Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Looks to me like you are afraid to meet with a muslim.
I grew up among them, married one, gave birth to one and am carrying another, you ninny. There's nothing remotely scary about most of them.
Any muslim man that married a woman with such rank hatred of his religion is probably going to be asked by Allah WHY he married you and allowed you to be responsible for raising muslim children. I want front seats for that questioning. One has to ask if he is a true Muslim.
That question is moot. In Islam, the child of a Muslim man is Muslim.
It's not like he has a real choice about it, especially in certain Muslim countries, where, if he found that Muslim beliefs didn't really fit him and he'd really be another religion or none at all, he'd be guilt of apostasy and subject to capital punishment. So yes he is Muslim but he may not buy into very little of it.
Thus he may feel very little compunction about marrying an intelligent woman who has the wit to question a certain tenets of his titular Islam and laughs with him about Muslim women who call into religion radio shows to ask if she can undress in a room where she thinks a male jinn may be present.
I am not the PP who is married to the Muslim and mother of two Muslims (one in utero).
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Looks to me like you are afraid to meet with a muslim.
I grew up among them, married one, gave birth to one and am carrying another, you ninny. There's nothing remotely scary about most of them.
Any muslim man that married a woman with such rank hatred of his religion is probably going to be asked by Allah WHY he married you and allowed you to be responsible for raising muslim children. I want front seats for that questioning. One has to ask if he is a true Muslim.
That question is moot. In Islam, the child of a Muslim man is Muslim.
It's not like he has a real choice about it, especially in certain Muslim countries, where, if he found that Muslim beliefs didn't really fit him and he'd really be another religion or none at all, he'd be guilt of apostasy and subject to capital punishment. So yes he is Muslim but he may not buy into very little of it.
Thus he may feel very little compunction about marrying an intelligent woman who has the wit to question a certain tenets of his titular Islam and laughs with him about Muslim women who call into religion radio shows to ask if she can undress in a room where she thinks a male jinn may be present.
I am not the PP who is married to the Muslim and mother of two Muslims (one in utero).
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Looks to me like you are afraid to meet with a muslim.
I grew up among them, married one, gave birth to one and am carrying another, you ninny. There's nothing remotely scary about most of them.
Any muslim man that married a woman with such rank hatred of his religion is probably going to be asked by Allah WHY he married you and allowed you to be responsible for raising muslim children. I want front seats for that questioning. One has to ask if he is a true Muslim.
Anonymous wrote:My favorite Muslim conversion ploy: "We revere Jesus too!" (But we're not going to tell you that our Jesus preaches a message of eye-for-eye justice and vengeance).
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Looks to me like you are afraid to meet with a muslim.
I grew up among them, married one, gave birth to one and am carrying another, you ninny. There's nothing remotely scary about most of them.
Anonymous wrote:Muslima wrote:
Nah, you got it all wrong. Religion/Belief has nothing to do with logic or science, it is faith-based and it is a CHOICE, there is nothing logical about it. We all choose to believe in what we want and so you totally lost the point of what I meant in that first post. I added the statement "That's where Faith comes in" to show that regardless of how illogical something is to me, it is totally believable to someone else who has "faith" in it. Just like my beliefs can look totally illogical to someone else, but I have "Faith" and total confidence in them. The only person I need to convince is Me, Myself and I. What the rest believes doesn't keep me up ! night~
If you were so much about "I'm OK, you're OK" thing, you wouldn't have tried to put down other people's beliefs by the whole "nature likes to keep it within species" remark. That's the point of MY post that I believe you missed. The miracles of your own faith are believable to you; the miracles of other people's faiths are illogical.
Muslima wrote:
Nah, you got it all wrong. Religion/Belief has nothing to do with logic or science, it is faith-based and it is a CHOICE, there is nothing logical about it. We all choose to believe in what we want and so you totally lost the point of what I meant in that first post. I added the statement "That's where Faith comes in" to show that regardless of how illogical something is to me, it is totally believable to someone else who has "faith" in it. Just like my beliefs can look totally illogical to someone else, but I have "Faith" and total confidence in them. The only person I need to convince is Me, Myself and I. What the rest believes doesn't keep me up ! night~
Anonymous wrote:Muslima wrote:Anonymous wrote:Muslima wrote:Anonymous wrote:If you wanna believe women can give birth without men, then believing they give birth to children of god ain't too much of a stretch.
Might not be for you, if in "your" world, men, women, gods, all the same, no difference! But hey since the beginning of time, animals have not given birth to humans, or humans to animals, see nature likes to keep it within species, but hey that's where Faith comes in. To each, their own~
Faith is cool. Believe what you like. Just don't try to sell it as fact.
I think religious statements are factual to those who believe in them. I don't believe in selling beliefs/religion, or anything else for that matter ( I don't like salespeople). Not all facts are scientific facts, the claim that I am typing this now, unseen by anyone, will occur in no scientific paper, but it is a hard fact![]()
That's why I think religious people are funny. They believe in faith and miracles when it fits their story. And when it doesn't, then come out, facts and science! That a woman could give birth immaculately - no problem, god can do anything. That a woman could give birth to son of god - ooh, no, don't you know nature keeps reproduction within species! Suddenly, it's hello logic!
Muslima wrote:Anonymous wrote:Muslima wrote:Anonymous wrote:If you wanna believe women can give birth without men, then believing they give birth to children of god ain't too much of a stretch.
Might not be for you, if in "your" world, men, women, gods, all the same, no difference! But hey since the beginning of time, animals have not given birth to humans, or humans to animals, see nature likes to keep it within species, but hey that's where Faith comes in. To each, their own~
Faith is cool. Believe what you like. Just don't try to sell it as fact.
I think religious statements are factual to those who believe in them. I don't believe in selling beliefs/religion, or anything else for that matter ( I don't like salespeople). Not all facts are scientific facts, the claim that I am typing this now, unseen by anyone, will occur in no scientific paper, but it is a hard fact![]()
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If you wanna believe women can give birth without men, then believing they give birth to children of god ain't too much of a stretch.
Why would a God need a human woman to create a son?
Anonymous wrote:Muslima wrote:
What?? You are you scared to share your beliefs?I have no desire/time to "prove you wrong" as I am pretty confident and happy in what I believe. Really, I was just genuinely curious about what you believe, but I certainly won't lose sleep over it~
I believe I look fabulous in blue. Beyond that, who the hell knows.
Anonymous wrote:Muslima wrote:Anonymous wrote:If you wanna believe women can give birth without men, then believing they give birth to children of god ain't too much of a stretch.
Might not be for you, if in "your" world, men, women, gods, all the same, no difference! But hey since the beginning of time, animals have not given birth to humans, or humans to animals, see nature likes to keep it within species, but hey that's where Faith comes in. To each, their own~
Faith is cool. Believe what you like. Just don't try to sell it as fact.
Muslima wrote:
What?? You are you scared to share your beliefs?I have no desire/time to "prove you wrong" as I am pretty confident and happy in what I believe. Really, I was just genuinely curious about what you believe, but I certainly won't lose sleep over it~
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If you wanna believe women can give birth without men, then believing they give birth to children of god ain't too much of a stretch.
Why would a God need a human woman to create a son?
Anonymous wrote:If you wanna believe women can give birth without men, then believing they give birth to children of god ain't too much of a stretch.