Anonymous
03/30/2015 09:15
Subject: PARCC monitoring student's social media, wants schools to "punish" them
Anonymous
03/30/2015 09:14
Subject: Re:PARCC monitoring student's social media, wants schools to "punish" them
Enter Fareed Zakaria. He grew up in another country and he appreciates how we educate our citizens here. Despite our low test scores, we do well in the "real world". Here are a couple of his paragraphs:
Common Core is destroying this. It is making us less flexible and making students less confident. It's a disaster. STOP THE MADNESS NOW. I just love it that the parents can see this (at least the ones who are critical thinkers) and are opting their kids out. It seems that we have a lot of critical thinkers who care about education in the New York City area. Not too surprised there. They will lead us out of this. Thankfully.
In truth, though, the United States has never done well on international tests, and they are not good predictors of our national success. Since 1964, when the first such exam was administered to 13-year-olds in 12 countries, America has lagged behind its peers, rarely rising above the middle of the pack and doing particularly poorly in science and math. And yet over these past five decades, that same laggard country has dominated the world of science, technology, research and innovation.
Consider the same pattern in two other highly innovative countries, Sweden and Israel. Israel ranks first in the world in venture-capital investments as a percentage of GDP; the United States ranks second, and Sweden is sixth, ahead of Great Britain and Germany. These nations do well by most measures of innovation, such as research and development spending and the number of high-tech companies as a percent of all public companies. Yet all three countries fare surprisingly poorly in the OECD rankings. Sweden and Israel performed even worse than the United States on the 2012 assessment, landing overall at 28th and 29th, respectively, among the 34 most-developed economies.
But other than bad test-takers, their economies have a few important traits in common: They are flexible. Their work cultures are non-hierarchical and merit-based. All operate like "young" countries, with energy and dynamism. All three are open societies, happy to let in the world's ideas, goods and services. And people in all three nations are confident — a characteristic that can be measured. Despite ranking 27th and 30th in math, respectively, American and Israeli students came out at the top in their belief in their math abilities, if one tallies up their responses to survey questions about their skills. Sweden came in seventh, even though its math ranking was 28th.
Common Core is destroying this. It is making us less flexible and making students less confident. It's a disaster. STOP THE MADNESS NOW. I just love it that the parents can see this (at least the ones who are critical thinkers) and are opting their kids out. It seems that we have a lot of critical thinkers who care about education in the New York City area. Not too surprised there. They will lead us out of this. Thankfully.
Anonymous
03/30/2015 09:12
Subject: Re:PARCC monitoring student's social media, wants schools to "punish" them
The tests are a requirement of the No Child Left Behind Act. This requirement existed before the Common Core standards were developed, and it exists in states that did not adopt the Common Core standards as well as in states that have disadopted the Common Core standards. If all of the states disadopted the Common Core standards tomorrow, the testing requirement would still exist. If you don't like the tests -- that is not a Common Core issue. It's a No Child Left Behind Act issue.
We ALL know that. However, the topic of this thread is PARCC. PARCC got buckets of money from the feds to develop and run tests for Common Core standards. That's the problem. And, no, it does not save money in the long run.
Anonymous
03/30/2015 09:05
Subject: Re:PARCC monitoring student's social media, wants schools to "punish" them
These standards are going to make little difference in raising everyone up. The standards are too narrow and they force everyone into the same classes.
Everyone learns so differently and has such different strengths. That was always America's greatness. It doesn't really matter if a ballerina can do calculus. Should she be blocked from pursuing the arts because her math skills aren't in the top 10 percent? Should she be blocked from going to college because she's not a STEM fanatic?
The should bring back vocational schools and drop the idea of everyone being at exactly the same place at the same time academically.
Could you please run for president?? You are spot on. I teach many students who have talents in the arts (music, but mostly visual arts), but have a hard time with math. They struggle and spend many hours on math when they could be devoting those hours to something they love that will actually be where they make money in the future. We are actually keeping them from honing their true strengths that are going to make America's economy better and their own productivity higher. Horrible. Why can't we enjoy school and life? Is that such a horrible thing? No, it's a wonderful thing.
Anonymous
03/30/2015 09:03
Subject: PARCC monitoring student's social media, wants schools to "punish" them
Anonymous wrote:
Unfortunately, it is my child that is paying the price. Common Core sucks for him, and all the children like him. They are the collateral damage and a sacrificial population is this stupid scheme.
Hope you are proud of yourself for promoting an educational gimmick that so profoundly harms so many.
Why?
Anonymous
03/30/2015 09:03
Subject: Re:PARCC monitoring student's social media, wants schools to "punish" them
Anonymous wrote:
You're the bomb!!! You're running circles around the CC lover. He loves those tests like his life depended on them. So sad.
The tests are a requirement of the No Child Left Behind Act. This requirement existed before the Common Core standards were developed, and it exists in states that did not adopt the Common Core standards as well as in states that have disadopted the Common Core standards. If all of the states disadopted the Common Core standards tomorrow, the testing requirement would still exist. If you don't like the tests -- that is not a Common Core issue. It's a No Child Left Behind Act issue.
Anonymous
03/30/2015 08:57
Subject: PARCC monitoring student's social media, wants schools to "punish" them
I think that the public level of concern regarding CC and the standardized tests is a great thing. Our democracy will not fail us (yet). Despite the gap in wealth and the billionaires of the world. I think most people (and certainly 99% of educators) agree that the testing is way out of control and that it does nothing positive for learning.
Anonymous
03/30/2015 08:48
Subject: Re:PARCC monitoring student's social media, wants schools to "punish" them
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
And the anti-CCers are starting to let slip through the cracks the truth that it's all about the union... or in the case of the Tea Party wackadoo, that it's all about right wing politics...
If you don't understand that there are a lot of politics behind Common Core on both the left and the right, then I feel sorry for you.
LOL! Sorry, NO. I've been saying from the start that the opposition is mainly all about politics as opposed to it being about education. And finally you've come around to admitting it.
+1000
Anonymous
03/30/2015 08:45
Subject: Re:PARCC monitoring student's social media, wants schools to "punish" them
Anonymous wrote:
Billions can be saved by not giving these tests at all. I know that's unthinkable for the federales. Their heads might explode if we don't have all this testing.
Billions could be saved by just shutting schools down altogether since you obviously don't give a shit about outcomes.
Yeah, you guys don't care about the kids!!! The tests are all about love for the kids!!! You certainly don't give a shit about outcomes because the CC is the sacred text for ensuring "outcomes".
And without the CC, we may as well shut down the schools. We went into teaching because we hate kids and schools.
Anonymous
03/30/2015 08:39
Subject: Re:PARCC monitoring student's social media, wants schools to "punish" them
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
To the apologist, if this many people/schools have "local" problems then it's a federal problem.
Who the FUCK do you see here "apologizing?"
NOBODY. You are DELUSIONAL.
To the illiterate, answer the following questions:
1. What is the definition of "apologist" in this thread?
a. Someone who apologizes
b. An asshole who makes excuses for a certain doctrine or ideological position
c. The name of an Olympic speed skater from Seattle
d. the wooden mallet used in the game of polo
2. Cite evidence from the text in this thread to support your answer.
You're the bomb!!! You're running circles around the CC lover. He loves those tests like his life depended on them. So sad.
Anonymous
03/30/2015 08:26
Subject: PARCC monitoring student's social media, wants schools to "punish" them
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:And the anti-CCers are starting to let slip through the cracks the truth that it's all about the union... or in the case of the Tea Party wackadoo, that it's all about right wing politics...
If you don't understand that there are a lot of politics behind Common Core on both the left and the right, then I feel sorry for you.
LOL! Sorry, NO. I've been saying from the start that the opposition is mainly all about politics as opposed to it being about education. And finally you've come around to admitting it.
Unfortunately, it is my child that is paying the price. Common Core sucks for him, and all the children like him. They are the collateral damage and a sacrificial population is this stupid scheme.
Hope you are proud of yourself for promoting an educational gimmick that so profoundly harms so many.
Anonymous
03/30/2015 08:16
Subject: PARCC monitoring student's social media, wants schools to "punish" them
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:And the anti-CCers are starting to let slip through the cracks the truth that it's all about the union... or in the case of the Tea Party wackadoo, that it's all about right wing politics...
If you don't understand that there are a lot of politics behind Common Core on both the left and the right, then I feel sorry for you.
LOL! Sorry, NO. I've been saying from the start that the opposition is mainly all about politics as opposed to it being about education. And finally you've come around to admitting it.
Anonymous
03/30/2015 07:04
Subject: PARCC monitoring student's social media, wants schools to "punish" them
Anonymous wrote:And the anti-CCers are starting to let slip through the cracks the truth that it's all about the union... or in the case of the Tea Party wackadoo, that it's all about right wing politics...
If you don't understand that there are a lot of politics behind Common Core on both the left and the right, then I feel sorry for you.
Anonymous
03/30/2015 07:01
Subject: PARCC monitoring student's social media, wants schools to "punish" them
Yeah. Rah rah. Common core. Rah rah. NCLB. Rah rah PARCC. This is what I want for my children. Best education money can buy.
Anonymous
03/30/2015 00:07
Subject: PARCC monitoring student's social media, wants schools to "punish" them
And the anti-CCers are starting to let slip through the cracks the truth that it's all about the union... or in the case of the Tea Party wackadoo, that it's all about right wing politics...