Anonymous wrote:In a very Ukrainian move, Zelensky just fired the head of the Air Force while saying they are still looking into what caused the loss of the F-16:
https://kyivindependent.com/zelensky-dismisses-air-force-commander-oleshchuk/
I guess they know what the cause was, but they sure aren't going to admit it.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The Pavel Durov saga should be instructive to Ukrainians. The West was happy to use him as a catspaw against Russia, contrasting the "authoritarian" Russian meddling with Western "freedom."
Once he outlived his usefulness, the hammer comes down. Discarded and off to the gulag because he didn't give someone something they wanted, all the past laurels forgotten.
He probably thought he would be told "well done good and faithful servant." But like Ukraine, he picked the side that discards its minions as soon as they are done with them
Actually what his saga demonstrates is that the West will always treat you like a Russian when the hammer comes down. It doesn't matter that you were raised in Italy, are a citizen of UAE, France and god knows how many other countries, a bona fide prodigy and a billionaire. The West offers no safe haven, only an illusion of it. It's sort of ironic that the "great minds" behind personal sanctions thought it would help tighten the screws on Putin. Quite the opposite. It has shown wealthy Russians with legitimate businesses in the West that their money is not safe in the West.
Won’t someone think of the poor Russian oligarchs who subsumed the economy after the fall of the USSR? What of their mansions in London? What of their wealth??! It’s just so unfair.
Wait. What if. What if Russia simply stopped attacking Ukraine? Do you think maybe the west would want to repair ties after a period of contrition? How about that?
Whatever grievances you may have against Durov, getting rich off the fall of the USSR isn’t one of them. Or having anything to do with the war in Ukraine, either.
He kind of does, though. Telegram is one of the Russian Armed Forces unofficial communications backchannels, it is also being used to avoid sanctions, enable illegal weapons sales and other things that help fund and enable Russia's war against Ukraine.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The Pavel Durov saga should be instructive to Ukrainians. The West was happy to use him as a catspaw against Russia, contrasting the "authoritarian" Russian meddling with Western "freedom."
Once he outlived his usefulness, the hammer comes down. Discarded and off to the gulag because he didn't give someone something they wanted, all the past laurels forgotten.
He probably thought he would be told "well done good and faithful servant." But like Ukraine, he picked the side that discards its minions as soon as they are done with them
Actually what his saga demonstrates is that the West will always treat you like a Russian when the hammer comes down. It doesn't matter that you were raised in Italy, are a citizen of UAE, France and god knows how many other countries, a bona fide prodigy and a billionaire. The West offers no safe haven, only an illusion of it. It's sort of ironic that the "great minds" behind personal sanctions thought it would help tighten the screws on Putin. Quite the opposite. It has shown wealthy Russians with legitimate businesses in the West that their money is not safe in the West.
Won’t someone think of the poor Russian oligarchs who subsumed the economy after the fall of the USSR? What of their mansions in London? What of their wealth??! It’s just so unfair.
Wait. What if. What if Russia simply stopped attacking Ukraine? Do you think maybe the west would want to repair ties after a period of contrition? How about that?
Whatever grievances you may have against Durov, getting rich off the fall of the USSR isn’t one of them. Or having anything to do with the war in Ukraine, either.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The Pavel Durov saga should be instructive to Ukrainians. The West was happy to use him as a catspaw against Russia, contrasting the "authoritarian" Russian meddling with Western "freedom."
Once he outlived his usefulness, the hammer comes down. Discarded and off to the gulag because he didn't give someone something they wanted, all the past laurels forgotten.
He probably thought he would be told "well done good and faithful servant." But like Ukraine, he picked the side that discards its minions as soon as they are done with them
Actually what his saga demonstrates is that the West will always treat you like a Russian when the hammer comes down. It doesn't matter that you were raised in Italy, are a citizen of UAE, France and god knows how many other countries, a bona fide prodigy and a billionaire. The West offers no safe haven, only an illusion of it. It's sort of ironic that the "great minds" behind personal sanctions thought it would help tighten the screws on Putin. Quite the opposite. It has shown wealthy Russians with legitimate businesses in the West that their money is not safe in the West.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The Pavel Durov saga should be instructive to Ukrainians. The West was happy to use him as a catspaw against Russia, contrasting the "authoritarian" Russian meddling with Western "freedom."
Once he outlived his usefulness, the hammer comes down. Discarded and off to the gulag because he didn't give someone something they wanted, all the past laurels forgotten.
He probably thought he would be told "well done good and faithful servant." But like Ukraine, he picked the side that discards its minions as soon as they are done with them
Actually what his saga demonstrates is that the West will always treat you like a Russian when the hammer comes down. It doesn't matter that you were raised in Italy, are a citizen of UAE, France and god knows how many other countries, a bona fide prodigy and a billionaire. The West offers no safe haven, only an illusion of it. It's sort of ironic that the "great minds" behind personal sanctions thought it would help tighten the screws on Putin. Quite the opposite. It has shown wealthy Russians with legitimate businesses in the West that their money is not safe in the West.
Won’t someone think of the poor Russian oligarchs who subsumed the economy after the fall of the USSR? What of their mansions in London? What of their wealth??! It’s just so unfair.
Wait. What if. What if Russia simply stopped attacking Ukraine? Do you think maybe the west would want to repair ties after a period of contrition? How about that?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The Pavel Durov saga should be instructive to Ukrainians. The West was happy to use him as a catspaw against Russia, contrasting the "authoritarian" Russian meddling with Western "freedom."
Once he outlived his usefulness, the hammer comes down. Discarded and off to the gulag because he didn't give someone something they wanted, all the past laurels forgotten.
He probably thought he would be told "well done good and faithful servant." But like Ukraine, he picked the side that discards its minions as soon as they are done with them
Actually what his saga demonstrates is that the West will always treat you like a Russian when the hammer comes down. It doesn't matter that you were raised in Italy, are a citizen of UAE, France and god knows how many other countries, a bona fide prodigy and a billionaire. The West offers no safe haven, only an illusion of it. It's sort of ironic that the "great minds" behind personal sanctions thought it would help tighten the screws on Putin. Quite the opposite. It has shown wealthy Russians with legitimate businesses in the West that their money is not safe in the West.
Sure, sure. Maybe the Russian UN Ambassador can make an appeal and ask that anyone working for Russia is given amnesty for all crimes and legal immunity? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9LfMrqO_tA Do you really think Russians and people working with Russia will be loved and embraced by the World after what it did in Ukraine? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpYvDMlSEGo What magical thinking! Only the Russians who stood up for Ukraine deserve salvation.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The Pavel Durov saga should be instructive to Ukrainians. The West was happy to use him as a catspaw against Russia, contrasting the "authoritarian" Russian meddling with Western "freedom."
Once he outlived his usefulness, the hammer comes down. Discarded and off to the gulag because he didn't give someone something they wanted, all the past laurels forgotten.
He probably thought he would be told "well done good and faithful servant." But like Ukraine, he picked the side that discards its minions as soon as they are done with them
Actually what his saga demonstrates is that the West will always treat you like a Russian when the hammer comes down. It doesn't matter that you were raised in Italy, are a citizen of UAE, France and god knows how many other countries, a bona fide prodigy and a billionaire. The West offers no safe haven, only an illusion of it. It's sort of ironic that the "great minds" behind personal sanctions thought it would help tighten the screws on Putin. Quite the opposite. It has shown wealthy Russians with legitimate businesses in the West that their money is not safe in the West.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The Pavel Durov saga should be instructive to Ukrainians. The West was happy to use him as a catspaw against Russia, contrasting the "authoritarian" Russian meddling with Western "freedom."
Once he outlived his usefulness, the hammer comes down. Discarded and off to the gulag because he didn't give someone something they wanted, all the past laurels forgotten.
He probably thought he would be told "well done good and faithful servant." But like Ukraine, he picked the side that discards its minions as soon as they are done with them
Actually what his saga demonstrates is that the West will always treat you like a Russian when the hammer comes down. It doesn't matter that you were raised in Italy, are a citizen of UAE, France and god knows how many other countries, a bona fide prodigy and a billionaire. The West offers no safe haven, only an illusion of it. It's sort of ironic that the "great minds" behind personal sanctions thought it would help tighten the screws on Putin. Quite the opposite. It has shown wealthy Russians with legitimate businesses in the West that their money is not safe in the West.
Anonymous wrote:The Pavel Durov saga should be instructive to Ukrainians. The West was happy to use him as a catspaw against Russia, contrasting the "authoritarian" Russian meddling with Western "freedom."
Once he outlived his usefulness, the hammer comes down. Discarded and off to the gulag because he didn't give someone something they wanted, all the past laurels forgotten.
He probably thought he would be told "well done good and faithful servant." But like Ukraine, he picked the side that discards its minions as soon as they are done with them
Anonymous wrote:The Pavel Durov saga should be instructive to Ukrainians. The West was happy to use him as a catspaw against Russia, contrasting the "authoritarian" Russian meddling with Western "freedom."
Once he outlived his usefulness, the hammer comes down. Discarded and off to the gulag because he didn't give someone something they wanted, all the past laurels forgotten.
He probably thought he would be told "well done good and faithful servant." But like Ukraine, he picked the side that discards its minions as soon as they are done with them
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They took out Russia's main ferry in Crimea. So now all supplies have to go by the bridge, which will probably be taken out again, or on the longer land corridor.
The mighty Internet Defense Force of Ukraine used to boast about killing millions of Russian soldiers, and sinking cruisers. Now they boast about sinking a civilian ferry. I guess you have to work with what you have, and all you have is low-level terrorism.