "six years ago that all changed." This time period coincides with Meghan Markle's relationship with Prince Harry. I am not blaming her for the strain, but clearly some thing changed. I don't think William and Kate caused the change

Harry in his book says his relationship with Will has been strained since middle school. Harry claims Will was always competitive with him and jealous of his successes. Don't know if any of that's true. But it's one explanation.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think Meghan turned Harry against Kate and William. Her presence made it clear to him that he and his family aren't equal to Willam's family as William is a crown prince, so is his son and his wife is next queen. While Harry and his family are no more important than Andrew and his family.

Harry always knew that and maybe always resented it. But he used to like Kate.

In their documentary Harry discussed the good relationship he had with William and Kate. Then he said something like "six years ago that all changed." This time period coincides with Meghan Markle's relationship with Prince Harry. I am not blaming her for the strain, but clearly some thing changed. I don't think William and Kate caused the change

Anonymous wrote:I don't think Meghan turned Harry against Kate and William. Her presence made it clear to him that he and his family aren't equal to Willam's family as William is a crown prince, so is his son and his wife is next queen. While Harry and his family are no more important than Andrew and his family.

Harry always knew that and maybe always resented it. But he used to like Kate.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m just about done with the book and what strikes me is a) how much he resents William and b)how little grace he accords to Kate, as he doesn’t seem to see that she’s also in defensive/abuse survivor mode after she was subject to the same things as Meghan and Diana. If she really complains that Meghan was out of line for mentioning her hormones because “we don’t know each other well enough to mention hormones” that poor woman is terrified of opening up to anyone in case someone finds out something. She’s insecure as well.

That's a really interesting idea. I think, no matter how you look at it, there's a lot of dysfunction going on. It'll be interesting to see how Kate's kids turn out. At first glance, they benefit from having 'normal' maternal family members. But, I have to wonder how normal they are if they're so supportive of Kate living in the environment she is and raising kids in it.

Kate is a grown woman who has loved William since she was a teen so what her family can do here? She didn't have an arranged marriage nor was ignorant of his family dynamics and clearly wants to be where she is.

I don't think Meghan turned Harry against Kate and William. Her presence made it clear to him that he and his family aren't equal to Willam's family as William is a crown prince, so is his son and his wife is next queen. While Harry and his family are no more important than Andrew and his family.

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Anonymous wrote:Cutting off everyone doesn't mean you are shedding your emotional burden. You sure can shed your birth family, shed your friends, shed your in-laws, shed your ex partners, leave your home but you are never free. You'll probably make similar mistakes with new partners, children and friends. Running from people only works if you become monks.

You are speaking only for yourself. Cutting off toxic family, friends and partners works wonders for most people’s health, both mentally and physically.

Except it’s a “you problem.” When it’s your father, cousins, best friend (remember her bestie maid of honor - gone), and your spouse’s family.

Not to mention the ex-husbands, boyfriend she dumped after she returned from her trip to Botswana with Harry, and the numerous palace aids (including one tough cookie who worked for Hillary Clinton) that Meghan also dumped.