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Anonymous wrote:Did people see this?

https://www.northshoreunited.org/

Yeah, if you'd like, there are 8 clubs now that say "grade" is a factor but THE factor.

Yeah, if you'd like, there are 8 clubs now that say "grade" is a factor but NOT THE factor. (Sorry typo)

Can add https://spokanesounders.org/u-s-soccer-age-group-change-what-it-means-for-spokane-shadow/. "Our philosophy remains the same: most players develop best in their true age group." And like many others, they have flexibility.

And a pretty good read here on a timeless piece if you are thinking your child should play up where they say it depends on the kid and using grade is a bad reason, https://changingthegameproject.com/child-play-dos-donts-moving-kids-older-age-groups/

Hahaha...

Directly from your Sounders link. Pretty obvious that they plan to group by grade but dont want to say it directly to allow for flexibility.

"What if my player’s birthdate and school grade don’t align?
We know some players, especially those with August or early-September birthdays, may not align perfectly with their grade level because Spokane schools start around September 1.

Our directors will review each situation case by case to find the best developmental and social fit for each player. The goal is always to keep kids challenged and comfortable, whether that means staying with classmates or training within their natural age group.

If your child’s birthdate and grade year don’t align, we encourage you to contact your director right away so they can conduct a proper audit."

Yes, their rec leagues will lean grade but travel is to make the best teams, "On our most competitive teams, we form the strongest possible age-specific pools.
On neighborhood-based teams, placement may occasionally reflect family or community factors."

So grouping by age with flexibility.

So you're saying that on their most competitive teams they plan to roster Aug/Sept players down a grade so they cant get recruited.

It will be fun to see all the traction this will get with parents.

It depends on whether the parent is like or like many of the folks here who see a lot more nuance when it comes to development.

Yea most parents appreciate clubs setting up their kids into a situation where they get ignored by college recruiters.

Sounds like a reasonable thing to do.

The constant whacks on the head are hilarious. I don't understand why people are arguing against college recruitment.

I don't understand why someone doesn't think playing on age at a top tier club is a bad idea, especially when there's multiple ways to get recruited beyond whatever team you are currently on. It's all so fluid and has the potential to change every year and at non-team events, such as showcases, ID camps and combines. Simply put, you get yourself on the best team you can and go from there.

Sure, playing with your grade or higher is probably better than not, but the dude here trying to pigeonhole people into a box of grade doesn't see the forest of opportunity that exists and different pathways people take.

What you dont understand is that top tier clubs have queues 5-10 players deep for each position at every age group. This means they wont waste their time developing an Aug/Sept player that's playing down a grade in school. They have plenty of talent avaliable playing their grade in school.

Playing down a grade in school is a dead end for players, clubs, and other players/parents that will end up resenting the player playing down.

This isn't a unique to soccer, you know. Fun chat about this in baseball on Reddit, even includes your side but again that's not the only side: https://www.reddit.com/r/Homeplate/comments/1ojju8s/how_important_is_it_to_play_with_grade_level_vs/

I don't believe in playing down.

But, the reason playing down, redshirting, regarding, being held back, whatever you want to call it works in other sports is because players grade in school and level they play at are in alignment.

Aug/Sept players playing down in SY are out of alignment with their grade in school. This tells recruiters that this player is likely a trojan horse. You can get around this by holding your kid back in school. This would align the club team they play on with their grade in school. The problem with this is its a can of worms that leagues dont want to get involved in. Nobody wants to be the reason some crazy parent is holding their kid back in school.

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Anonymous wrote:Did people see this?

https://www.northshoreunited.org/

Yeah, if you'd like, there are 8 clubs now that say "grade" is a factor but THE factor.

Yeah, if you'd like, there are 8 clubs now that say "grade" is a factor but NOT THE factor. (Sorry typo)

Can add https://spokanesounders.org/u-s-soccer-age-group-change-what-it-means-for-spokane-shadow/. "Our philosophy remains the same: most players develop best in their true age group." And like many others, they have flexibility.

And a pretty good read here on a timeless piece if you are thinking your child should play up where they say it depends on the kid and using grade is a bad reason, https://changingthegameproject.com/child-play-dos-donts-moving-kids-older-age-groups/

Hahaha...

Directly from your Sounders link. Pretty obvious that they plan to group by grade but dont want to say it directly to allow for flexibility.

"What if my player’s birthdate and school grade don’t align?
We know some players, especially those with August or early-September birthdays, may not align perfectly with their grade level because Spokane schools start around September 1.

Our directors will review each situation case by case to find the best developmental and social fit for each player. The goal is always to keep kids challenged and comfortable, whether that means staying with classmates or training within their natural age group.

If your child’s birthdate and grade year don’t align, we encourage you to contact your director right away so they can conduct a proper audit."

Yes, their rec leagues will lean grade but travel is to make the best teams, "On our most competitive teams, we form the strongest possible age-specific pools.
On neighborhood-based teams, placement may occasionally reflect family or community factors."

So grouping by age with flexibility.

So you're saying that on their most competitive teams they plan to roster Aug/Sept players down a grade so they cant get recruited.

It will be fun to see all the traction this will get with parents.

It depends on whether the parent is like or like many of the folks here who see a lot more nuance when it comes to development.

Yea most parents appreciate clubs setting up their kids into a situation where they get ignored by college recruiters.

Sounds like a reasonable thing to do.

The constant whacks on the head are hilarious. I don't understand why people are arguing against college recruitment.

I don't understand why someone doesn't think playing on age at a top tier club is a bad idea, especially when there's multiple ways to get recruited beyond whatever team you are currently on. It's all so fluid and has the potential to change every year and at non-team events, such as showcases, ID camps and combines. Simply put, you get yourself on the best team you can and go from there.

Sure, playing with your grade or higher is probably better than not, but the dude here trying to pigeonhole people into a box of grade doesn't see the forest of opportunity that exists and different pathways people take.

What you dont understand is that top tier clubs have queues 5-10 players deep for each position at every age group. This means they wont waste their time developing an Aug/Sept player that's playing down a grade in school. They have plenty of talent avaliable playing their grade in school.

Playing down a grade in school is a dead end for players, clubs, and other players/parents that will end up resenting the player playing down.

To add a little more. Pathways to higher level play aren't choose your adventure books. Every level is a competition to be the top player. Every time you jump up to the next level some are left behind. Eventually the ones left are the best of the best.

If Aug/Sept players choose to play down a grade they're making the jump to the next level up (college in this case) 100x harder to do. Even if you do make it to college when playing down it won't be a top team. Which means you'll need to transfer portal to a better school if you want to play at the next level.

Im not trying to imply that every kid will play professionally if they do X Y and Z. I am saying that if youth clubs dont set players up in the best possible way to get recruited for playing in college its much more difficult.

Its not magic that some clubs are able to consistantly produce high level talent. But policies like not allowing Aug/Sept birthdays to play down greatly increase their chances.

I'm not sure that it would. It may just fast-track them out of the sport, instead. You shouldn't force up a kid an age group until they are ready otherwise you set up them up for failure.

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Anonymous wrote:Did people see this?

https://www.northshoreunited.org/

Yeah, if you'd like, there are 8 clubs now that say "grade" is a factor but THE factor.

Yeah, if you'd like, there are 8 clubs now that say "grade" is a factor but NOT THE factor. (Sorry typo)

Can add https://spokanesounders.org/u-s-soccer-age-group-change-what-it-means-for-spokane-shadow/. "Our philosophy remains the same: most players develop best in their true age group." And like many others, they have flexibility.

And a pretty good read here on a timeless piece if you are thinking your child should play up where they say it depends on the kid and using grade is a bad reason, https://changingthegameproject.com/child-play-dos-donts-moving-kids-older-age-groups/

Hahaha...

Directly from your Sounders link. Pretty obvious that they plan to group by grade but dont want to say it directly to allow for flexibility.

"What if my player’s birthdate and school grade don’t align?
We know some players, especially those with August or early-September birthdays, may not align perfectly with their grade level because Spokane schools start around September 1.

Our directors will review each situation case by case to find the best developmental and social fit for each player. The goal is always to keep kids challenged and comfortable, whether that means staying with classmates or training within their natural age group.

If your child’s birthdate and grade year don’t align, we encourage you to contact your director right away so they can conduct a proper audit."

Yes, their rec leagues will lean grade but travel is to make the best teams, "On our most competitive teams, we form the strongest possible age-specific pools.
On neighborhood-based teams, placement may occasionally reflect family or community factors."

So grouping by age with flexibility.

So you're saying that on their most competitive teams they plan to roster Aug/Sept players down a grade so they cant get recruited.

It will be fun to see all the traction this will get with parents.

It depends on whether the parent is like or like many of the folks here who see a lot more nuance when it comes to development.

Yea most parents appreciate clubs setting up their kids into a situation where they get ignored by college recruiters.

Sounds like a reasonable thing to do.

The constant whacks on the head are hilarious. I don't understand why people are arguing against college recruitment.

I don't understand why someone doesn't think playing on age at a top tier club is a bad idea, especially when there's multiple ways to get recruited beyond whatever team you are currently on. It's all so fluid and has the potential to change every year and at non-team events, such as showcases, ID camps and combines. Simply put, you get yourself on the best team you can and go from there.

Sure, playing with your grade or higher is probably better than not, but the dude here trying to pigeonhole people into a box of grade doesn't see the forest of opportunity that exists and different pathways people take.

What you dont understand is that top tier clubs have queues 5-10 players deep for each position at every age group. This means they wont waste their time developing an Aug/Sept player that's playing down a grade in school. They have plenty of talent avaliable playing their grade in school.

Playing down a grade in school is a dead end for players, clubs, and other players/parents that will end up resenting the player playing down.

To add a little more. Pathways to higher level play aren't choose your adventure books. Every level is a competition to be the top player. Every time you jump up to the next level some are left behind. Eventually the ones left are the best of the best.

If Aug/Sept players choose to play down a grade they're making the jump to the next level up (college in this case) 100x harder to do. Even if you do make it to college when playing down it won't be a top team. Which means you'll need to transfer portal to a better school if you want to play at the next level.

Im not trying to imply that every kid will play professionally if they do X Y and Z. I am saying that if youth clubs dont set players up in the best possible way to get recruited for playing in college its much more difficult.

Its not magic that some clubs are able to consistantly produce high level talent. But policies like not allowing Aug/Sept birthdays to play down greatly increase their chances.

No, the path from playing up as the youngest when your skills aren't ready is the true dead end. 2 sides to the coin.

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Anonymous wrote:Did people see this?

https://www.northshoreunited.org/

Yeah, if you'd like, there are 8 clubs now that say "grade" is a factor but THE factor.

Yeah, if you'd like, there are 8 clubs now that say "grade" is a factor but NOT THE factor. (Sorry typo)

Can add https://spokanesounders.org/u-s-soccer-age-group-change-what-it-means-for-spokane-shadow/. "Our philosophy remains the same: most players develop best in their true age group." And like many others, they have flexibility.

And a pretty good read here on a timeless piece if you are thinking your child should play up where they say it depends on the kid and using grade is a bad reason, https://changingthegameproject.com/child-play-dos-donts-moving-kids-older-age-groups/

Hahaha...

Directly from your Sounders link. Pretty obvious that they plan to group by grade but dont want to say it directly to allow for flexibility.

"What if my player’s birthdate and school grade don’t align?
We know some players, especially those with August or early-September birthdays, may not align perfectly with their grade level because Spokane schools start around September 1.

Our directors will review each situation case by case to find the best developmental and social fit for each player. The goal is always to keep kids challenged and comfortable, whether that means staying with classmates or training within their natural age group.

If your child’s birthdate and grade year don’t align, we encourage you to contact your director right away so they can conduct a proper audit."

Yes, their rec leagues will lean grade but travel is to make the best teams, "On our most competitive teams, we form the strongest possible age-specific pools.
On neighborhood-based teams, placement may occasionally reflect family or community factors."

So grouping by age with flexibility.

So you're saying that on their most competitive teams they plan to roster Aug/Sept players down a grade so they cant get recruited.

It will be fun to see all the traction this will get with parents.

It depends on whether the parent is like or like many of the folks here who see a lot more nuance when it comes to development.

Yea most parents appreciate clubs setting up their kids into a situation where they get ignored by college recruiters.

Sounds like a reasonable thing to do.

The constant whacks on the head are hilarious. I don't understand why people are arguing against college recruitment.

I don't understand why someone doesn't think playing on age at a top tier club is a bad idea, especially when there's multiple ways to get recruited beyond whatever team you are currently on. It's all so fluid and has the potential to change every year and at non-team events, such as showcases, ID camps and combines. Simply put, you get yourself on the best team you can and go from there.

Sure, playing with your grade or higher is probably better than not, but the dude here trying to pigeonhole people into a box of grade doesn't see the forest of opportunity that exists and different pathways people take.

What you dont understand is that top tier clubs have queues 5-10 players deep for each position at every age group. This means they wont waste their time developing an Aug/Sept player that's playing down a grade in school. They have plenty of talent avaliable playing their grade in school.

Playing down a grade in school is a dead end for players, clubs, and other players/parents that will end up resenting the player playing down.

To add a little more. Pathways to higher level play aren't choose your adventure books. Every level is a competition to be the top player. Every time you jump up to the next level some are left behind. Eventually the ones left are the best of the best.

If Aug/Sept players choose to play down a grade they're making the jump to the next level up (college in this case) 100x harder to do. Even if you do make it to college when playing down it won't be a top team. Which means you'll need to transfer portal to a better school if you want to play at the next level.

Im not trying to imply that every kid will play professionally if they do X Y and Z. I am saying that if youth clubs dont set players up in the best possible way to get recruited for playing in college its much more difficult.

Its not magic that some clubs are able to consistantly produce high level talent. But policies like not allowing Aug/Sept birthdays to play down greatly increase their chances.

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Anonymous wrote:Did people see this?

https://www.northshoreunited.org/

Yeah, if you'd like, there are 8 clubs now that say "grade" is a factor but THE factor.

Yeah, if you'd like, there are 8 clubs now that say "grade" is a factor but NOT THE factor. (Sorry typo)

Can add https://spokanesounders.org/u-s-soccer-age-group-change-what-it-means-for-spokane-shadow/. "Our philosophy remains the same: most players develop best in their true age group." And like many others, they have flexibility.

And a pretty good read here on a timeless piece if you are thinking your child should play up where they say it depends on the kid and using grade is a bad reason, https://changingthegameproject.com/child-play-dos-donts-moving-kids-older-age-groups/

Hahaha...

Directly from your Sounders link. Pretty obvious that they plan to group by grade but dont want to say it directly to allow for flexibility.

"What if my player’s birthdate and school grade don’t align?
We know some players, especially those with August or early-September birthdays, may not align perfectly with their grade level because Spokane schools start around September 1.

Our directors will review each situation case by case to find the best developmental and social fit for each player. The goal is always to keep kids challenged and comfortable, whether that means staying with classmates or training within their natural age group.

If your child’s birthdate and grade year don’t align, we encourage you to contact your director right away so they can conduct a proper audit."

Yes, their rec leagues will lean grade but travel is to make the best teams, "On our most competitive teams, we form the strongest possible age-specific pools.
On neighborhood-based teams, placement may occasionally reflect family or community factors."

So grouping by age with flexibility.

So you're saying that on their most competitive teams they plan to roster Aug/Sept players down a grade so they cant get recruited.

It will be fun to see all the traction this will get with parents.

It depends on whether the parent is like or like many of the folks here who see a lot more nuance when it comes to development.

Yea most parents appreciate clubs setting up their kids into a situation where they get ignored by college recruiters.

Sounds like a reasonable thing to do.

The constant whacks on the head are hilarious. I don't understand why people are arguing against college recruitment.

I don't understand why someone doesn't think playing on age at a top tier club is a bad idea, especially when there's multiple ways to get recruited beyond whatever team you are currently on. It's all so fluid and has the potential to change every year and at non-team events, such as showcases, ID camps and combines. Simply put, you get yourself on the best team you can and go from there.

Sure, playing with your grade or higher is probably better than not, but the dude here trying to pigeonhole people into a box of grade doesn't see the forest of opportunity that exists and different pathways people take.

What you dont understand is that top tier clubs have queues 5-10 players deep for each position at every age group. This means they wont waste their time developing an Aug/Sept player that's playing down a grade in school. They have plenty of talent avaliable playing their grade in school.

Playing down a grade in school is a dead end for players, clubs, and other players/parents that will end up resenting the player playing down.

This isn't a unique to soccer, you know. Fun chat about this in baseball on Reddit, even includes your side but again that's not the only side: https://www.reddit.com/r/Homeplate/comments/1ojju8s/how_important_is_it_to_play_with_grade_level_vs/

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Anonymous wrote:Did people see this?

https://www.northshoreunited.org/

Yeah, if you'd like, there are 8 clubs now that say "grade" is a factor but THE factor.

Yeah, if you'd like, there are 8 clubs now that say "grade" is a factor but NOT THE factor. (Sorry typo)

Can add https://spokanesounders.org/u-s-soccer-age-group-change-what-it-means-for-spokane-shadow/. "Our philosophy remains the same: most players develop best in their true age group." And like many others, they have flexibility.

And a pretty good read here on a timeless piece if you are thinking your child should play up where they say it depends on the kid and using grade is a bad reason, https://changingthegameproject.com/child-play-dos-donts-moving-kids-older-age-groups/

Hahaha...

Directly from your Sounders link. Pretty obvious that they plan to group by grade but dont want to say it directly to allow for flexibility.

"What if my player’s birthdate and school grade don’t align?
We know some players, especially those with August or early-September birthdays, may not align perfectly with their grade level because Spokane schools start around September 1.

Our directors will review each situation case by case to find the best developmental and social fit for each player. The goal is always to keep kids challenged and comfortable, whether that means staying with classmates or training within their natural age group.

If your child’s birthdate and grade year don’t align, we encourage you to contact your director right away so they can conduct a proper audit."

Yes, their rec leagues will lean grade but travel is to make the best teams, "On our most competitive teams, we form the strongest possible age-specific pools.
On neighborhood-based teams, placement may occasionally reflect family or community factors."

So grouping by age with flexibility.

So you're saying that on their most competitive teams they plan to roster Aug/Sept players down a grade so they cant get recruited.

It will be fun to see all the traction this will get with parents.

It depends on whether the parent is like or like many of the folks here who see a lot more nuance when it comes to development.

Yea most parents appreciate clubs setting up their kids into a situation where they get ignored by college recruiters.

Sounds like a reasonable thing to do.

The constant whacks on the head are hilarious. I don't understand why people are arguing against college recruitment.

I don't understand why someone doesn't think playing on age at a top tier club is a bad idea, especially when there's multiple ways to get recruited beyond whatever team you are currently on. It's all so fluid and has the potential to change every year and at non-team events, such as showcases, ID camps and combines. Simply put, you get yourself on the best team you can and go from there.

Sure, playing with your grade or higher is probably better than not, but the dude here trying to pigeonhole people into a box of grade doesn't see the forest of opportunity that exists and different pathways people take.

What you dont understand is that top tier clubs have queues 5-10 players deep for each position at every age group. This means they wont waste their time developing an Aug/Sept player that's playing down a grade in school. They have plenty of talent avaliable playing their grade in school.

Playing down a grade in school is a dead end for players, clubs, and other players/parents that will end up resenting the player playing down.

To add a little more. Pathways to higher level play aren't choose your adventure books. Every level is a competition to be the top player. Every time you jump up to the next level some are left behind. Eventually the ones left are the best of the best.

If Aug/Sept players choose to play down a grade they're making the jump to the next level up (college in this case) 100x harder to do. Even if you do make it to college when playing down it won't be a top team. Which means you'll need to transfer portal to a better school if you want to play at the next level.

Im not trying to imply that every kid will play professionally if they do X Y and Z. I am saying that if youth clubs dont set players up in the best possible way to get recruited for playing in college its much more difficult.

Its not magic that some clubs are able to consistantly produce high level talent. But policies like not allowing Aug/Sept birthdays to play down greatly increase their chances.

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Anonymous wrote:Did people see this?

https://www.northshoreunited.org/

Yeah, if you'd like, there are 8 clubs now that say "grade" is a factor but THE factor.

Yeah, if you'd like, there are 8 clubs now that say "grade" is a factor but NOT THE factor. (Sorry typo)

Can add https://spokanesounders.org/u-s-soccer-age-group-change-what-it-means-for-spokane-shadow/. "Our philosophy remains the same: most players develop best in their true age group." And like many others, they have flexibility.

And a pretty good read here on a timeless piece if you are thinking your child should play up where they say it depends on the kid and using grade is a bad reason, https://changingthegameproject.com/child-play-dos-donts-moving-kids-older-age-groups/

Hahaha...

Directly from your Sounders link. Pretty obvious that they plan to group by grade but dont want to say it directly to allow for flexibility.

"What if my player’s birthdate and school grade don’t align?
We know some players, especially those with August or early-September birthdays, may not align perfectly with their grade level because Spokane schools start around September 1.

Our directors will review each situation case by case to find the best developmental and social fit for each player. The goal is always to keep kids challenged and comfortable, whether that means staying with classmates or training within their natural age group.

If your child’s birthdate and grade year don’t align, we encourage you to contact your director right away so they can conduct a proper audit."

Yes, their rec leagues will lean grade but travel is to make the best teams, "On our most competitive teams, we form the strongest possible age-specific pools.
On neighborhood-based teams, placement may occasionally reflect family or community factors."

So grouping by age with flexibility.

So you're saying that on their most competitive teams they plan to roster Aug/Sept players down a grade so they cant get recruited.

It will be fun to see all the traction this will get with parents.

It depends on whether the parent is like or like many of the folks here who see a lot more nuance when it comes to development.

Yea most parents appreciate clubs setting up their kids into a situation where they get ignored by college recruiters.

Sounds like a reasonable thing to do.

The constant whacks on the head are hilarious. I don't understand why people are arguing against college recruitment.

I don't understand why someone doesn't think playing on age at a top tier club is a bad idea, especially when there's multiple ways to get recruited beyond whatever team you are currently on. It's all so fluid and has the potential to change every year and at non-team events, such as showcases, ID camps and combines. Simply put, you get yourself on the best team you can and go from there.

Sure, playing with your grade or higher is probably better than not, but the dude here trying to pigeonhole people into a box of grade doesn't see the forest of opportunity that exists and different pathways people take.

What you dont understand is that top tier clubs have queues 5-10 players deep for each position at every age group. This means they wont waste their time developing an Aug/Sept player that's playing down a grade in school. They have plenty of talent avaliable playing their grade in school.

Playing down a grade in school is a dead end for players, clubs, and other players/parents that will end up resenting the player playing down.

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Anonymous wrote:Did people see this?

https://www.northshoreunited.org/

Yeah, if you'd like, there are 8 clubs now that say "grade" is a factor but THE factor.

Yeah, if you'd like, there are 8 clubs now that say "grade" is a factor but NOT THE factor. (Sorry typo)

Can add https://spokanesounders.org/u-s-soccer-age-group-change-what-it-means-for-spokane-shadow/. "Our philosophy remains the same: most players develop best in their true age group." And like many others, they have flexibility.

And a pretty good read here on a timeless piece if you are thinking your child should play up where they say it depends on the kid and using grade is a bad reason, https://changingthegameproject.com/child-play-dos-donts-moving-kids-older-age-groups/

Hahaha...

Directly from your Sounders link. Pretty obvious that they plan to group by grade but dont want to say it directly to allow for flexibility.

"What if my player’s birthdate and school grade don’t align?
We know some players, especially those with August or early-September birthdays, may not align perfectly with their grade level because Spokane schools start around September 1.

Our directors will review each situation case by case to find the best developmental and social fit for each player. The goal is always to keep kids challenged and comfortable, whether that means staying with classmates or training within their natural age group.

If your child’s birthdate and grade year don’t align, we encourage you to contact your director right away so they can conduct a proper audit."

Yes, their rec leagues will lean grade but travel is to make the best teams, "On our most competitive teams, we form the strongest possible age-specific pools.
On neighborhood-based teams, placement may occasionally reflect family or community factors."

So grouping by age with flexibility.

So you're saying that on their most competitive teams they plan to roster Aug/Sept players down a grade so they cant get recruited.

It will be fun to see all the traction this will get with parents.

It depends on whether the parent is like or like many of the folks here who see a lot more nuance when it comes to development.

Yea most parents appreciate clubs setting up their kids into a situation where they get ignored by college recruiters.

Sounds like a reasonable thing to do.

The constant whacks on the head are hilarious. I don't understand why people are arguing against college recruitment.

I don't understand why someone doesn't think playing on age at a top tier club is a bad idea, especially when there's multiple ways to get recruited beyond whatever team you are currently on. It's all so fluid and has the potential to change every year and at non-team events, such as showcases, ID camps and combines. Simply put, you get yourself on the best team you can and go from there.

Sure, playing with your grade or higher is probably better than not, but the dude here trying to pigeonhole people into a box of grade doesn't see the forest of opportunity that exists and different pathways people take.

What you dont understand is that top tier clubs have queues 5-10 players deep for each position at every age group. This means they wont waste their time developing an Aug/Sept player that's playing down a grade in school. They have plenty of talent avaliable playing their grade in school.

Playing down a grade in school is a dead end for players, clubs, and other players/parents that will end up resenting the player playing down.

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Anonymous wrote:Did people see this?

https://www.northshoreunited.org/

Yeah, if you'd like, there are 8 clubs now that say "grade" is a factor but THE factor.

Yeah, if you'd like, there are 8 clubs now that say "grade" is a factor but NOT THE factor. (Sorry typo)

Can add https://spokanesounders.org/u-s-soccer-age-group-change-what-it-means-for-spokane-shadow/. "Our philosophy remains the same: most players develop best in their true age group." And like many others, they have flexibility.

And a pretty good read here on a timeless piece if you are thinking your child should play up where they say it depends on the kid and using grade is a bad reason, https://changingthegameproject.com/child-play-dos-donts-moving-kids-older-age-groups/

Hahaha...

Directly from your Sounders link. Pretty obvious that they plan to group by grade but dont want to say it directly to allow for flexibility.

"What if my player’s birthdate and school grade don’t align?
We know some players, especially those with August or early-September birthdays, may not align perfectly with their grade level because Spokane schools start around September 1.

Our directors will review each situation case by case to find the best developmental and social fit for each player. The goal is always to keep kids challenged and comfortable, whether that means staying with classmates or training within their natural age group.

If your child’s birthdate and grade year don’t align, we encourage you to contact your director right away so they can conduct a proper audit."

Yes, their rec leagues will lean grade but travel is to make the best teams, "On our most competitive teams, we form the strongest possible age-specific pools.
On neighborhood-based teams, placement may occasionally reflect family or community factors."

So grouping by age with flexibility.

So you're saying that on their most competitive teams they plan to roster Aug/Sept players down a grade so they cant get recruited.

It will be fun to see all the traction this will get with parents.

It depends on whether the parent is like or like many of the folks here who see a lot more nuance when it comes to development.

Yea most parents appreciate clubs setting up their kids into a situation where they get ignored by college recruiters.

Sounds like a reasonable thing to do.

The constant whacks on the head are hilarious. I don't understand why people are arguing against college recruitment.

I think it's just a dumb, arrogant, win at all costs sports mentality. If they'd step back and think it's obvious you need to play with your grade in school to get recruited for college.

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Anonymous wrote:Did people see this?

https://www.northshoreunited.org/

Yeah, if you'd like, there are 8 clubs now that say "grade" is a factor but THE factor.

Yeah, if you'd like, there are 8 clubs now that say "grade" is a factor but NOT THE factor. (Sorry typo)

Can add https://spokanesounders.org/u-s-soccer-age-group-change-what-it-means-for-spokane-shadow/. "Our philosophy remains the same: most players develop best in their true age group." And like many others, they have flexibility.

And a pretty good read here on a timeless piece if you are thinking your child should play up where they say it depends on the kid and using grade is a bad reason, https://changingthegameproject.com/child-play-dos-donts-moving-kids-older-age-groups/

Hahaha...

Directly from your Sounders link. Pretty obvious that they plan to group by grade but dont want to say it directly to allow for flexibility.

"What if my player’s birthdate and school grade don’t align?
We know some players, especially those with August or early-September birthdays, may not align perfectly with their grade level because Spokane schools start around September 1.

Our directors will review each situation case by case to find the best developmental and social fit for each player. The goal is always to keep kids challenged and comfortable, whether that means staying with classmates or training within their natural age group.

If your child’s birthdate and grade year don’t align, we encourage you to contact your director right away so they can conduct a proper audit."

Yes, their rec leagues will lean grade but travel is to make the best teams, "On our most competitive teams, we form the strongest possible age-specific pools.
On neighborhood-based teams, placement may occasionally reflect family or community factors."

So grouping by age with flexibility.

So you're saying that on their most competitive teams they plan to roster Aug/Sept players down a grade so they cant get recruited.

It will be fun to see all the traction this will get with parents.

It depends on whether the parent is like or like many of the folks here who see a lot more nuance when it comes to development.

Yea most parents appreciate clubs setting up their kids into a situation where they get ignored by college recruiters.

Sounds like a reasonable thing to do.

The constant whacks on the head are hilarious. I don't understand why people are arguing against college recruitment.

I don't understand why someone doesn't think playing on age at a top tier club is a bad idea, especially when there's multiple ways to get recruited beyond whatever team you are currently on. It's all so fluid and has the potential to change every year and at non-team events, such as showcases, ID camps and combines. Simply put, you get yourself on the best team you can and go from there.

Sure, playing with your grade or higher is probably better than not, but the dude here trying to pigeonhole people into a box of grade doesn't see the forest of opportunity that exists and different pathways people take.

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did people see this?

https://www.northshoreunited.org/

Yeah, if you'd like, there are 8 clubs now that say "grade" is a factor but THE factor.

Yeah, if you'd like, there are 8 clubs now that say "grade" is a factor but NOT THE factor. (Sorry typo)

Can add https://spokanesounders.org/u-s-soccer-age-group-change-what-it-means-for-spokane-shadow/. "Our philosophy remains the same: most players develop best in their true age group." And like many others, they have flexibility.

And a pretty good read here on a timeless piece if you are thinking your child should play up where they say it depends on the kid and using grade is a bad reason, https://changingthegameproject.com/child-play-dos-donts-moving-kids-older-age-groups/

Hahaha...

Directly from your Sounders link. Pretty obvious that they plan to group by grade but dont want to say it directly to allow for flexibility.

"What if my player’s birthdate and school grade don’t align?
We know some players, especially those with August or early-September birthdays, may not align perfectly with their grade level because Spokane schools start around September 1.

Our directors will review each situation case by case to find the best developmental and social fit for each player. The goal is always to keep kids challenged and comfortable, whether that means staying with classmates or training within their natural age group.

If your child’s birthdate and grade year don’t align, we encourage you to contact your director right away so they can conduct a proper audit."

Yes, their rec leagues will lean grade but travel is to make the best teams, "On our most competitive teams, we form the strongest possible age-specific pools.
On neighborhood-based teams, placement may occasionally reflect family or community factors."

So grouping by age with flexibility.

So you're saying that on their most competitive teams they plan to roster Aug/Sept players down a grade so they cant get recruited.

It will be fun to see all the traction this will get with parents.

It depends on whether the parent is like or like many of the folks here who see a lot more nuance when it comes to development.

Yea most parents appreciate clubs setting up their kids into a situation where they get ignored by college recruiters.

Sounds like a reasonable thing to do.

The constant whacks on the head are hilarious. I don't understand why people are arguing against college recruitment.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did people see this?

https://www.northshoreunited.org/

Yeah, if you'd like, there are 8 clubs now that say "grade" is a factor but THE factor.

Yeah, if you'd like, there are 8 clubs now that say "grade" is a factor but NOT THE factor. (Sorry typo)

Can add https://spokanesounders.org/u-s-soccer-age-group-change-what-it-means-for-spokane-shadow/. "Our philosophy remains the same: most players develop best in their true age group." And like many others, they have flexibility.

And a pretty good read here on a timeless piece if you are thinking your child should play up where they say it depends on the kid and using grade is a bad reason, https://changingthegameproject.com/child-play-dos-donts-moving-kids-older-age-groups/

Hahaha...

Directly from your Sounders link. Pretty obvious that they plan to group by grade but dont want to say it directly to allow for flexibility.

"What if my player’s birthdate and school grade don’t align?
We know some players, especially those with August or early-September birthdays, may not align perfectly with their grade level because Spokane schools start around September 1.

Our directors will review each situation case by case to find the best developmental and social fit for each player. The goal is always to keep kids challenged and comfortable, whether that means staying with classmates or training within their natural age group.

If your child’s birthdate and grade year don’t align, we encourage you to contact your director right away so they can conduct a proper audit."

Yes, their rec leagues will lean grade but travel is to make the best teams, "On our most competitive teams, we form the strongest possible age-specific pools.
On neighborhood-based teams, placement may occasionally reflect family or community factors."

So grouping by age with flexibility.

So you're saying that on their most competitive teams they plan to roster Aug/Sept players down a grade so they cant get recruited.

It will be fun to see all the traction this will get with parents.

It depends on whether the parent is like or like many of the folks here who see a lot more nuance when it comes to development.

Yea most parents appreciate clubs setting up their kids into a situation where they get ignored by college recruiters.

Sounds like a reasonable thing to do.

The constant whacks on the head are hilarious. I don't understand why people are arguing against college recruitment.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did people see this?

https://www.northshoreunited.org/

Yeah, if you'd like, there are 8 clubs now that say "grade" is a factor but THE factor.

Yeah, if you'd like, there are 8 clubs now that say "grade" is a factor but NOT THE factor. (Sorry typo)

Can add https://spokanesounders.org/u-s-soccer-age-group-change-what-it-means-for-spokane-shadow/. "Our philosophy remains the same: most players develop best in their true age group." And like many others, they have flexibility.

And a pretty good read here on a timeless piece if you are thinking your child should play up where they say it depends on the kid and using grade is a bad reason, https://changingthegameproject.com/child-play-dos-donts-moving-kids-older-age-groups/

Hahaha...

Directly from your Sounders link. Pretty obvious that they plan to group by grade but dont want to say it directly to allow for flexibility.

"What if my player’s birthdate and school grade don’t align?
We know some players, especially those with August or early-September birthdays, may not align perfectly with their grade level because Spokane schools start around September 1.

Our directors will review each situation case by case to find the best developmental and social fit for each player. The goal is always to keep kids challenged and comfortable, whether that means staying with classmates or training within their natural age group.

If your child’s birthdate and grade year don’t align, we encourage you to contact your director right away so they can conduct a proper audit."

Yes, their rec leagues will lean grade but travel is to make the best teams, "On our most competitive teams, we form the strongest possible age-specific pools.
On neighborhood-based teams, placement may occasionally reflect family or community factors."

So grouping by age with flexibility.

So you're saying that on their most competitive teams they plan to roster Aug/Sept players down a grade so they cant get recruited.

It will be fun to see all the traction this will get with parents.

It depends on whether the parent is like or like many of the folks here who see a lot more nuance when it comes to development.

Yea most parents appreciate clubs setting up their kids into a situation where they get ignored by college recruiters.

Sounds like a reasonable thing to do.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did people see this?

https://www.northshoreunited.org/

Yeah, if you'd like, there are 8 clubs now that say "grade" is a factor but THE factor.

Yeah, if you'd like, there are 8 clubs now that say "grade" is a factor but NOT THE factor. (Sorry typo)

Can add https://spokanesounders.org/u-s-soccer-age-group-change-what-it-means-for-spokane-shadow/. "Our philosophy remains the same: most players develop best in their true age group." And like many others, they have flexibility.

And a pretty good read here on a timeless piece if you are thinking your child should play up where they say it depends on the kid and using grade is a bad reason, https://changingthegameproject.com/child-play-dos-donts-moving-kids-older-age-groups/

Hahaha...

Directly from your Sounders link. Pretty obvious that they plan to group by grade but dont want to say it directly to allow for flexibility.

"What if my player’s birthdate and school grade don’t align?
We know some players, especially those with August or early-September birthdays, may not align perfectly with their grade level because Spokane schools start around September 1.

Our directors will review each situation case by case to find the best developmental and social fit for each player. The goal is always to keep kids challenged and comfortable, whether that means staying with classmates or training within their natural age group.

If your child’s birthdate and grade year don’t align, we encourage you to contact your director right away so they can conduct a proper audit."

Yes, their rec leagues will lean grade but travel is to make the best teams, "On our most competitive teams, we form the strongest possible age-specific pools.
On neighborhood-based teams, placement may occasionally reflect family or community factors."

So grouping by age with flexibility.

So you're saying that on their most competitive teams they plan to roster Aug/Sept players down a grade so they cant get recruited.

It will be fun to see all the traction this will get with parents.

It depends on whether the parent is like or like many of the folks here who see a lot more nuance when it comes to development.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did people see this?

https://www.northshoreunited.org/

Yeah, if you'd like, there are 8 clubs now that say "grade" is a factor but THE factor.

Yeah, if you'd like, there are 8 clubs now that say "grade" is a factor but NOT THE factor. (Sorry typo)

Can add https://spokanesounders.org/u-s-soccer-age-group-change-what-it-means-for-spokane-shadow/. "Our philosophy remains the same: most players develop best in their true age group." And like many others, they have flexibility.

And a pretty good read here on a timeless piece if you are thinking your child should play up where they say it depends on the kid and using grade is a bad reason, https://changingthegameproject.com/child-play-dos-donts-moving-kids-older-age-groups/

Hahaha...

Directly from your Sounders link. Pretty obvious that they plan to group by grade but dont want to say it directly to allow for flexibility.

"What if my player’s birthdate and school grade don’t align?
We know some players, especially those with August or early-September birthdays, may not align perfectly with their grade level because Spokane schools start around September 1.

Our directors will review each situation case by case to find the best developmental and social fit for each player. The goal is always to keep kids challenged and comfortable, whether that means staying with classmates or training within their natural age group.

If your child’s birthdate and grade year don’t align, we encourage you to contact your director right away so they can conduct a proper audit."

Yes, their rec leagues will lean grade but travel is to make the best teams, "On our most competitive teams, we form the strongest possible age-specific pools.
On neighborhood-based teams, placement may occasionally reflect family or community factors."

So grouping by age with flexibility.

So you're saying that on their most competitive teams they plan to roster Aug/Sept players down a grade so they cant get recruited.

It will be fun to see all the traction this will get with parents.