Anonymous
05/03/2022 12:49
Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Such a lengthy opinion when all they have to say is “because the Catholic Church is against abortion.”
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And more appalling that these were judges appointed by presidents who lost the popular vote.
We are no longer a functional representative democracy.
We were never a functional representative democracy. Since the founding of this country, we've been ruled by a wealthy minority -- a minority that tells us to what to think, what to say, what to do, what to eat, where to work, etc.
That happens by consent. When the consent is no longer there, then things change. This country has changed a lot since its founding. Those of us who didn't sleep through school, or through any stories from family members or friends, know this.
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What people understand and were willing to believe has changed a lot.
So far one thing I know to be true, the GOP doesn’t care about America or the women who live here. If they did:
I don’t think they will change the filibuster but maybe Collins, Murkowski, and the Ds can whip up 60 votes to protect women?
Susan "but he promised me he'd uphold Roe" Collins???? LOLOLOL.
Time for her and others to step up to protect women.
The overwhelming majority of abortions are performed early in pregnancy. Why not pass a bill preserving access to abortions before 16 weeks (that is almost all of them).
I will never forget what made Ireland of all places change their stance. A 17 week pregnancy (that was wanted) went wrong, I can't remember why but they couldn't give her an abortion due to Ireland's laws. The woman died and Ireland took a second look and changed their laws. There are many more reasons to keep abortion in place than just choice itself.
This, and they don't always find out about fatal birth defects until the 20 week ultrasound. That's why the 24 weeks made sense even though only a tiny amount of abortions would happen at that time. I heard this lunatic Oklahoma legislator (female) speaking today about their trigger law that will ban all abortions, even for rape and incest.
Oh I heard that woman on BBC. I was IRATE because she was so precious about how in Oklahoma we don't murder anyone and while rape is tragic, murder is still wrong. Oklahoma is one of the worst states in the nation for the death penalty - it has the highest executions per capita of any state in the country. Guess only some murder's are wrong.
Anonymous
05/03/2022 12:48
Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Go woke go broke. It's too bad that the leftward social march of the democratic party resulted in women losing their right to decide about their own body and health. C'est la vie. If the democrats don't come back toward the center, I think the right to abortion is probably permanently gone
C'est la vie my a**. A right we all had for decades is now stripped from our children. This is a mother of a fight.
There is no "right" to an abortion. That is what this entire decision is about It was wrong from the beginning.
I have a Constitutional right to the pursuit of happiness and not having a child, for whatever reason, is me pursuing happiness.
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Anonymous
05/03/2022 12:48
Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:The baseless conspiracy theories about the leak being thrown around this thread put many of you in the same league as the Far Right nuts and their conspiracy theories.
You mean like the far right nut that's married to an SC justice, that was an active participant in an attempted coup, is obsessed with overturning Roe, actively involved in its politics, and is known to regularly have access to draft opinions?
Anonymous
05/03/2022 12:47
Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Go woke go broke. It's too bad that the leftward social march of the democratic party resulted in women losing their right to decide about their own body and health. C'est la vie. If the democrats don't come back toward the center, I think the right to abortion is probably permanently gone
C'est la vie my a**. A right we all had for decades is now stripped from our children. This is a mother of a fight.
There is no "right" to an abortion. That is what this entire decision is about It was wrong from the beginning.
I have a Constitutional right to the pursuit of happiness and not having a child, for whatever reason, is me pursuing happiness.
My religion says my body is a temple and I should have complete control over whether I host a fetus. Not being able to obtain an abortion hinders my ability to freely exercise my religion.
Anonymous
05/03/2022 12:47
Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
There's no "right" to a lot of things. Shall we repeal all laws that aren't specifically mentioned in the Constitution?
Anonymous
05/03/2022 12:45
Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Go woke go broke. It's too bad that the leftward social march of the democratic party resulted in women losing their right to decide about their own body and health. C'est la vie. If the democrats don't come back toward the center, I think the right to abortion is probably permanently gone
C'est la vie my a**. A right we all had for decades is now stripped from our children. This is a mother of a fight.
There is no "right" to an abortion. That is what this entire decision is about It was wrong from the beginning.
I have a Constitutional right to the pursuit of happiness and not having a child, for whatever reason, is me pursuing happiness.
Anonymous
05/03/2022 12:41
Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:The baseless conspiracy theories about the leak being thrown around this thread put many of you in the same league as the Far Right nuts and their conspiracy theories.
Someone leaked it. One side stood to benefit, the other might actually be harmed by people digging in their heels. One side has a history of smashing norms to pieces. Nothing nuts about pointing out facts.
Anonymous
05/03/2022 12:41
Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The baseless conspiracy theories about the leak being thrown around this thread put many of you in the same league as the Far Right nuts and their conspiracy theories.
You know Roberts confirmed the opinion is real, right?
It's not about whether the draft is real or not, but who leaked the draft and why.
Start a thread about the leak and carry on about it in there.
Anonymous
05/03/2022 12:40
Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Who do we think leaked it?
Anonymous
05/03/2022 12:40
Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Guardian has an article at Ohio. Wanted doctors to reimplant an epotopic pregnancy. You know the kind that would kill you
Anonymous
05/03/2022 12:39
Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:It's amazing how many people are ok with the leak because they think it will help the left in the mid terms. If this happened 3 years ago, there would be calls for treason charges.
I haven’t seen any people like that here. And finding out earlier in a way that softens the actual later blow does not “help the left in the mid terms.”
Anonymous
05/03/2022 12:39
Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:I’m not a GOP supporter and I’m NOT ok with the leak. But now that it’s out, I’m not going to pretend to be more outraged over the leak than the actual issue at hand. Whoever leaked it should face the just punishment. For me, this is secondary to the issue at hand. [/quote
Odds are good it’s one of your party men who did the leak. Are you still going to be ok with “just punishment” then? Just asking.
Anonymous
05/03/2022 12:39
Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Such a lengthy opinion when all they have to say is “because the Catholic Church is against abortion.”
+100000000
And more appalling that these were judges appointed by presidents who lost the popular vote.
We are no longer a functional representative democracy.
According to the guardian, Ohio wanted a doctor to random planned an eptopic pregnancy. You know the kind that would kill you
We were never a functional representative democracy. Since the founding of this country, we've been ruled by a wealthy minority -- a minority that tells us to what to think, what to say, what to do, what to eat, where to work, etc.
That happens by consent. When the consent is no longer there, then things change. This country has changed a lot since its founding. Those of us who didn't sleep through school, or through any stories from family members or friends, know this.
+1
What people understand and were willing to believe has changed a lot.
So far one thing I know to be true, the GOP doesn’t care about America or the women who live here. If they did:
I don’t think they will change the filibuster but maybe Collins, Murkowski, and the Ds can whip up 60 votes to protect women?
Susan "but he promised me he'd uphold Roe" Collins???? LOLOLOL.
Time for her and others to step up to protect women.
The overwhelming majority of abortions are performed early in pregnancy. Why not pass a bill preserving access to abortions before 16 weeks (that is almost all of them).
I will never forget what made Ireland of all places change their stance. A 17 week pregnancy (that was wanted) went wrong, I can't remember why but they couldn't give her an abortion due to Ireland's laws. The woman died and Ireland took a second look and changed their laws. There are many more reasons to keep abortion in place than just choice itself.
This, and they don't always find out about fatal birth defects until the 20 week ultrasound. That's why the 24 weeks made sense even though only a tiny amount of abortions would happen at that time. I heard this lunatic Oklahoma legislator (female) speaking today about their trigger law that will ban all abortions, even for rape and incest.
Anonymous
05/03/2022 12:39
Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The baseless conspiracy theories about the leak being thrown around this thread put many of you in the same league as the Far Right nuts and their conspiracy theories.
You know Roberts confirmed the opinion is real, right?
It's not about whether the draft is real or not, but who leaked the draft and why.
Don't care. Roe is gone.
Anonymous
05/03/2022 12:38
Subject: Re:“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft
Anonymous wrote:Someone should set up a crowd sourced list of Republican women who have had IVF and abortions. They usually can’t shut up about them at the time they happen. I’m not encouraging anyone to violate HIPPA. Burn them.
How about includebrepublicans that were conceived by IVF.