Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think she was blacked out and realized she was so drunk after she came to on the couch that she suddenly wondered if she had somehow hit him or … who knows. I’m confused about the whole going into the after party thing. They must have gotten into a fight on the way there - they were all happy at the bar and her explanation about why she didn’t go in is odd. Also, if she was waiting for him to go in that was a super short wait? I honestly think if she hit him she just didn’t know. She was wasted. But I also don’t think she had any intent to kill him. She thought he was sleeping with someone else in her voicemails! She didn’t hit him on purpose. There’s no way. She’s guilty of maybe manslaughter at most and they have not established it.
You are either very late to the game, or you've not paid attention, or you are being disingenuous.
They were fighting ALL DAY LONG on the day before the early morning hours when she killed him. The moments briefly caught on video in the bars are John O'Keefe being polite and not trying to stir things up while they are out with friends. He had been trying to break it off with her for weeks, he had specifically asked her to leave his home and SHE HAD REFUSED TO LEAVE AND REFUSED TO BE BROKEN UP WITH. Surely you have enough life experience to grasp that such behavior from a 40-something woman is evidence of disordered thinking/personality? Karen flipped out Aruba after JOK left her with HIS kids for hours on end on NYE and he got hammered with a 26 year old. I would hope any 40 year old woman would be PO'd as well. I re-read the texts from earlier in the day John died. John asked Karen to come over. He was a crummy BF to be honest.
It took them 12 minutes to walk across the road from one bar to the other - more fighting. Source?
They sat in front of the house at 34 Fairview for several minutes after arrival, and the vehicle moved three times away from its first position close to the front door - MORE FIGHTING. Reasonable to assume they were discussing if they both go in, or if he sticks his head in and then he texts/calls to tell her to park and come in. She was having stomach issues
She started to pull away from the address in attempt to essentially kidnap him away from this afterparty and he demanded she let him out and he started walking back toward the address and that is when she backed into him and caused the injuries that ultimately caused his death. SHE INTENDED TO BACK INTO HIM. The data on her Lexus is clear that the reversing was an intended act of the driver of the vehicle. The data the CW can't get straight, oh, ok!
He was breaking up with her, and she killed him for it. If the genders were swapped in this incident, nobody would defend the domestic abuser boyfriend Kurt Read for running down and killing his girlfriend Josie O'Keefe. He'd have been sitting in an MCI facility for the last couple of years already.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think she was blacked out and realized she was so drunk after she came to on the couch that she suddenly wondered if she had somehow hit him or … who knows. I’m confused about the whole going into the after party thing. They must have gotten into a fight on the way there - they were all happy at the bar and her explanation about why she didn’t go in is odd. Also, if she was waiting for him to go in that was a super short wait? I honestly think if she hit him she just didn’t know. She was wasted. But I also don’t think she had any intent to kill him. She thought he was sleeping with someone else in her voicemails! She didn’t hit him on purpose. There’s no way. She’s guilty of maybe manslaughter at most and they have not established it.
Yep. This is the scenario that makes the most sense. There is no evidence that Mr. O’Keefe was hit by a car since his injuries didn’t comport with being struck.
Ridiculous.
Defendant's own ARCCA witness testified his injuries were consistent with being knocked down by a vehicle and sustaining fatal head injury.
Medical examiner testified his injuries were both inconsistent AND CONSISTENT with a pedestrian strike by motor vehicle - i.e., some such incidents result in anomalies re: injury pattern. She also testified, as did the treating ER physician, that he exhibited no signs of being in an altercation i.e. FIGHT.
His DNA on her tail light HOUSING. His hair frozen to the lift gate of the SUV. Tiny pieces of her tail light in his clothing.
OPEN YOUR EYES!
YOU ARE NOT A SERIOUS PERSON
I think that poster is very serious about their extremely strong feelings about this trial, and they feel especially strongly that they know who did it and how it happened. And they very much want to see a particular outcome to this trial. They appear to have very intense and personal feelings about this trial.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think she was blacked out and realized she was so drunk after she came to on the couch that she suddenly wondered if she had somehow hit him or … who knows. I’m confused about the whole going into the after party thing. They must have gotten into a fight on the way there - they were all happy at the bar and her explanation about why she didn’t go in is odd. Also, if she was waiting for him to go in that was a super short wait? I honestly think if she hit him she just didn’t know. She was wasted. But I also don’t think she had any intent to kill him. She thought he was sleeping with someone else in her voicemails! She didn’t hit him on purpose. There’s no way. She’s guilty of maybe manslaughter at most and they have not established it.
Yep. This is the scenario that makes the most sense. There is no evidence that Mr. O’Keefe was hit by a car since his injuries didn’t comport with being struck.
Ridiculous.
Defendant's own ARCCA witness testified his injuries were consistent with being knocked down by a vehicle and sustaining fatal head injury.
Medical examiner testified his injuries were both inconsistent AND CONSISTENT with a pedestrian strike by motor vehicle - i.e., some such incidents result in anomalies re: injury pattern. She also testified, as did the treating ER physician, that he exhibited no signs of being in an altercation i.e. FIGHT.
Both ARCCA individuals testified that they did not believe his injuries were consistent with being hit by a car.
Can I get a hit of what you're smoking?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The arm injuries, how were they made, through the hoodie? Are they sure they were from that night?
I think they line up with his arm wounds, no?
Anonymous wrote:The arm injuries, how were they made, through the hoodie? Are they sure they were from that night?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think she was blacked out and realized she was so drunk after she came to on the couch that she suddenly wondered if she had somehow hit him or … who knows. I’m confused about the whole going into the after party thing. They must have gotten into a fight on the way there - they were all happy at the bar and her explanation about why she didn’t go in is odd. Also, if she was waiting for him to go in that was a super short wait? I honestly think if she hit him she just didn’t know. She was wasted. But I also don’t think she had any intent to kill him. She thought he was sleeping with someone else in her voicemails! She didn’t hit him on purpose. There’s no way. She’s guilty of maybe manslaughter at most and they have not established it.
You are either very late to the game, or you've not paid attention, or you are being disingenuous.
They were fighting ALL DAY LONG on the day before the early morning hours when she killed him. The moments briefly caught on video in the bars are John O'Keefe being polite and not trying to stir things up while they are out with friends. He had been trying to break it off with her for weeks, he had specifically asked her to leave his home and SHE HAD REFUSED TO LEAVE AND REFUSED TO BE BROKEN UP WITH. Surely you have enough life experience to grasp that such behavior from a 40-something woman is evidence of disordered thinking/personality? Karen flipped out Aruba after JOK left her with HIS kids for hours on end on NYE and he got hammered with a 26 year old. I would hope any 40 year old woman would be PO'd as well. I re-read the texts from earlier in the day John died. John asked Karen to come over. He was a crummy BF to be honest.
It took them 12 minutes to walk across the road from one bar to the other - more fighting. Source?
They sat in front of the house at 34 Fairview for several minutes after arrival, and the vehicle moved three times away from its first position close to the front door - MORE FIGHTING. Reasonable to assume they were discussing if they both go in, or if he sticks his head in and then he texts/calls to tell her to park and come in. She was having stomach issues
She started to pull away from the address in attempt to essentially kidnap him away from this afterparty and he demanded she let him out and he started walking back toward the address and that is when she backed into him and caused the injuries that ultimately caused his death. SHE INTENDED TO BACK INTO HIM. The data on her Lexus is clear that the reversing was an intended act of the driver of the vehicle. The data the CW can't get straight, oh, ok!
He was breaking up with her, and she killed him for it. If the genders were swapped in this incident, nobody would defend the domestic abuser boyfriend Kurt Read for running down and killing his girlfriend Josie O'Keefe. He'd have been sitting in an MCI facility for the last couple of years already.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think she was blacked out and realized she was so drunk after she came to on the couch that she suddenly wondered if she had somehow hit him or … who knows. I’m confused about the whole going into the after party thing. They must have gotten into a fight on the way there - they were all happy at the bar and her explanation about why she didn’t go in is odd. Also, if she was waiting for him to go in that was a super short wait? I honestly think if she hit him she just didn’t know. She was wasted. But I also don’t think she had any intent to kill him. She thought he was sleeping with someone else in her voicemails! She didn’t hit him on purpose. There’s no way. She’s guilty of maybe manslaughter at most and they have not established it.
Yep. This is the scenario that makes the most sense. There is no evidence that Mr. O’Keefe was hit by a car since his injuries didn’t comport with being struck.
Ridiculous.
Defendant's own ARCCA witness testified his injuries were consistent with being knocked down by a vehicle and sustaining fatal head injury.
Medical examiner testified his injuries were both inconsistent AND CONSISTENT with a pedestrian strike by motor vehicle - i.e., some such incidents result in anomalies re: injury pattern. She also testified, as did the treating ER physician, that he exhibited no signs of being in an altercation i.e. FIGHT.
His DNA on her tail light HOUSING. His hair frozen to the lift gate of the SUV. Tiny pieces of her tail light in his clothing.
OPEN YOUR EYES!
YOU ARE NOT A SERIOUS PERSON
I think that poster is very serious about their extremely strong feelings about this trial, and they feel especially strongly that they know who did it and how it happened. And they very much want to see a particular outcome to this trial. They appear to have very intense and personal feelings about this trial.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think she was blacked out and realized she was so drunk after she came to on the couch that she suddenly wondered if she had somehow hit him or … who knows. I’m confused about the whole going into the after party thing. They must have gotten into a fight on the way there - they were all happy at the bar and her explanation about why she didn’t go in is odd. Also, if she was waiting for him to go in that was a super short wait? I honestly think if she hit him she just didn’t know. She was wasted. But I also don’t think she had any intent to kill him. She thought he was sleeping with someone else in her voicemails! She didn’t hit him on purpose. There’s no way. She’s guilty of maybe manslaughter at most and they have not established it.
Yep. This is the scenario that makes the most sense. There is no evidence that Mr. O’Keefe was hit by a car since his injuries didn’t comport with being struck.
Ridiculous.
Defendant's own ARCCA witness testified his injuries were consistent with being knocked down by a vehicle and sustaining fatal head injury.
Medical examiner testified his injuries were both inconsistent AND CONSISTENT with a pedestrian strike by motor vehicle - i.e., some such incidents result in anomalies re: injury pattern. She also testified, as did the treating ER physician, that he exhibited no signs of being in an altercation i.e. FIGHT.
His DNA on her tail light HOUSING. His hair frozen to the lift gate of the SUV. Tiny pieces of her tail light in his clothing.
OPEN YOUR EYES!
YOU ARE NOT A SERIOUS PERSON
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think she was blacked out and realized she was so drunk after she came to on the couch that she suddenly wondered if she had somehow hit him or … who knows. I’m confused about the whole going into the after party thing. They must have gotten into a fight on the way there - they were all happy at the bar and her explanation about why she didn’t go in is odd. Also, if she was waiting for him to go in that was a super short wait? I honestly think if she hit him she just didn’t know. She was wasted. But I also don’t think she had any intent to kill him. She thought he was sleeping with someone else in her voicemails! She didn’t hit him on purpose. There’s no way. She’s guilty of maybe manslaughter at most and they have not established it.
Yep. This is the scenario that makes the most sense. There is no evidence that Mr. O’Keefe was hit by a car since his injuries didn’t comport with being struck.
Ridiculous.
Defendant's own ARCCA witness testified his injuries were consistent with being knocked down by a vehicle and sustaining fatal head injury.
Medical examiner testified his injuries were both inconsistent AND CONSISTENT with a pedestrian strike by motor vehicle - i.e., some such incidents result in anomalies re: injury pattern. She also testified, as did the treating ER physician, that he exhibited no signs of being in an altercation i.e. FIGHT.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think she was blacked out and realized she was so drunk after she came to on the couch that she suddenly wondered if she had somehow hit him or … who knows. I’m confused about the whole going into the after party thing. They must have gotten into a fight on the way there - they were all happy at the bar and her explanation about why she didn’t go in is odd. Also, if she was waiting for him to go in that was a super short wait? I honestly think if she hit him she just didn’t know. She was wasted. But I also don’t think she had any intent to kill him. She thought he was sleeping with someone else in her voicemails! She didn’t hit him on purpose. There’s no way. She’s guilty of maybe manslaughter at most and they have not established it.
Yep. This is the scenario that makes the most sense. There is no evidence that Mr. O’Keefe was hit by a car since his injuries didn’t comport with being struck.
Ridiculous.
Defendant's own ARCCA witness testified his injuries were consistent with being knocked down by a vehicle and sustaining fatal head injury.
Medical examiner testified his injuries were both inconsistent AND CONSISTENT with a pedestrian strike by motor vehicle - i.e., some such incidents result in anomalies re: injury pattern. She also testified, as did the treating ER physician, that he exhibited no signs of being in an altercation i.e. FIGHT.
His DNA on her tail light HOUSING. His hair frozen to the lift gate of the SUV. Tiny pieces of her tail light in his clothing.
OPEN YOUR EYES!
YOU ARE NOT A SERIOUS PERSON
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think she was blacked out and realized she was so drunk after she came to on the couch that she suddenly wondered if she had somehow hit him or … who knows. I’m confused about the whole going into the after party thing. They must have gotten into a fight on the way there - they were all happy at the bar and her explanation about why she didn’t go in is odd. Also, if she was waiting for him to go in that was a super short wait? I honestly think if she hit him she just didn’t know. She was wasted. But I also don’t think she had any intent to kill him. She thought he was sleeping with someone else in her voicemails! She didn’t hit him on purpose. There’s no way. She’s guilty of maybe manslaughter at most and they have not established it.
Yep. This is the scenario that makes the most sense. There is no evidence that Mr. O’Keefe was hit by a car since his injuries didn’t comport with being struck.
Ridiculous.
Defendant's own ARCCA witness testified his injuries were consistent with being knocked down by a vehicle and sustaining fatal head injury.
Medical examiner testified his injuries were both inconsistent AND CONSISTENT with a pedestrian strike by motor vehicle - i.e., some such incidents result in anomalies re: injury pattern. She also testified, as did the treating ER physician, that he exhibited no signs of being in an altercation i.e. FIGHT.
His DNA on her tail light HOUSING. His hair frozen to the lift gate of the SUV. Tiny pieces of her tail light in his clothing.
OPEN YOUR EYES!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think she was blacked out and realized she was so drunk after she came to on the couch that she suddenly wondered if she had somehow hit him or … who knows. I’m confused about the whole going into the after party thing. They must have gotten into a fight on the way there - they were all happy at the bar and her explanation about why she didn’t go in is odd. Also, if she was waiting for him to go in that was a super short wait? I honestly think if she hit him she just didn’t know. She was wasted. But I also don’t think she had any intent to kill him. She thought he was sleeping with someone else in her voicemails! She didn’t hit him on purpose. There’s no way. She’s guilty of maybe manslaughter at most and they have not established it.
Yep. This is the scenario that makes the most sense. There is no evidence that Mr. O’Keefe was hit by a car since his injuries didn’t comport with being struck.
Ridiculous.
Defendant's own ARCCA witness testified his injuries were consistent with being knocked down by a vehicle and sustaining fatal head injury.
Medical examiner testified his injuries were both inconsistent AND CONSISTENT with a pedestrian strike by motor vehicle - i.e., some such incidents result in anomalies re: injury pattern. She also testified, as did the treating ER physician, that he exhibited no signs of being in an altercation i.e. FIGHT.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think she was blacked out and realized she was so drunk after she came to on the couch that she suddenly wondered if she had somehow hit him or … who knows. I’m confused about the whole going into the after party thing. They must have gotten into a fight on the way there - they were all happy at the bar and her explanation about why she didn’t go in is odd. Also, if she was waiting for him to go in that was a super short wait? I honestly think if she hit him she just didn’t know. She was wasted. But I also don’t think she had any intent to kill him. She thought he was sleeping with someone else in her voicemails! She didn’t hit him on purpose. There’s no way. She’s guilty of maybe manslaughter at most and they have not established it.
Yep. This is the scenario that makes the most sense. There is no evidence that Mr. O’Keefe was hit by a car since his injuries didn’t comport with being struck.
Ridiculous.
Defendant's own ARCCA witness testified his injuries were consistent with being knocked down by a vehicle and sustaining fatal head injury.
Medical examiner testified his injuries were both inconsistent AND CONSISTENT with a pedestrian strike by motor vehicle - i.e., some such incidents result in anomalies re: injury pattern. She also testified, as did the treating ER physician, that he exhibited no signs of being in an altercation i.e. FIGHT.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think she was blacked out and realized she was so drunk after she came to on the couch that she suddenly wondered if she had somehow hit him or … who knows. I’m confused about the whole going into the after party thing. They must have gotten into a fight on the way there - they were all happy at the bar and her explanation about why she didn’t go in is odd. Also, if she was waiting for him to go in that was a super short wait? I honestly think if she hit him she just didn’t know. She was wasted. But I also don’t think she had any intent to kill him. She thought he was sleeping with someone else in her voicemails! She didn’t hit him on purpose. There’s no way. She’s guilty of maybe manslaughter at most and they have not established it.
Yep. This is the scenario that makes the most sense. There is no evidence that Mr. O’Keefe was hit by a car since his injuries didn’t comport with being struck.