Anonymous
Post 01/05/2023 12:26     Subject: Speaker of the House Vote Thread

Anonymous wrote:Do they have to keep with these long winded speeches? This reminds me of A Knight's Tale when they started introducing Heath with long winded "flare". We know who you're nominating, just do it already.

GOP use their speeches to describe a mythical past and trash Dems.
Democrats use their speeches to remind voters of policy - the Good that Dems have passed, the Bad of rolling back voting rights, and the Ugly of SCOTUS's removal of woman's right to privacy.
Anonymous
Post 01/05/2023 12:25     Subject: Speaker of the House Vote Thread

Anonymous wrote:Gotta hand it to JJ. He's good y'all.


Dumb speech. Claiming their big victory was winning a vote last night (by a margin of 2 votes) to ADJOURN and not get anything done.
Anonymous
Post 01/05/2023 12:24     Subject: Speaker of the House Vote Thread

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe it's already in the thread, but isn't there some sense in several Ds giving votes to McCarthy for concessions instead of him bowing to the RW?

JFC, for the last time, this is not Democrats problem to solve! News flash, KM IS RW! He’s giving the bomb throwers everything they’ve asked for. Stop asking Dems to clean up GOP sh!t. Again, any Rs who want to govern can reach out to Jeffries. Until then, we can all see who are the grownups and who are the children. Next election, vote accordingly.

Not suggesting in any way that it's the D's problem to solve, but that the Ds could capitalize on the chaos to secure committee seats, debt ceiling votes, whatever else. I think Pelosi is right and had the Rs been the leaders during 1/6, we would not be a (version of a) democracy today. We all have to live here for the next 2 years, and I don't want to just see who the adults are - I want a functioning government that can at the very least ensure our country continues to exist.


They wouldn’t secure any of those things. All those things require separate House votes, not dictates of the Speaker. Everything the House does for the next two years will require a separate vote to come to the floor.


But the Speaker controls what the House votes on. A sane Speaker could just tell the crazies to stuff it and put a debt ceiling vote on the floor, get all 212 Democratic votes and a handful of Republican votes. But one who is captive to the crazies will just never let that vote happen.


No. That’s not how it works. The Speaker proposes the schedule but there are 2 or 3 procedural votes to bring any bill to the floor. Votes to “Move the Previous Question” and to “Adopt the Rule” and maybe a minority motion to recommit the rule before the vote to adopt it.
Anonymous
Post 01/05/2023 12:23     Subject: Speaker of the House Vote Thread

Anonymous wrote:Black Republicans are weird. It's like they want a medal for not being Democrats


This!
Anonymous
Post 01/05/2023 12:22     Subject: Speaker of the House Vote Thread

James campaigning for that Senate seat
Anonymous
Post 01/05/2023 12:22     Subject: Speaker of the House Vote Thread

Gotta hand it to JJ. He's good y'all.
Anonymous
Post 01/05/2023 12:21     Subject: Speaker of the House Vote Thread

Black Republicans are weird. It's like they want a medal for not being Democrats
Anonymous
Post 01/05/2023 12:19     Subject: Speaker of the House Vote Thread

Why do they give log speeches just to introduce McCarthy
Anonymous
Post 01/05/2023 12:18     Subject: Speaker of the House Vote Thread

John James is such a loser lol
Anonymous
Post 01/05/2023 12:16     Subject: Speaker of the House Vote Thread

Does the GOP version of "keeping an eye on China" include a probe of how much Chinese money Trump took in his account while he was president?
Anonymous
Post 01/05/2023 12:16     Subject: Re:Speaker of the House Vote Thread

Anonymous
Post 01/05/2023 12:15     Subject: Speaker of the House Vote Thread

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Anonymous wrote:McCarthy has given away so much power, that he would have no power. And the crazies win.

Really, some moderate GOP, if there are any left, need to join with the dems and arrive at a solution.


McCarthy had no power to give away. That’s how he found himself in this position. The GOP resigned itself to be little more than the Cult of Trump with performative bit players falling over one another for a nightly hit on Fox News. Now, without someone to replace Trump at the national level, they are nothing but cheap slogans. They have no idea how to govern in part because Trump made no pretense of being interested in governing.

Agree but this started way before Trump.


But Boehner could still manage to get some things done despite being undercut by Ryan-Cantor-McCarthy. The Tea Party whackos were another matter as they were mostly a distraction because of the sizable GOP majority of more than 240 members.
Anonymous
Post 01/05/2023 12:15     Subject: Speaker of the House Vote Thread

Do they have to keep with these long winded speeches? This reminds me of A Knight's Tale when they started introducing Heath with long winded "flare". We know who you're nominating, just do it already.
Anonymous
Post 01/05/2023 12:12     Subject: Speaker of the House Vote Thread

"stop being jerks you mules"
Anonymous
Post 01/05/2023 12:11     Subject: Re:Speaker of the House Vote Thread