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Anonymous wrote:Imagine if, gasp Hillary had been found with classified documents all over her house. Republicans would be gleefully chanting lock her up.

Are we going to go after Clinton?

Clinton's emails did include messages with some paragraphs marked with a "(c)" for "Confidential."[107][108] The FBI investigation found that 110 messages contained information that was classified at the time it was sent. Sixty-five of those emails were found to contain information classified as "Secret;" more than 20 contained "Top-Secret" information.[109][110] Three emails, out of 30,000, were found to be marked as classified, although they lacked classified headers and were only marked with a small "c" in parentheses, described as "portion markings" by Comey.

Clinton personally wrote 104 of the 2,093 emails that were retroactively[115][116][117] found to contain information classified as "confidential."[57][118] Of the remaining emails that were classified after they were sent, Clinton aide Jake Sullivan wrote the most, at 215.[115]

According to the State Department, there were 2,093 email chains on the server that were retroactively marked as classified by the State Department as "Confidential," 65 as "Secret," and 22 as "Top Secret."[119][120]

She received unclassified emails from her staff about things she needed to know. She wasn’t storing Top Secret documents in an unsecured storage room at a club full of spies and criminals. Almost everyone in government receives emails with Confidential information when they are traveling, attending meetings, making phone calls, about current issues and events. It’s their job to have that information. The retroactively TS information was something like an email discussion whether a NY Times article about drone strikes was true, which everyone in the world knew to be true but the retroactive classifiers pretended was a big secret that the Secretary of State’s staff should not discuss with the Secretary of State. Nothing leaked from her server. It was as secure as or more secure than the State Department unclassified email system. Almost every person in the Trump Administration used private email and cell phones much more egregiously than anything Clinton did.

It is also perfectly fine to have confidential information on an unclassified computer.

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Anonymous wrote:Imagine if, gasp Hillary had been found with classified documents all over her house. Republicans would be gleefully chanting lock her up.

Are we going to go after Clinton?

Clinton's emails did include messages with some paragraphs marked with a "(c)" for "Confidential."[107][108] The FBI investigation found that 110 messages contained information that was classified at the time it was sent. Sixty-five of those emails were found to contain information classified as "Secret;" more than 20 contained "Top-Secret" information.[109][110] Three emails, out of 30,000, were found to be marked as classified, although they lacked classified headers and were only marked with a small "c" in parentheses, described as "portion markings" by Comey.

Clinton personally wrote 104 of the 2,093 emails that were retroactively[115][116][117] found to contain information classified as "confidential."[57][118] Of the remaining emails that were classified after they were sent, Clinton aide Jake Sullivan wrote the most, at 215.[115]

According to the State Department, there were 2,093 email chains on the server that were retroactively marked as classified by the State Department as "Confidential," 65 as "Secret," and 22 as "Top Secret."[119][120]

Sending emails during a job is clearly equivalent to taking classified documents after the job is over. Right? Right?

What is it with you people?

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Anonymous wrote:Imagine if, gasp Hillary had been found with classified documents all over her house. Republicans would be gleefully chanting lock her up.

Are we going to go after Clinton?

Clinton's emails did include messages with some paragraphs marked with a "(c)" for "Confidential."[107][108] The FBI investigation found that 110 messages contained information that was classified at the time it was sent. Sixty-five of those emails were found to contain information classified as "Secret;" more than 20 contained "Top-Secret" information.[109][110] Three emails, out of 30,000, were found to be marked as classified, although they lacked classified headers and were only marked with a small "c" in parentheses, described as "portion markings" by Comey.

Clinton personally wrote 104 of the 2,093 emails that were retroactively[115][116][117] found to contain information classified as "confidential."[57][118] Of the remaining emails that were classified after they were sent, Clinton aide Jake Sullivan wrote the most, at 215.[115]

According to the State Department, there were 2,093 email chains on the server that were retroactively marked as classified by the State Department as "Confidential," 65 as "Secret," and 22 as "Top Secret."[119][120]

She received unclassified emails from her staff about things she needed to know. She wasn’t storing Top Secret documents in an unsecured storage room at a club full of spies and criminals. Almost everyone in government receives emails with Confidential information when they are traveling, attending meetings, making phone calls, about current issues and events. It’s their job to have that information. The retroactively TS information was something like an email discussion whether a NY Times article about drone strikes was true, which everyone in the world knew to be true but the retroactive classifiers pretended was a big secret that the Secretary of State’s staff should not discuss with the Secretary of State. Nothing leaked from her server. It was as secure as or more secure than the State Department unclassified email system. Almost every person in the Trump Administration used private email and cell phones much more egregiously than anything Clinton did.

It is also perfectly fine to have confidential information on an unclassified computer.

Way to ignore everything the PP wrote

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Anonymous wrote:Apparently, according to Eric Trump, not all the cameras in MAL were turned off during the raid and Trump was able to watch it live.

So there are tapes?

The FBI wouldn’t have authority to disable surveillance without a court order and they would likely want the recoding to demonstrate that nothing occurred out of the ordinary.

So much for the day planting evidence rabbit hole.

But the most intriguing thing remains why he didn’t just give them back? Since everyone knew he had these docs, he couldn’t do anything with them. I just can’t imagine what value he ascribes to them.

1. Evidence of a crime.

2. Consciousness of guilt.

3. Trump has spent a lifetime bs’ing and stonewalling. He didn’t think the FBI would drop the hammer.

If evidence of a crime, why didn't he destroy them?

Interestingly enough, there’s an article(s) circulating from 2020 where he declassified everything including declassifying redactions. So whether or not the docs are classified is a question mark. Don’t know what to think about it

He has to file paperwork to do that. So that's easy to prove or disprove. Release the warrant and inventory and compare that to any declassification orders he filled out. The documents still aren't his to take under the National Records Act though.

Further articles stated that the WH legal team did not follow through on the paperwork.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Imagine if, gasp Hillary had been found with classified documents all over her house. Republicans would be gleefully chanting lock her up.

Are we going to go after Clinton?

Clinton's emails did include messages with some paragraphs marked with a "(c)" for "Confidential."[107][108] The FBI investigation found that 110 messages contained information that was classified at the time it was sent. Sixty-five of those emails were found to contain information classified as "Secret;" more than 20 contained "Top-Secret" information.[109][110] Three emails, out of 30,000, were found to be marked as classified, although they lacked classified headers and were only marked with a small "c" in parentheses, described as "portion markings" by Comey.

Clinton personally wrote 104 of the 2,093 emails that were retroactively[115][116][117] found to contain information classified as "confidential."[57][118] Of the remaining emails that were classified after they were sent, Clinton aide Jake Sullivan wrote the most, at 215.[115]

According to the State Department, there were 2,093 email chains on the server that were retroactively marked as classified by the State Department as "Confidential," 65 as "Secret," and 22 as "Top Secret."[119][120]

She received unclassified emails from her staff about things she needed to know. She wasn’t storing Top Secret documents in an unsecured storage room at a club full of spies and criminals. Almost everyone in government receives emails with Confidential information when they are traveling, attending meetings, making phone calls, about current issues and events. It’s their job to have that information. The retroactively TS information was something like an email discussion whether a NY Times article about drone strikes was true, which everyone in the world knew to be true but the retroactive classifiers pretended was a big secret that the Secretary of State’s staff should not discuss with the Secretary of State. Nothing leaked from her server. It was as secure as or more secure than the State Department unclassified email system. Almost every person in the Trump Administration used private email and cell phones much more egregiously than anything Clinton did.

It is also perfectly fine to have confidential information on an unclassified computer.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Imagine if, gasp Hillary had been found with classified documents all over her house. Republicans would be gleefully chanting lock her up.

Are we going to go after Clinton?

Clinton's emails did include messages with some paragraphs marked with a "(c)" for "Confidential."[107][108] The FBI investigation found that 110 messages contained information that was classified at the time it was sent. Sixty-five of those emails were found to contain information classified as "Secret;" more than 20 contained "Top-Secret" information.[109][110] Three emails, out of 30,000, were found to be marked as classified, although they lacked classified headers and were only marked with a small "c" in parentheses, described as "portion markings" by Comey.

Clinton personally wrote 104 of the 2,093 emails that were retroactively[115][116][117] found to contain information classified as "confidential."[57][118] Of the remaining emails that were classified after they were sent, Clinton aide Jake Sullivan wrote the most, at 215.[115]

According to the State Department, there were 2,093 email chains on the server that were retroactively marked as classified by the State Department as "Confidential," 65 as "Secret," and 22 as "Top Secret."[119][120]

She received unclassified emails from her staff about things she needed to know. She wasn’t storing Top Secret documents in an unsecured storage room at a club full of spies and criminals. Almost everyone in government receives emails with Confidential information when they are traveling, attending meetings, making phone calls, about current issues and events. It’s their job to have that information. The retroactively TS information was something like an email discussion whether a NY Times article about drone strikes was true, which everyone in the world knew to be true but the retroactive classifiers pretended was a big secret that the Secretary of State’s staff should not discuss with the Secretary of State. Nothing leaked from her server. It was as secure as or more secure than the State Department unclassified email system. Almost every person in the Trump Administration used private email and cell phones much more egregiously than anything Clinton did.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Imagine if, gasp Hillary had been found with classified documents all over her house. Republicans would be gleefully chanting lock her up.

Are we going to go after Clinton?

Clinton's emails did include messages with some paragraphs marked with a "(c)" for "Confidential."[107][108] The FBI investigation found that 110 messages contained information that was classified at the time it was sent. Sixty-five of those emails were found to contain information classified as "Secret;" more than 20 contained "Top-Secret" information.[109][110] Three emails, out of 30,000, were found to be marked as classified, although they lacked classified headers and were only marked with a small "c" in parentheses, described as "portion markings" by Comey.

Clinton personally wrote 104 of the 2,093 emails that were retroactively[115][116][117] found to contain information classified as "confidential."[57][118] Of the remaining emails that were classified after they were sent, Clinton aide Jake Sullivan wrote the most, at 215.[115]

According to the State Department, there were 2,093 email chains on the server that were retroactively marked as classified by the State Department as "Confidential," 65 as "Secret," and 22 as "Top Secret."[119][120]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Imagine if, gasp Hillary had been found with classified documents all over her house. Republicans would be gleefully chanting lock her up.

Are we going to go after Clinton?

Clinton's emails did include messages with some paragraphs marked with a "(c)" for "Confidential."[107][108] The FBI investigation found that 110 messages contained information that was classified at the time it was sent. Sixty-five of those emails were found to contain information classified as "Secret;" more than 20 contained "Top-Secret" information.[109][110] Three emails, out of 30,000, were found to be marked as classified, although they lacked classified headers and were only marked with a small "c" in parentheses, described as "portion markings" by Comey.

Clinton personally wrote 104 of the 2,093 emails that were retroactively[115][116][117] found to contain information classified as "confidential."[57][118] Of the remaining emails that were classified after they were sent, Clinton aide Jake Sullivan wrote the most, at 215.[115]

According to the State Department, there were 2,093 email chains on the server that were retroactively marked as classified by the State Department as "Confidential," 65 as "Secret," and 22 as "Top Secret."[119][120]

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Anonymous wrote:Trump can release the warrant any time.

The government NEVER releases warrants. This is a ploy by the GOP to get people angry over things that happen every day, like when the FBI executes a warrant.

Apparently, the ploy means that the DOJ can unseal the warrant after all.

No, the JUDGE can unseal the warrant if the parties agree.

Which means not just Trump can. From what I understand, Trump's lawyers were not allowed to keep a copy of the warrant at the time. Were they eventually given it?

Of course they have the warrant, and they can make it public anytime they want.

It wasn’t clear because at the time of the raid, Trump’s legal team was only allowed to view the warrant, not keep it. Some were saying they were told to stand 10 feet away while viewing.

I also heard that they only were allowed to see it by standing on the heads so everything was upside down. Those FBI bastards!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Imagine if, gasp Hillary had been found with classified documents all over her house. Republicans would be gleefully chanting lock her up.

Are we going to go after Clinton?

Clinton's emails did include messages with some paragraphs marked with a "(c)" for "Confidential."[107][108] The FBI investigation found that 110 messages contained information that was classified at the time it was sent. Sixty-five of those emails were found to contain information classified as "Secret;" more than 20 contained "Top-Secret" information.[109][110] Three emails, out of 30,000, were found to be marked as classified, although they lacked classified headers and were only marked with a small "c" in parentheses, described as "portion markings" by Comey.

Clinton personally wrote 104 of the 2,093 emails that were retroactively[115][116][117] found to contain information classified as "confidential."[57][118] Of the remaining emails that were classified after they were sent, Clinton aide Jake Sullivan wrote the most, at 215.[115]

According to the State Department, there were 2,093 email chains on the server that were retroactively marked as classified by the State Department as "Confidential," 65 as "Secret," and 22 as "Top Secret."[119][120]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Imagine if, gasp Hillary had been found with classified documents all over her house. Republicans would be gleefully chanting lock her up.

Are we going to go after Clinton?

Clinton's emails did include messages with some paragraphs marked with a "(c)" for "Confidential."[107][108] The FBI investigation found that 110 messages contained information that was classified at the time it was sent. Sixty-five of those emails were found to contain information classified as "Secret;" more than 20 contained "Top-Secret" information.[109][110] Three emails, out of 30,000, were found to be marked as classified, although they lacked classified headers and were only marked with a small "c" in parentheses, described as "portion markings" by Comey.

Clinton personally wrote 104 of the 2,093 emails that were retroactively[115][116][117] found to contain information classified as "confidential."[57][118] Of the remaining emails that were classified after they were sent, Clinton aide Jake Sullivan wrote the most, at 215.[115]

According to the State Department, there were 2,093 email chains on the server that were retroactively marked as classified by the State Department as "Confidential," 65 as "Secret," and 22 as "Top Secret."[119][120]

Anonymous wrote:Imagine if, gasp Hillary had been found with classified documents all over her house. Republicans would be gleefully chanting lock her up.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Apparently, according to Eric Trump, not all the cameras in MAL were turned off during the raid and Trump was able to watch it live.

So there are tapes?

The FBI wouldn’t have authority to disable surveillance without a court order and they would likely want the recoding to demonstrate that nothing occurred out of the ordinary.

So much for the day planting evidence rabbit hole.

But the most intriguing thing remains why he didn’t just give them back? Since everyone knew he had these docs, he couldn’t do anything with them. I just can’t imagine what value he ascribes to them.

1. Evidence of a crime.

2. Consciousness of guilt.

3. Trump has spent a lifetime bs’ing and stonewalling. He didn’t think the FBI would drop the hammer.

If evidence of a crime, why didn't he destroy them?

Interestingly enough, there’s an article(s) circulating from 2020 where he declassified everything including declassifying redactions. So whether or not the docs are classified is a question mark. Don’t know what to think about it

He has to file paperwork to do that. So that's easy to prove or disprove. Release the warrant and inventory and compare that to any declassification orders he filled out. The documents still aren't his to take under the National Records Act though.

Further articles stated that the WH legal team did not follow through on the paperwork.