Anonymous
Post 11/29/2021 12:23     Subject: Montgomery- 5 more days and masks off.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
You’re right, I don’t care. I never really cared about any of this. It was pretty clear, early on, that covid is little more than a nuisance for most people. I didn’t lose my mind over it like so many people in the DC area.

Anyway, why would I complain to some random people on the internet when I end up catching the virus? We’re all going to catch it eventually, no matter what we do.


One U.S. child loses a parent or caregiver for every four COVID-19 deaths, a new modeling study published today in Pediatrics reveals. The findings illustrate orphanhood as a hidden and ongoing secondary tragedy caused by the COVID-19 pandemic and emphasizes that identifying and caring for these children throughout their development is a necessary and urgent part of the pandemic response – both for as long as the pandemic continues, as well as in the post-pandemic era.

The study authors estimate that 120,630 children in the U.S. lost a primary caregiver, (a parent or grandparent responsible for providing housing, basic needs and care) due to COVID-19-associated death. In addition, 22,007 children experienced the death of a secondary caregiver (grandparents providing housing but not most basic needs). Overall, 142,637 children are estimated to have experienced the death of at least one parent, or a custodial or other co-residing grandparent caregiver.

When looking at both primary and secondary caregivers, the study found that findings varied greatly by race/ethnicity: 1 of every 168 American Indian/Alaska Native children, 1 of every 310 Black children, 1 of every 412 Hispanic children, 1 of every 612 Asian children, and 1 of every 753 White children experienced orphanhood or death of caregivers. Compared to white children, American Indian/Alaska Native children were 4.5 times more likely to lose a parent or grandparent caregiver, Black children were 2.4 times more likely, and Hispanic children were nearly 2 times (1.8) more likely.

The current study follows closely in line with a similar study published in The Lancet in July 2021, which found more than 1.5 million children around the world lost a primary or secondary caregiver during the first 14 months of the COVID-19 pandemic. In both the global and US studies, researchers used the UNICEF definition of orphanhood, as including the death of one or both parents6. The definition includes children losing one parent, because they have increased risks of mental health problems, abuse, unstable housing, and household poverty. For children raised by single parents, the COVID-19-associated death of that parent may represent loss of the person primarily responsible for providing love, security, and daily care.


https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/more-140000-us-children-lost-primary-or-secondary-caregiver-due-covid-19-pandemic

But what the heck, I've got mine, and in the long run, we're all dead anyway.

*shrug*


The "Won't someone please think of the children" argument? Really?


No, you're using that meme wrong.

Correct usage: as a response to someone opposing an apartment building on grounds that it will take away the sight of the sky from children who live in the area.
Incorrect usage: as a response to a study that estimates that 1 US child has lost a parent or caregiver per 4 COVID deaths.


For every parent that died, someone lost a spouse. That crisis seems at least twice as bad.
Anonymous
Post 11/29/2021 12:21     Subject: Montgomery- 5 more days and masks off.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

NP. Here is one that discusses the pointlessness of cloth or surgical masks. While N95 masks may be effective, most are not wearing N95s.

https://aip.scitation.org/doi/10.1063/5.0057100

Note that the article suggests improve air exchange inside buildings to be more effective.


"The present study experimentally investigates the dispersion and build-up of an exhaled aerosol modeled with polydisperse microscopic particles (approximately 1 μm mean diameter) by a seated manikin in a relatively large indoor environment...Measurements demonstrate that all tested masks provide protection in the immediate vicinity of the host primarily through the redirection and reduction of expiratory momentum."


Have you heard of this thing called social distancing? Why are you in the immediate vicinity of someone?
Anonymous
Post 11/29/2021 10:35     Subject: Montgomery- 5 more days and masks off.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
You’re right, I don’t care. I never really cared about any of this. It was pretty clear, early on, that covid is little more than a nuisance for most people. I didn’t lose my mind over it like so many people in the DC area.

Anyway, why would I complain to some random people on the internet when I end up catching the virus? We’re all going to catch it eventually, no matter what we do.


One U.S. child loses a parent or caregiver for every four COVID-19 deaths, a new modeling study published today in Pediatrics reveals. The findings illustrate orphanhood as a hidden and ongoing secondary tragedy caused by the COVID-19 pandemic and emphasizes that identifying and caring for these children throughout their development is a necessary and urgent part of the pandemic response – both for as long as the pandemic continues, as well as in the post-pandemic era.

The study authors estimate that 120,630 children in the U.S. lost a primary caregiver, (a parent or grandparent responsible for providing housing, basic needs and care) due to COVID-19-associated death. In addition, 22,007 children experienced the death of a secondary caregiver (grandparents providing housing but not most basic needs). Overall, 142,637 children are estimated to have experienced the death of at least one parent, or a custodial or other co-residing grandparent caregiver.

When looking at both primary and secondary caregivers, the study found that findings varied greatly by race/ethnicity: 1 of every 168 American Indian/Alaska Native children, 1 of every 310 Black children, 1 of every 412 Hispanic children, 1 of every 612 Asian children, and 1 of every 753 White children experienced orphanhood or death of caregivers. Compared to white children, American Indian/Alaska Native children were 4.5 times more likely to lose a parent or grandparent caregiver, Black children were 2.4 times more likely, and Hispanic children were nearly 2 times (1.8) more likely.

The current study follows closely in line with a similar study published in The Lancet in July 2021, which found more than 1.5 million children around the world lost a primary or secondary caregiver during the first 14 months of the COVID-19 pandemic. In both the global and US studies, researchers used the UNICEF definition of orphanhood, as including the death of one or both parents6. The definition includes children losing one parent, because they have increased risks of mental health problems, abuse, unstable housing, and household poverty. For children raised by single parents, the COVID-19-associated death of that parent may represent loss of the person primarily responsible for providing love, security, and daily care.


https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/more-140000-us-children-lost-primary-or-secondary-caregiver-due-covid-19-pandemic

But what the heck, I've got mine, and in the long run, we're all dead anyway.

*shrug*

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make here.
Anonymous
Post 11/29/2021 08:14     Subject: Montgomery- 5 more days and masks off.

Anonymous wrote:

NP. Here is one that discusses the pointlessness of cloth or surgical masks. While N95 masks may be effective, most are not wearing N95s.

https://aip.scitation.org/doi/10.1063/5.0057100

Note that the article suggests improve air exchange inside buildings to be more effective.


"The present study experimentally investigates the dispersion and build-up of an exhaled aerosol modeled with polydisperse microscopic particles (approximately 1 μm mean diameter) by a seated manikin in a relatively large indoor environment...Measurements demonstrate that all tested masks provide protection in the immediate vicinity of the host primarily through the redirection and reduction of expiratory momentum."
Anonymous
Post 11/29/2021 08:06     Subject: Montgomery- 5 more days and masks off.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Most everyone I see is wearing surgical masks or kn95 type masks. The people now wearing cloth masks are the ones who think this is only theater.

Yup. I bought one layer gauze masks from Etsy, for the rare times I need to wear one. I’ve always considered this to be theater to make the anxious feel better.


Can you show us the evidence that they are theater? You keep posting they are theater but have yet to give us evidence of that.

The onus is on the proponents of masks to show they make a meaningful difference. I don’t have to prove anything.


You are making false statements so you absolutely are the one who needs to prove it. There is plenty of evidence masks are helpful and important. You cannot prove it which is why you haven't.

No, there’s very little evidence that masks make an appreciable difference to covid transmission. Masks making a difference is something everyone “knows”, without any real evidence.

Masks mandates mostly exist to give anxious people a feeling of control.


Ok, can you show us the evidence that says masks don't make a difference. You keep making up non-sense to justify your poor behavior but all I see are multiple studies and reports (especially look at schools reopening) where masks are a key factor in reducing transmission.

Maybe you should get help for your personality disorder and anxiety if you feel that out of control that you have to distort things to fit in your narrow thinking.


NP. Here is one that discusses the pointlessness of cloth or surgical masks. While N95 masks may be effective, most are not wearing N95s.

https://aip.scitation.org/doi/10.1063/5.0057100

Note that the article suggests improve air exchange inside buildings to be more effective.
Anonymous
Post 11/29/2021 08:06     Subject: Montgomery- 5 more days and masks off.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
You’re right, I don’t care. I never really cared about any of this. It was pretty clear, early on, that covid is little more than a nuisance for most people. I didn’t lose my mind over it like so many people in the DC area.

Anyway, why would I complain to some random people on the internet when I end up catching the virus? We’re all going to catch it eventually, no matter what we do.


One U.S. child loses a parent or caregiver for every four COVID-19 deaths, a new modeling study published today in Pediatrics reveals. The findings illustrate orphanhood as a hidden and ongoing secondary tragedy caused by the COVID-19 pandemic and emphasizes that identifying and caring for these children throughout their development is a necessary and urgent part of the pandemic response – both for as long as the pandemic continues, as well as in the post-pandemic era.

The study authors estimate that 120,630 children in the U.S. lost a primary caregiver, (a parent or grandparent responsible for providing housing, basic needs and care) due to COVID-19-associated death. In addition, 22,007 children experienced the death of a secondary caregiver (grandparents providing housing but not most basic needs). Overall, 142,637 children are estimated to have experienced the death of at least one parent, or a custodial or other co-residing grandparent caregiver.

When looking at both primary and secondary caregivers, the study found that findings varied greatly by race/ethnicity: 1 of every 168 American Indian/Alaska Native children, 1 of every 310 Black children, 1 of every 412 Hispanic children, 1 of every 612 Asian children, and 1 of every 753 White children experienced orphanhood or death of caregivers. Compared to white children, American Indian/Alaska Native children were 4.5 times more likely to lose a parent or grandparent caregiver, Black children were 2.4 times more likely, and Hispanic children were nearly 2 times (1.8) more likely.

The current study follows closely in line with a similar study published in The Lancet in July 2021, which found more than 1.5 million children around the world lost a primary or secondary caregiver during the first 14 months of the COVID-19 pandemic. In both the global and US studies, researchers used the UNICEF definition of orphanhood, as including the death of one or both parents6. The definition includes children losing one parent, because they have increased risks of mental health problems, abuse, unstable housing, and household poverty. For children raised by single parents, the COVID-19-associated death of that parent may represent loss of the person primarily responsible for providing love, security, and daily care.


https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/more-140000-us-children-lost-primary-or-secondary-caregiver-due-covid-19-pandemic

But what the heck, I've got mine, and in the long run, we're all dead anyway.

*shrug*


The "Won't someone please think of the children" argument? Really?


No, you're using that meme wrong.

Correct usage: as a response to someone opposing an apartment building on grounds that it will take away the sight of the sky from children who live in the area.
Incorrect usage: as a response to a study that estimates that 1 US child has lost a parent or caregiver per 4 COVID deaths.
Anonymous
Post 11/29/2021 07:53     Subject: Montgomery- 5 more days and masks off.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
You’re right, I don’t care. I never really cared about any of this. It was pretty clear, early on, that covid is little more than a nuisance for most people. I didn’t lose my mind over it like so many people in the DC area.

Anyway, why would I complain to some random people on the internet when I end up catching the virus? We’re all going to catch it eventually, no matter what we do.


One U.S. child loses a parent or caregiver for every four COVID-19 deaths, a new modeling study published today in Pediatrics reveals. The findings illustrate orphanhood as a hidden and ongoing secondary tragedy caused by the COVID-19 pandemic and emphasizes that identifying and caring for these children throughout their development is a necessary and urgent part of the pandemic response – both for as long as the pandemic continues, as well as in the post-pandemic era.

The study authors estimate that 120,630 children in the U.S. lost a primary caregiver, (a parent or grandparent responsible for providing housing, basic needs and care) due to COVID-19-associated death. In addition, 22,007 children experienced the death of a secondary caregiver (grandparents providing housing but not most basic needs). Overall, 142,637 children are estimated to have experienced the death of at least one parent, or a custodial or other co-residing grandparent caregiver.

When looking at both primary and secondary caregivers, the study found that findings varied greatly by race/ethnicity: 1 of every 168 American Indian/Alaska Native children, 1 of every 310 Black children, 1 of every 412 Hispanic children, 1 of every 612 Asian children, and 1 of every 753 White children experienced orphanhood or death of caregivers. Compared to white children, American Indian/Alaska Native children were 4.5 times more likely to lose a parent or grandparent caregiver, Black children were 2.4 times more likely, and Hispanic children were nearly 2 times (1.8) more likely.

The current study follows closely in line with a similar study published in The Lancet in July 2021, which found more than 1.5 million children around the world lost a primary or secondary caregiver during the first 14 months of the COVID-19 pandemic. In both the global and US studies, researchers used the UNICEF definition of orphanhood, as including the death of one or both parents6. The definition includes children losing one parent, because they have increased risks of mental health problems, abuse, unstable housing, and household poverty. For children raised by single parents, the COVID-19-associated death of that parent may represent loss of the person primarily responsible for providing love, security, and daily care.


https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/more-140000-us-children-lost-primary-or-secondary-caregiver-due-covid-19-pandemic

But what the heck, I've got mine, and in the long run, we're all dead anyway.

*shrug*


The "Won't someone please think of the children" argument? Really?
Anonymous
Post 11/29/2021 07:19     Subject: Montgomery- 5 more days and masks off.

Anonymous wrote:
You’re right, I don’t care. I never really cared about any of this. It was pretty clear, early on, that covid is little more than a nuisance for most people. I didn’t lose my mind over it like so many people in the DC area.

Anyway, why would I complain to some random people on the internet when I end up catching the virus? We’re all going to catch it eventually, no matter what we do.


One U.S. child loses a parent or caregiver for every four COVID-19 deaths, a new modeling study published today in Pediatrics reveals. The findings illustrate orphanhood as a hidden and ongoing secondary tragedy caused by the COVID-19 pandemic and emphasizes that identifying and caring for these children throughout their development is a necessary and urgent part of the pandemic response – both for as long as the pandemic continues, as well as in the post-pandemic era.

The study authors estimate that 120,630 children in the U.S. lost a primary caregiver, (a parent or grandparent responsible for providing housing, basic needs and care) due to COVID-19-associated death. In addition, 22,007 children experienced the death of a secondary caregiver (grandparents providing housing but not most basic needs). Overall, 142,637 children are estimated to have experienced the death of at least one parent, or a custodial or other co-residing grandparent caregiver.

When looking at both primary and secondary caregivers, the study found that findings varied greatly by race/ethnicity: 1 of every 168 American Indian/Alaska Native children, 1 of every 310 Black children, 1 of every 412 Hispanic children, 1 of every 612 Asian children, and 1 of every 753 White children experienced orphanhood or death of caregivers. Compared to white children, American Indian/Alaska Native children were 4.5 times more likely to lose a parent or grandparent caregiver, Black children were 2.4 times more likely, and Hispanic children were nearly 2 times (1.8) more likely.

The current study follows closely in line with a similar study published in The Lancet in July 2021, which found more than 1.5 million children around the world lost a primary or secondary caregiver during the first 14 months of the COVID-19 pandemic. In both the global and US studies, researchers used the UNICEF definition of orphanhood, as including the death of one or both parents6. The definition includes children losing one parent, because they have increased risks of mental health problems, abuse, unstable housing, and household poverty. For children raised by single parents, the COVID-19-associated death of that parent may represent loss of the person primarily responsible for providing love, security, and daily care.


https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/more-140000-us-children-lost-primary-or-secondary-caregiver-due-covid-19-pandemic

But what the heck, I've got mine, and in the long run, we're all dead anyway.

*shrug*
Anonymous
Post 11/28/2021 22:37     Subject: Montgomery- 5 more days and masks off.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Most everyone I see is wearing surgical masks or kn95 type masks. The people now wearing cloth masks are the ones who think this is only theater.

Yup. I bought one layer gauze masks from Etsy, for the rare times I need to wear one. I’ve always considered this to be theater to make the anxious feel better.


Are they embroidered with "I'm a jerk" on them, or is that unnecessary?

They look like they’re real masks, it’s really difficult to see any difference. I’ve worn them on several flights and in medical settings without incident.

So, yes, I’m a jerk. But there’s no way to tell I’ve been side stepping mask mandates since nearly day one.


They aren't real masks and just because no one says anything doesn't make it right.

But, if you are traveling and doing other things you simple don't care so when you do get covid don't complain to us abut it as we will not care either as you should have been more cautious.

But, good for the person selling them to you as they probably made a fortune.

You’re right, I don’t care. I never really cared about any of this. It was pretty clear, early on, that covid is little more than a nuisance for most people. I didn’t lose my mind over it like so many people in the DC area.

Anyway, why would I complain to some random people on the internet when I end up catching the virus? We’re all going to catch it eventually, no matter what we do.


Let us know when you will change and become a good person. And, stop complaining about covid when you are why we are still having issues.

I’m fine the way I am, thanks. Things are actually pretty good in my life. I realized pretty early on that large parts of this country were falling into mass hysteria. So, I went back to living my life as normally as possible.
Anonymous
Post 11/28/2021 21:51     Subject: Montgomery- 5 more days and masks off.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Most everyone I see is wearing surgical masks or kn95 type masks. The people now wearing cloth masks are the ones who think this is only theater.

Yup. I bought one layer gauze masks from Etsy, for the rare times I need to wear one. I’ve always considered this to be theater to make the anxious feel better.


Can you show us the evidence that they are theater? You keep posting they are theater but have yet to give us evidence of that.

The onus is on the proponents of masks to show they make a meaningful difference. I don’t have to prove anything.


You are making false statements so you absolutely are the one who needs to prove it. There is plenty of evidence masks are helpful and important. You cannot prove it which is why you haven't.

No, there’s very little evidence that masks make an appreciable difference to covid transmission. Masks making a difference is something everyone “knows”, without any real evidence.

Masks mandates mostly exist to give anxious people a feeling of control.


Ok, can you show us the evidence that says masks don't make a difference. You keep making up non-sense to justify your poor behavior but all I see are multiple studies and reports (especially look at schools reopening) where masks are a key factor in reducing transmission.

Maybe you should get help for your personality disorder and anxiety if you feel that out of control that you have to distort things to fit in your narrow thinking.
Anonymous
Post 11/28/2021 21:50     Subject: Montgomery- 5 more days and masks off.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Most everyone I see is wearing surgical masks or kn95 type masks. The people now wearing cloth masks are the ones who think this is only theater.

Yup. I bought one layer gauze masks from Etsy, for the rare times I need to wear one. I’ve always considered this to be theater to make the anxious feel better.


Are they embroidered with "I'm a jerk" on them, or is that unnecessary?

They look like they’re real masks, it’s really difficult to see any difference. I’ve worn them on several flights and in medical settings without incident.

So, yes, I’m a jerk. But there’s no way to tell I’ve been side stepping mask mandates since nearly day one.


They aren't real masks and just because no one says anything doesn't make it right.

But, if you are traveling and doing other things you simple don't care so when you do get covid don't complain to us abut it as we will not care either as you should have been more cautious.

But, good for the person selling them to you as they probably made a fortune.

You’re right, I don’t care. I never really cared about any of this. It was pretty clear, early on, that covid is little more than a nuisance for most people. I didn’t lose my mind over it like so many people in the DC area.

Anyway, why would I complain to some random people on the internet when I end up catching the virus? We’re all going to catch it eventually, no matter what we do.


Let us know when you will change and become a good person. And, stop complaining about covid when you are why we are still having issues.
Anonymous
Post 11/28/2021 21:47     Subject: Montgomery- 5 more days and masks off.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Most everyone I see is wearing surgical masks or kn95 type masks. The people now wearing cloth masks are the ones who think this is only theater.

Yup. I bought one layer gauze masks from Etsy, for the rare times I need to wear one. I’ve always considered this to be theater to make the anxious feel better.


Are they embroidered with "I'm a jerk" on them, or is that unnecessary?

They look like they’re real masks, it’s really difficult to see any difference. I’ve worn them on several flights and in medical settings without incident.

So, yes, I’m a jerk. But there’s no way to tell I’ve been side stepping mask mandates since nearly day one.


They aren't real masks and just because no one says anything doesn't make it right.

But, if you are traveling and doing other things you simple don't care so when you do get covid don't complain to us abut it as we will not care either as you should have been more cautious.

But, good for the person selling them to you as they probably made a fortune.

You’re right, I don’t care. I never really cared about any of this. It was pretty clear, early on, that covid is little more than a nuisance for most people. I didn’t lose my mind over it like so many people in the DC area.

Anyway, why would I complain to some random people on the internet when I end up catching the virus? We’re all going to catch it eventually, no matter what we do.
Anonymous
Post 11/28/2021 21:43     Subject: Montgomery- 5 more days and masks off.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Most everyone I see is wearing surgical masks or kn95 type masks. The people now wearing cloth masks are the ones who think this is only theater.

Yup. I bought one layer gauze masks from Etsy, for the rare times I need to wear one. I’ve always considered this to be theater to make the anxious feel better.


Can you show us the evidence that they are theater? You keep posting they are theater but have yet to give us evidence of that.

The onus is on the proponents of masks to show they make a meaningful difference. I don’t have to prove anything.


You are making false statements so you absolutely are the one who needs to prove it. There is plenty of evidence masks are helpful and important. You cannot prove it which is why you haven't.

No, there’s very little evidence that masks make an appreciable difference to covid transmission. Masks making a difference is something everyone “knows”, without any real evidence.

Masks mandates mostly exist to give anxious people a feeling of control.
Anonymous
Post 11/28/2021 17:46     Subject: Montgomery- 5 more days and masks off.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Most everyone I see is wearing surgical masks or kn95 type masks. The people now wearing cloth masks are the ones who think this is only theater.

Yup. I bought one layer gauze masks from Etsy, for the rare times I need to wear one. I’ve always considered this to be theater to make the anxious feel better.


Can you show us the evidence that they are theater? You keep posting they are theater but have yet to give us evidence of that.

The onus is on the proponents of masks to show they make a meaningful difference. I don’t have to prove anything.


You are making false statements so you absolutely are the one who needs to prove it. There is plenty of evidence masks are helpful and important. You cannot prove it which is why you haven't.
Anonymous
Post 11/28/2021 17:46     Subject: Montgomery- 5 more days and masks off.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Most everyone I see is wearing surgical masks or kn95 type masks. The people now wearing cloth masks are the ones who think this is only theater.

Yup. I bought one layer gauze masks from Etsy, for the rare times I need to wear one. I’ve always considered this to be theater to make the anxious feel better.


Are they embroidered with "I'm a jerk" on them, or is that unnecessary?

They look like they’re real masks, it’s really difficult to see any difference. I’ve worn them on several flights and in medical settings without incident.

So, yes, I’m a jerk. But there’s no way to tell I’ve been side stepping mask mandates since nearly day one.


They aren't real masks and just because no one says anything doesn't make it right.

But, if you are traveling and doing other things you simple don't care so when you do get covid don't complain to us abut it as we will not care either as you should have been more cautious.

But, good for the person selling them to you as they probably made a fortune.