Anonymous wrote:
Why leave an Islamic nation - where you can practice your religion freely - and enter into a country where you always have to face questions?
I, too, sincerely would like to know the answer to that question.
Why leave an Islamic nation - where you can practice your religion freely - and enter into a country where you always have to face questions?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Muslima wrote:As a Muslim having family in Europe and the US and having lived in both, i'd like to say that American Muslims are way more integrated than their European counterparts. Say what you will about America, but at the end of the day, we remain a nation that not only tolerates but for the most part embraces our differences, our individualities, freedom to worship who we want, how we want. Yes, we are not perfect, and we still have our issues but we are still better than most, and we are still working to get better. And this is why, I as a Muslim love America and will choose it 100 times over France. And this is the sentiment of most American Muslims, while most European Muslims, at least the ones i spoke to felt misunderstood and marginalized by their governments. No wonder, most of the islamophobic cartoons and anti-islam movies were birthed in Europe!
How inviting are Islamic nations to the rest of the world?
That's the question you need to answer.
Why should SHE have to answer it? She doesn't represent Islamic nations, and has zero input into their immigration policies. Whatever they do, it's not on her.
And if you didn't quite get it, I'll give you a hint: she was complimenting the U.S. That means saying nice stuff.
uh huh
a compliment . . .
by putting down European nations for having an identity - just as ISLAMIC nations do
get it?
difference being Islamic nations are hostile to EVERYONE
France may not be a fan of any type of cover (from the hijab to the burqa). However, France - like most of the Western world - has freedom of speech - and OTHER freedoms that we take for granted.
So when in France . . .
At least women can hop in cars and drive to work - unlike in Saudi.
I repeat - what does she have to do with what Islamic nations do? Do you think she has any input into their policies? Or is somehow charged with explaining their wisdom to you?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Muslima wrote:As a Muslim having family in Europe and the US and having lived in both, i'd like to say that American Muslims are way more integrated than their European counterparts. Say what you will about America, but at the end of the day, we remain a nation that not only tolerates but for the most part embraces our differences, our individualities, freedom to worship who we want, how we want. Yes, we are not perfect, and we still have our issues but we are still better than most, and we are still working to get better. And this is why, I as a Muslim love America and will choose it 100 times over France. And this is the sentiment of most American Muslims, while most European Muslims, at least the ones i spoke to felt misunderstood and marginalized by their governments. No wonder, most of the islamophobic cartoons and anti-islam movies were birthed in Europe!
How inviting are Islamic nations to the rest of the world?
That's the question you need to answer.
Why should SHE have to answer it? She doesn't represent Islamic nations, and has zero input into their immigration policies. Whatever they do, it's not on her.
And if you didn't quite get it, I'll give you a hint: she was complimenting the U.S. That means saying nice stuff.
uh huh
a compliment . . .
by putting down European nations for having an identity - just as ISLAMIC nations do
get it?
difference being Islamic nations are hostile to EVERYONE
France may not be a fan of any type of cover (from the hijab to the burqa). However, France - like most of the Western world - has freedom of speech - and OTHER freedoms that we take for granted.
So when in France . . .
At least women can hop in cars and drive to work - unlike in Saudi.
Anonymous wrote:The west is always hung by its own standards - we are expected to be tolerant so when we fall short by one iota we are challenged. Thats why we now have creches featuring Satan at state houses at Christmas..isnt it lovely? Meanwhile, Saudi Arabia flogs bloggers.
France actually dared to say, u know what, as a nation we just don't like/are uncomfortable with this singular item of dress. Mind you, they have a long history of banning religious dress from any faith in certain institutions, and extended that to say no niqab in the institution that is our country. Now , beacue they don't actually flog bloggers and protect free speech to an extent (not total btw - very good post article on how many limits they have) people scream bloody murder they are hypocrites. You will never win this argument.
I'm beginning to think France should allow the niqab in public spaces, along with aggressive policing of these no go zones, checkpoints and stop and frisk for eveyone in Frances, niqab or no so the niwabis don't cry bloody murder. Isn't that the point jn secular western society these days - no one has a right to get along or be happy?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Muslima wrote:As a Muslim having family in Europe and the US and having lived in both, i'd like to say that American Muslims are way more integrated than their European counterparts. Say what you will about America, but at the end of the day, we remain a nation that not only tolerates but for the most part embraces our differences, our individualities, freedom to worship who we want, how we want. Yes, we are not perfect, and we still have our issues but we are still better than most, and we are still working to get better. And this is why, I as a Muslim love America and will choose it 100 times over France. And this is the sentiment of most American Muslims, while most European Muslims, at least the ones i spoke to felt misunderstood and marginalized by their governments. No wonder, most of the islamophobic cartoons and anti-islam movies were birthed in Europe!
How inviting are Islamic nations to the rest of the world?
That's the question you need to answer.
Why should SHE have to answer it? She doesn't represent Islamic nations, and has zero input into their immigration policies. Whatever they do, it's not on her.
And if you didn't quite get it, I'll give you a hint: she was complimenting the U.S. That means saying nice stuff.
+1Anonymous wrote:its called free speech. In case you hadn't noticed, that's what this whole topic is about.Anonymous wrote:I'm surprised all you rational people are putting up with this lady's S%$t for so long.
You want Muslims to repudiate terrorism. Here she is.
its called free speech. In case you hadn't noticed, that's what this whole topic is about.Anonymous wrote:I'm surprised all you rational people are putting up with this lady's S%$t for so long.
Anonymous wrote:Muslima wrote:As a Muslim having family in Europe and the US and having lived in both, i'd like to say that American Muslims are way more integrated than their European counterparts. Say what you will about America, but at the end of the day, we remain a nation that not only tolerates but for the most part embraces our differences, our individualities, freedom to worship who we want, how we want. Yes, we are not perfect, and we still have our issues but we are still better than most, and we are still working to get better. And this is why, I as a Muslim love America and will choose it 100 times over France. And this is the sentiment of most American Muslims, while most European Muslims, at least the ones i spoke to felt misunderstood and marginalized by their governments. No wonder, most of the islamophobic cartoons and anti-islam movies were birthed in Europe!
How inviting are Islamic nations to the rest of the world?
That's the question you need to answer.
Muslima wrote:Anonymous wrote:Muslima wrote:As a Muslim having family in Europe and the US and having lived in both, i'd like to say that American Muslims are way more integrated than their European counterparts. Say what you will about America, but at the end of the day, we remain a nation that not only tolerates but for the most part embraces our differences, our individualities, freedom to worship who we want, how we want. Yes, we are not perfect, and we still have our issues but we are still better than most, and we are still working to get better. And this is why, I as a Muslim love America and will choose it 100 times over France. And this is the sentiment of most American Muslims, while most European Muslims, at least the ones i spoke to felt misunderstood and marginalized by their governments. No wonder, most of the islamophobic cartoons and anti-islam movies were birthed in Europe!
Then why don't you sponsor your brother and the rest of your family so they can come here? We should open our borders to all the oppressed Muslims of Europe just as we are opening them to all the refugees from Central America. They will absolutely thrive here.
My brother is only in Paris temporarily, I don't think he will stay there forever. The rest of my family who lives there are citizens and do not wish to live anywhere else I guess, that's all they know, just like my family in the US is fully americanized and will probably not live anywhere else.
Anonymous wrote:Muslima wrote:As a Muslim having family in Europe and the US and having lived in both, i'd like to say that American Muslims are way more integrated than their European counterparts. Say what you will about America, but at the end of the day, we remain a nation that not only tolerates but for the most part embraces our differences, our individualities, freedom to worship who we want, how we want. Yes, we are not perfect, and we still have our issues but we are still better than most, and we are still working to get better. And this is why, I as a Muslim love America and will choose it 100 times over France. And this is the sentiment of most American Muslims, while most European Muslims, at least the ones i spoke to felt misunderstood and marginalized by their governments. No wonder, most of the islamophobic cartoons and anti-islam movies were birthed in Europe!
Then why don't you sponsor your brother and the rest of your family so they can come here? We should open our borders to all the oppressed Muslims of Europe just as we are opening them to all the refugees from Central America. They will absolutely thrive here.