Anonymous
03/15/2023 08:32
Subject: Re:APS School Board race
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:Jeff/Admin: Can you explain why posts in this thread keep getting deleted if they mention APE?
There is a post directly above yours that mentions APE that did not get deleted. Posts are getting deleted for that reason. They are getting deleted for making false statements.
This group, which a SB candidate led for years, was an open schools group in Arlington. They were abusive online and in school board meetings. Some of their most aggressive, vocal members were anti-maskers, anti-CRT, pro-voucher. They were aligned with open schools groups out in FCPS and LCPS. Including Ian Prior, PDE (Koch bro), etc.
I really hope the normal lurkers on this page are not buying these defamatory lies. Literally none of this true. It'd be laughable if we we're living in an era of mis-information and conspiracy theory uptake. Please do your own research and look into this group, read their newsletters, and explore their website. I know some of them personally and they are all very active in their school communities and closely aligned with many APS teachers. There are a few deranged trolls on this page (likely the same people making the same outlandish claims on AEM) that are obsessed and continue to spread lies. They make accusation with no evidence or links. They associate people who have long been kicked out of APE if they went against their values and mission as being "leaders." It's disturbing.
No,PP, they are true. I'm involved in school issues, know MT, know APE. I can respect different views and I respect her for some of her advocacy. But APE was unhinged for a while, and MT didn't see that forest for the trees until later. Their level of anger and personal attacks turned off people like me who were open to their original advocacy.
I will never forget the hostility and abuse they showed to teachers.
+1
And administrators and parents.
It’s shocking that they have the audacity to move forward without some massive apology to the community. Are they hoping that we all just forgot?
I don't think they are hoping. More like gaslighting.
This former APS teacher remembers it like it was:
At first, when schools moved to online instruction in the spring of 2020 and parents saw firsthand the hardships teachers were enduring, plaudits poured in for the educators showing remarkable commitment to their profession in a difficult situation they had never trained for. Virtual teaching took much more time to prepare, execute and evaluate. And because students were often not required to turn on their cameras, it was a lot like teaching into a void. But as time crawled on and schools remained closed to in-person instruction, parents became critical, even angry. The hostility parents leveled against teachers was astonishing.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/books/2023/03/08/teachers-woes-vulnerable-profession-robbins/?fbclid=IwAR09zWPxOvQ7ARNI88LVb53WxRdEE-8OSZNjn02BRB4rxJ5N_3psAqdN2Ts
Anonymous
03/15/2023 08:25
Subject: Re:APS School Board race
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:Jeff/Admin: Can you explain why posts in this thread keep getting deleted if they mention APE?
There is a post directly above yours that mentions APE that did not get deleted. Posts are getting deleted for that reason. They are getting deleted for making false statements.
This group, which a SB candidate led for years, was an open schools group in Arlington. They were abusive online and in school board meetings. Some of their most aggressive, vocal members were anti-maskers, anti-CRT, pro-voucher. They were aligned with open schools groups out in FCPS and LCPS. Including Ian Prior, PDE (Koch bro), etc.
I really hope the normal lurkers on this page are not buying these defamatory lies. Literally none of this true. It'd be laughable if we we're living in an era of mis-information and conspiracy theory uptake. Please do your own research and look into this group, read their newsletters, and explore their website. I know some of them personally and they are all very active in their school communities and closely aligned with many APS teachers. There are a few deranged trolls on this page (likely the same people making the same outlandish claims on AEM) that are obsessed and continue to spread lies. They make accusation with no evidence or links. They associate people who have long been kicked out of APE if they went against their values and mission as being "leaders." It's disturbing.
No,PP, they are true. I'm involved in school issues, know MT, know APE. I can respect different views and I respect her for some of her advocacy. But APE was unhinged for a while, and MT didn't see that forest for the trees until later. Their level of anger and personal attacks turned off people like me who were open to their original advocacy.
I will never forget the hostility and abuse they showed to teachers.
+1
And administrators and parents.
It’s shocking that they have the audacity to move forward without some massive apology to the community. Are they hoping that we all just forgot?
I don't think they are hoping. More like gaslighting.
Anonymous
03/14/2023 23:26
Subject: Re:APS School Board race
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:Jeff/Admin: Can you explain why posts in this thread keep getting deleted if they mention APE?
There is a post directly above yours that mentions APE that did not get deleted. Posts are getting deleted for that reason. They are getting deleted for making false statements.
This group, which a SB candidate led for years, was an open schools group in Arlington. They were abusive online and in school board meetings. Some of their most aggressive, vocal members were anti-maskers, anti-CRT, pro-voucher. They were aligned with open schools groups out in FCPS and LCPS. Including Ian Prior, PDE (Koch bro), etc.
I really hope the normal lurkers on this page are not buying these defamatory lies. Literally none of this true. It'd be laughable if we we're living in an era of mis-information and conspiracy theory uptake. Please do your own research and look into this group, read their newsletters, and explore their website. I know some of them personally and they are all very active in their school communities and closely aligned with many APS teachers. There are a few deranged trolls on this page (likely the same people making the same outlandish claims on AEM) that are obsessed and continue to spread lies. They make accusation with no evidence or links. They associate people who have long been kicked out of APE if they went against their values and mission as being "leaders." It's disturbing.
No,PP, they are true. I'm involved in school issues, know MT, know APE. I can respect different views and I respect her for some of her advocacy. But APE was unhinged for a while, and MT didn't see that forest for the trees until later. Their level of anger and personal attacks turned off people like me who were open to their original advocacy.
I will never forget the hostility and abuse they showed to teachers.
+1
And administrators and parents.
It’s shocking that they have the audacity to move forward without some massive apology to the community. Are they hoping that we all just forgot?
Anonymous
03/14/2023 22:52
Subject: Re:APS School Board race
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:Jeff/Admin: Can you explain why posts in this thread keep getting deleted if they mention APE?
There is a post directly above yours that mentions APE that did not get deleted. Posts are getting deleted for that reason. They are getting deleted for making false statements.
This group, which a SB candidate led for years, was an open schools group in Arlington. They were abusive online and in school board meetings. Some of their most aggressive, vocal members were anti-maskers, anti-CRT, pro-voucher. They were aligned with open schools groups out in FCPS and LCPS. Including Ian Prior, PDE (Koch bro), etc.
I really hope the normal lurkers on this page are not buying these defamatory lies. Literally none of this true. It'd be laughable if we we're living in an era of mis-information and conspiracy theory uptake. Please do your own research and look into this group, read their newsletters, and explore their website. I know some of them personally and they are all very active in their school communities and closely aligned with many APS teachers. There are a few deranged trolls on this page (likely the same people making the same outlandish claims on AEM) that are obsessed and continue to spread lies. They make accusation with no evidence or links. They associate people who have long been kicked out of APE if they went against their values and mission as being "leaders." It's disturbing.
No,PP, they are true. I'm involved in school issues, know MT, know APE. I can respect different views and I respect her for some of her advocacy. But APE was unhinged for a while, and MT didn't see that forest for the trees until later. Their level of anger and personal attacks turned off people like me who were open to their original advocacy.
I will never forget the hostility and abuse they showed to teachers.
Anonymous
03/14/2023 22:51
Subject: APS School Board race
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:APE members still are angry. In any thread you walk in, they still can't get over 2020. While it was awful, it's done and will never, ever happen again. I need a candidate who can stop talking about it, acknowledge the past, but look to the future. Miranda ain't it.
Are you kidding me? I follow AEM and APE. The only place I see people fighting about 2020 is on AEM. It's not APE that is stuck in 2020.
Lol no one talks about it on AEM, except APE members. Even people here have pretty much moved on from 2020, except APE members.
Also, "Learning loss" is code for "I only care about what happened in 2020-21, and not the systemic learning disparities that happened before or after to marginalized groups." I roll my eyes at anyone (including Duran) who talks about it.
Exactly. ”Learning loss” is part of the right’s continued attack on public schools.
They could address academic issues in a variety of ways and choose to focus on that and use those words.
Yup they want to be reimbursed for tutors or private schools.
Interesting bc that is what Youngkin is proposing and I hope it passes bc we would like to recoup some of our costs.
I don't. It's just going to be wealthy white parents who know to apply for it, who really don't need it. I'd rather see the funds go directly to those who really need it.
Like a check to low income families to be used as they see fit? Or more resources for schools? What are you thinking?
I don't have a specific plan but I think to schools --- and to be used for students in the highest need groups - black, brown, disabled, ELL, etc.
I don't want this going to opportunity hoarding priviled white people
Tutoring doesn't have to be vouchers given to parents like Youngkin has proposed. It's the afterschool tutoring programs already happening, or paying teachers who want to tutor after school, or giving more students small group interventions in school is essentially high dose tutoring. Lots of ways to provide more tutoring without giving publicly subsidizing vouchers.
Anonymous
03/14/2023 21:55
Subject: APS School Board race
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:APE members still are angry. In any thread you walk in, they still can't get over 2020. While it was awful, it's done and will never, ever happen again. I need a candidate who can stop talking about it, acknowledge the past, but look to the future. Miranda ain't it.
Are you kidding me? I follow AEM and APE. The only place I see people fighting about 2020 is on AEM. It's not APE that is stuck in 2020.
Lol no one talks about it on AEM, except APE members. Even people here have pretty much moved on from 2020, except APE members.
Also, "Learning loss" is code for "I only care about what happened in 2020-21, and not the systemic learning disparities that happened before or after to marginalized groups." I roll my eyes at anyone (including Duran) who talks about it.
Exactly. ”Learning loss” is part of the right’s continued attack on public schools.
They could address academic issues in a variety of ways and choose to focus on that and use those words.
Yup they want to be reimbursed for tutors or private schools.
Interesting bc that is what Youngkin is proposing and I hope it passes bc we would like to recoup some of our costs.
I don't. It's just going to be wealthy white parents who know to apply for it, who really don't need it. I'd rather see the funds go directly to those who really need it.
Like a check to low income families to be used as they see fit? Or more resources for schools? What are you thinking?
I don't have a specific plan but I think to schools --- and to be used for students in the highest need groups - black, brown, disabled, ELL, etc.
I don't want this going to opportunity hoarding priviled white people
Anonymous
03/14/2023 19:58
Subject: APS School Board race
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:APE members still are angry. In any thread you walk in, they still can't get over 2020. While it was awful, it's done and will never, ever happen again. I need a candidate who can stop talking about it, acknowledge the past, but look to the future. Miranda ain't it.
Are you kidding me? I follow AEM and APE. The only place I see people fighting about 2020 is on AEM. It's not APE that is stuck in 2020.
Lol no one talks about it on AEM, except APE members. Even people here have pretty much moved on from 2020, except APE members.
Also, "Learning loss" is code for "I only care about what happened in 2020-21, and not the systemic learning disparities that happened before or after to marginalized groups." I roll my eyes at anyone (including Duran) who talks about it.
Exactly. ”Learning loss” is part of the right’s continued attack on public schools.
They could address academic issues in a variety of ways and choose to focus on that and use those words.
Yup they want to be reimbursed for tutors or private schools.
Interesting bc that is what Youngkin is proposing and I hope it passes bc we would like to recoup some of our costs.
I don't. It's just going to be wealthy white parents who know to apply for it, who really don't need it. I'd rather see the funds go directly to those who really need it.
Like a check to low income families to be used as they see fit? Or more resources for schools? What are you thinking?
DP. I'd like to see VA pay for 1:1 tutoring - prioritizing schools and kids with lowest scores.
Anonymous
03/14/2023 19:35
Subject: APS School Board race
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:APE members still are angry. In any thread you walk in, they still can't get over 2020. While it was awful, it's done and will never, ever happen again. I need a candidate who can stop talking about it, acknowledge the past, but look to the future. Miranda ain't it.
Are you kidding me? I follow AEM and APE. The only place I see people fighting about 2020 is on AEM. It's not APE that is stuck in 2020.
Lol no one talks about it on AEM, except APE members. Even people here have pretty much moved on from 2020, except APE members.
Also, "Learning loss" is code for "I only care about what happened in 2020-21, and not the systemic learning disparities that happened before or after to marginalized groups." I roll my eyes at anyone (including Duran) who talks about it.
Exactly. ”Learning loss” is part of the right’s continued attack on public schools.
They could address academic issues in a variety of ways and choose to focus on that and use those words.
Yup they want to be reimbursed for tutors or private schools.
Interesting bc that is what Youngkin is proposing and I hope it passes bc we would like to recoup some of our costs.
I don't. It's just going to be wealthy white parents who know to apply for it, who really don't need it. I'd rather see the funds go directly to those who really need it.
Np. I am not wealthy and my kid goes to a title 1 school. We made a lot of sacrifices to provide speech therapy and reading help. I hate both Youngkin and your assumptions.
Anonymous
03/14/2023 18:52
Subject: APS School Board race
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:APE members still are angry. In any thread you walk in, they still can't get over 2020. While it was awful, it's done and will never, ever happen again. I need a candidate who can stop talking about it, acknowledge the past, but look to the future. Miranda ain't it.
Are you kidding me? I follow AEM and APE. The only place I see people fighting about 2020 is on AEM. It's not APE that is stuck in 2020.
Lol no one talks about it on AEM, except APE members. Even people here have pretty much moved on from 2020, except APE members.
Also, "Learning loss" is code for "I only care about what happened in 2020-21, and not the systemic learning disparities that happened before or after to marginalized groups." I roll my eyes at anyone (including Duran) who talks about it.
Exactly. ”Learning loss” is part of the right’s continued attack on public schools.
They could address academic issues in a variety of ways and choose to focus on that and use those words.
Yup they want to be reimbursed for tutors or private schools.
Interesting bc that is what Youngkin is proposing and I hope it passes bc we would like to recoup some of our costs.
I don't. It's just going to be wealthy white parents who know to apply for it, who really don't need it. I'd rather see the funds go directly to those who really need it.
Like a check to low income families to be used as they see fit? Or more resources for schools? What are you thinking?
Anonymous
03/14/2023 17:41
Subject: APS School Board race
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:APE members still are angry. In any thread you walk in, they still can't get over 2020. While it was awful, it's done and will never, ever happen again. I need a candidate who can stop talking about it, acknowledge the past, but look to the future. Miranda ain't it.
Are you kidding me? I follow AEM and APE. The only place I see people fighting about 2020 is on AEM. It's not APE that is stuck in 2020.
Lol no one talks about it on AEM, except APE members. Even people here have pretty much moved on from 2020, except APE members.
Also, "Learning loss" is code for "I only care about what happened in 2020-21, and not the systemic learning disparities that happened before or after to marginalized groups." I roll my eyes at anyone (including Duran) who talks about it.
Exactly. ”Learning loss” is part of the right’s continued attack on public schools.
They could address academic issues in a variety of ways and choose to focus on that and use those words.
Yup they want to be reimbursed for tutors or private schools.
Interesting bc that is what Youngkin is proposing and I hope it passes bc we would like to recoup some of our costs.
I don't. It's just going to be wealthy white parents who know to apply for it, who really don't need it. I'd rather see the funds go directly to those who really need it.
Anonymous
03/14/2023 16:44
Subject: APS School Board race
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:APE members still are angry. In any thread you walk in, they still can't get over 2020. While it was awful, it's done and will never, ever happen again. I need a candidate who can stop talking about it, acknowledge the past, but look to the future. Miranda ain't it.
Are you kidding me? I follow AEM and APE. The only place I see people fighting about 2020 is on AEM. It's not APE that is stuck in 2020.
Lol no one talks about it on AEM, except APE members. Even people here have pretty much moved on from 2020, except APE members.
Also, "Learning loss" is code for "I only care about what happened in 2020-21, and not the systemic learning disparities that happened before or after to marginalized groups." I roll my eyes at anyone (including Duran) who talks about it.
Exactly. ”Learning loss” is part of the right’s continued attack on public schools.
They could address academic issues in a variety of ways and choose to focus on that and use those words.
Yup they want to be reimbursed for tutors or private schools.
Interesting bc that is what Youngkin is proposing and I hope it passes bc we would like to recoup some of our costs.
Anonymous
03/14/2023 16:03
Subject: APS School Board race
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:APE members still are angry. In any thread you walk in, they still can't get over 2020. While it was awful, it's done and will never, ever happen again. I need a candidate who can stop talking about it, acknowledge the past, but look to the future. Miranda ain't it.
Are you kidding me? I follow AEM and APE. The only place I see people fighting about 2020 is on AEM. It's not APE that is stuck in 2020.
Lol no one talks about it on AEM, except APE members. Even people here have pretty much moved on from 2020, except APE members.
Also, "Learning loss" is code for "I only care about what happened in 2020-21, and not the systemic learning disparities that happened before or after to marginalized groups." I roll my eyes at anyone (including Duran) who talks about it.
Exactly. ”Learning loss” is part of the right’s continued attack on public schools.
They could address academic issues in a variety of ways and choose to focus on that and use those words.
Yup they want to be reimbursed for tutors or private schools.
Anonymous
03/14/2023 11:40
Subject: APS School Board race
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:APE members still are angry. In any thread you walk in, they still can't get over 2020. While it was awful, it's done and will never, ever happen again. I need a candidate who can stop talking about it, acknowledge the past, but look to the future. Miranda ain't it.
Are you kidding me? I follow AEM and APE. The only place I see people fighting about 2020 is on AEM. It's not APE that is stuck in 2020.
Lol no one talks about it on AEM, except APE members. Even people here have pretty much moved on from 2020, except APE members.
Also, "Learning loss" is code for "I only care about what happened in 2020-21, and not the systemic learning disparities that happened before or after to marginalized groups." I roll my eyes at anyone (including Duran) who talks about it.
Exactly. ”Learning loss” is part of the right’s continued attack on public schools.
They could address academic issues in a variety of ways and choose to focus on that and use those words.
That's some real head in the sand. Fortunately more Dems at all levels are talking about it. Secretary Cardona talked about it for months. More seem to be recognizing how big the problem is.
I don’t mean to detail this thread but what are they talking about? Is it an easy google find for me or do I need to know any special terms to search for it? I’m not an education expert and our kids aren’t at APS yet so forgive the naïve questions.
Anonymous
03/14/2023 11:27
Subject: APS School Board race
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:APE members still are angry. In any thread you walk in, they still can't get over 2020. While it was awful, it's done and will never, ever happen again. I need a candidate who can stop talking about it, acknowledge the past, but look to the future. Miranda ain't it.
Are you kidding me? I follow AEM and APE. The only place I see people fighting about 2020 is on AEM. It's not APE that is stuck in 2020.
Lol no one talks about it on AEM, except APE members. Even people here have pretty much moved on from 2020, except APE members.
Also, "Learning loss" is code for "I only care about what happened in 2020-21, and not the systemic learning disparities that happened before or after to marginalized groups." I roll my eyes at anyone (including Duran) who talks about it.
Exactly. ”Learning loss” is part of the right’s continued attack on public schools.
They could address academic issues in a variety of ways and choose to focus on that and use those words.
That's some real head in the sand. Fortunately more Dems at all levels are talking about it. Secretary Cardona talked about it for months. More seem to be recognizing how big the problem is.
Anonymous
03/14/2023 11:25
Subject: APS School Board race
Science of *reading*