Anonymous
Post 09/17/2025 10:54     Subject: Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

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Anonymous wrote:The bodyguards failed miserably.


Oh, please. The bodyguard were there to stop people from rushing him or attacking him face to face.
They did not have security for a shooter that was 150 yards away.

Who are the bodyguards though? That day?


Can you please drop this issue about the bodyguards? If you want this information you'll have to find it elsewhere. Like in the many videos of the event, you could look at the obvious bodyguards and then try to figure out who they are if it's so very important to you.

Regardless, after this performance I think they'll need to change fields. Better security would mean Charlie Kirk would still be alive.

The identities and hand signals of the body guards matters tremendously here.

I posted earlier but maybe mod deleted. The company is Echelon or some alternate spelling. I was able to find it easily then…not now because it was an X post. Coincidentally in that post, there was a pic that looked like the tall, baseball cap, signal guy from rally. He was sitting and smiling in an office setting at named company. Black and white logo.



Thank you.
Anonymous
Post 09/17/2025 10:53     Subject: Re:Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

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Anonymous wrote:What purportedly “intelligent” moms here are sharing about “conspiracies” makes me very reluctant to allow my children to go on play dates at UMC homes. You people need serious help.


Your assumption that these conspiracy theorists are moms is odd. This is the internet. They could be anyone who googled Charlie Kirk's name.

I am a mom and you can bet if my child was falsely accused like Tyler is being I would fight till the truth came out, even if the real murderer never had to face the consequences. I would make the truth crystal clear to everyone, and the real criminal would have to live knowing that everyone knows it wasn’t my child it was you.


Good grief.
So, when the trial happens and all the evidence is presented, and FBI agents and other testify to the evidence in court under the threat of perjury, and the defendant has an opportunity to mount a defense... you really think they are going to go with "he was falsely accused?"

I don’t think this will even make it to trial.


The evidence is overwhelming. But, if the state wants the death penalty, it will have to go to trial.

The evidence is such poor quality. This is terrifying.


They have video evidence, DNA evidence, forensic evidence, digital evidence which includes a confession.
This is far more evidence than investigators had for the monster who killed the 4 Idaho college students.
But, tell us about how it is of "such poor quality." You really are a nut.

There are potentially hundreds of suspects here, it was a crowded campus. The DNA could have been easily planted, do they have any evidence of him holding the gun? He didn’t confess in person.


They have the guy who killed Kirk. Why are you trying so desperately to make him innocent?
Anonymous
Post 09/17/2025 10:50     Subject: Re:Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

I think that Tyler had some kind of slow mental deterioration over the past few years. He didn't have any prior issues with the law. His family was all MAGA. The MAGAs I know do not trust medical professionals and definitely do not trust mental health professionals. I'm willing to bet that the family knew that he was having mental health issues but did not attempt to get him any help. Maybe they shunned him because he was gay or whatever. They also supplied him with guns and taught him to shoot those guns with accuracy. They are partially responsible IMO. I don't think someone with mental health issues should be put to death.
Anonymous
Post 09/17/2025 10:47     Subject: Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

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Anonymous wrote:The bodyguards failed miserably.


Oh, please. The bodyguard were there to stop people from rushing him or attacking him face to face.
They did not have security for a shooter that was 150 yards away.

Who are the bodyguards though? That day?


Can you please drop this issue about the bodyguards? If you want this information you'll have to find it elsewhere. Like in the many videos of the event, you could look at the obvious bodyguards and then try to figure out who they are if it's so very important to you.

Regardless, after this performance I think they'll need to change fields. Better security would mean Charlie Kirk would still be alive.

The identities and hand signals of the body guards matters tremendously here.

I posted earlier but maybe mod deleted. The company is Echelon or some alternate spelling. I was able to find it easily then…not now because it was an X post. Coincidentally in that post, there was a pic that looked like the tall, baseball cap, signal guy from rally. He was sitting and smiling in an office setting at named company. Black and white logo.


Anonymous
Post 09/17/2025 10:40     Subject: Re:Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

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Anonymous wrote:What purportedly “intelligent” moms here are sharing about “conspiracies” makes me very reluctant to allow my children to go on play dates at UMC homes. You people need serious help.


Your assumption that these conspiracy theorists are moms is odd. This is the internet. They could be anyone who googled Charlie Kirk's name.

I am a mom and you can bet if my child was falsely accused like Tyler is being I would fight till the truth came out, even if the real murderer never had to face the consequences. I would make the truth crystal clear to everyone, and the real criminal would have to live knowing that everyone knows it wasn’t my child it was you.


Good grief.
So, when the trial happens and all the evidence is presented, and FBI agents and other testify to the evidence in court under the threat of perjury, and the defendant has an opportunity to mount a defense... you really think they are going to go with "he was falsely accused?"

I don’t think this will even make it to trial.


The evidence is overwhelming. But, if the state wants the death penalty, it will have to go to trial.

The evidence is such poor quality. This is terrifying.


They have video evidence, DNA evidence, forensic evidence, digital evidence which includes a confession.
This is far more evidence than investigators had for the monster who killed the 4 Idaho college students.
But, tell us about how it is of "such poor quality." You really are a nut.

There are potentially hundreds of suspects here, it was a crowded campus. The DNA could have been easily planted, do they have any evidence of him holding the gun? He didn’t confess in person.
Anonymous
Post 09/17/2025 10:38     Subject: Re:Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

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Anonymous wrote:What purportedly “intelligent” moms here are sharing about “conspiracies” makes me very reluctant to allow my children to go on play dates at UMC homes. You people need serious help.


Your assumption that these conspiracy theorists are moms is odd. This is the internet. They could be anyone who googled Charlie Kirk's name.

I am a mom and you can bet if my child was falsely accused like Tyler is being I would fight till the truth came out, even if the real murderer never had to face the consequences. I would make the truth crystal clear to everyone, and the real criminal would have to live knowing that everyone knows it wasn’t my child it was you.


Good grief.
So, when the trial happens and all the evidence is presented, and FBI agents and other testify to the evidence in court under the threat of perjury, and the defendant has an opportunity to mount a defense... you really think they are going to go with "he was falsely accused?"

I don’t think this will even make it to trial.

Because he’ll plead guilty or because he’ll be dead before this goes to trial?

I think he’ll plead guilty


Even if they don’t take the death penalty off the table? Seems unlikely they would do that.

I don’t think he’ll receive a fair trial at this point.


he can't receive a fair trail after all of the (fake) information that Patel has put onto the public realm.


Just stop. You are sounding more and more unhinged.


I feel like one of his young discord friends has found this cite and is trying to help his friend. but kiddo: this will definitely not work.
Anonymous
Post 09/17/2025 10:35     Subject: Re:Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

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Anonymous wrote:What purportedly “intelligent” moms here are sharing about “conspiracies” makes me very reluctant to allow my children to go on play dates at UMC homes. You people need serious help.


Your assumption that these conspiracy theorists are moms is odd. This is the internet. They could be anyone who googled Charlie Kirk's name.

I am a mom and you can bet if my child was falsely accused like Tyler is being I would fight till the truth came out, even if the real murderer never had to face the consequences. I would make the truth crystal clear to everyone, and the real criminal would have to live knowing that everyone knows it wasn’t my child it was you.


Good grief.
So, when the trial happens and all the evidence is presented, and FBI agents and other testify to the evidence in court under the threat of perjury, and the defendant has an opportunity to mount a defense... you really think they are going to go with "he was falsely accused?"

I don’t think this will even make it to trial.

Because he’ll plead guilty or because he’ll be dead before this goes to trial?

I think he’ll plead guilty


Even if they don’t take the death penalty off the table? Seems unlikely they would do that.

I don’t think he’ll receive a fair trial at this point.


he can't receive a fair trail after all of the (fake) information that Patel has put onto the public realm.


Just stop. You are sounding more and more unhinged.
Anonymous
Post 09/17/2025 10:34     Subject: Re:Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

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Anonymous wrote:What purportedly “intelligent” moms here are sharing about “conspiracies” makes me very reluctant to allow my children to go on play dates at UMC homes. You people need serious help.


Your assumption that these conspiracy theorists are moms is odd. This is the internet. They could be anyone who googled Charlie Kirk's name.

I am a mom and you can bet if my child was falsely accused like Tyler is being I would fight till the truth came out, even if the real murderer never had to face the consequences. I would make the truth crystal clear to everyone, and the real criminal would have to live knowing that everyone knows it wasn’t my child it was you.


Good grief.
So, when the trial happens and all the evidence is presented, and FBI agents and other testify to the evidence in court under the threat of perjury, and the defendant has an opportunity to mount a defense... you really think they are going to go with "he was falsely accused?"

I don’t think this will even make it to trial.


The evidence is overwhelming. But, if the state wants the death penalty, it will have to go to trial.

The evidence is such poor quality. This is terrifying.


They have video evidence, DNA evidence, forensic evidence, digital evidence which includes a confession.
This is far more evidence than investigators had for the monster who killed the 4 Idaho college students.
But, tell us about how it is of "such poor quality." You really are a nut.
Anonymous
Post 09/17/2025 10:33     Subject: Re:Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

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Anonymous wrote:What purportedly “intelligent” moms here are sharing about “conspiracies” makes me very reluctant to allow my children to go on play dates at UMC homes. You people need serious help.


Your assumption that these conspiracy theorists are moms is odd. This is the internet. They could be anyone who googled Charlie Kirk's name.

I am a mom and you can bet if my child was falsely accused like Tyler is being I would fight till the truth came out, even if the real murderer never had to face the consequences. I would make the truth crystal clear to everyone, and the real criminal would have to live knowing that everyone knows it wasn’t my child it was you.


Good grief.
So, when the trial happens and all the evidence is presented, and FBI agents and other testify to the evidence in court under the threat of perjury, and the defendant has an opportunity to mount a defense... you really think they are going to go with "he was falsely accused?"

I don’t think this will even make it to trial.

Because he’ll plead guilty or because he’ll be dead before this goes to trial?

I think he’ll plead guilty


Even if they don’t take the death penalty off the table? Seems unlikely they would do that.

I don’t think he’ll receive a fair trial at this point.


he can't receive a fair trail after all of the (fake) information that Patel has put onto the public realm.
Anonymous
Post 09/17/2025 10:32     Subject: Re:Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What purportedly “intelligent” moms here are sharing about “conspiracies” makes me very reluctant to allow my children to go on play dates at UMC homes. You people need serious help.


Your assumption that these conspiracy theorists are moms is odd. This is the internet. They could be anyone who googled Charlie Kirk's name.

I am a mom and you can bet if my child was falsely accused like Tyler is being I would fight till the truth came out, even if the real murderer never had to face the consequences. I would make the truth crystal clear to everyone, and the real criminal would have to live knowing that everyone knows it wasn’t my child it was you.


Good grief.
So, when the trial happens and all the evidence is presented, and FBI agents and other testify to the evidence in court under the threat of perjury, and the defendant has an opportunity to mount a defense... you really think they are going to go with "he was falsely accused?"

I don’t think this will even make it to trial.

Because he’ll plead guilty or because he’ll be dead before this goes to trial?

I think he’ll plead guilty


Even if they don’t take the death penalty off the table? Seems unlikely they would do that.

I don’t think he’ll receive a fair trial at this point.
Anonymous
Post 09/17/2025 10:30     Subject: Re:Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

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Anonymous wrote:What purportedly “intelligent” moms here are sharing about “conspiracies” makes me very reluctant to allow my children to go on play dates at UMC homes. You people need serious help.


Your assumption that these conspiracy theorists are moms is odd. This is the internet. They could be anyone who googled Charlie Kirk's name.

I am a mom and you can bet if my child was falsely accused like Tyler is being I would fight till the truth came out, even if the real murderer never had to face the consequences. I would make the truth crystal clear to everyone, and the real criminal would have to live knowing that everyone knows it wasn’t my child it was you.


Good grief.
So, when the trial happens and all the evidence is presented, and FBI agents and other testify to the evidence in court under the threat of perjury, and the defendant has an opportunity to mount a defense... you really think they are going to go with "he was falsely accused?"

I don’t think this will even make it to trial.

Because he’ll plead guilty or because he’ll be dead before this goes to trial?

I think he’ll plead guilty


Even if they don’t take the death penalty off the table? Seems unlikely they would do that.
Anonymous
Post 09/17/2025 10:29     Subject: Re:Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What purportedly “intelligent” moms here are sharing about “conspiracies” makes me very reluctant to allow my children to go on play dates at UMC homes. You people need serious help.


Your assumption that these conspiracy theorists are moms is odd. This is the internet. They could be anyone who googled Charlie Kirk's name.

I am a mom and you can bet if my child was falsely accused like Tyler is being I would fight till the truth came out, even if the real murderer never had to face the consequences. I would make the truth crystal clear to everyone, and the real criminal would have to live knowing that everyone knows it wasn’t my child it was you.


Good grief.
So, when the trial happens and all the evidence is presented, and FBI agents and other testify to the evidence in court under the threat of perjury, and the defendant has an opportunity to mount a defense... you really think they are going to go with "he was falsely accused?"

I don’t think this will even make it to trial.

Because he’ll plead guilty or because he’ll be dead before this goes to trial?

I think he’ll plead guilty
Anonymous
Post 09/17/2025 10:28     Subject: Re:Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What purportedly “intelligent” moms here are sharing about “conspiracies” makes me very reluctant to allow my children to go on play dates at UMC homes. You people need serious help.


Your assumption that these conspiracy theorists are moms is odd. This is the internet. They could be anyone who googled Charlie Kirk's name.

I am a mom and you can bet if my child was falsely accused like Tyler is being I would fight till the truth came out, even if the real murderer never had to face the consequences. I would make the truth crystal clear to everyone, and the real criminal would have to live knowing that everyone knows it wasn’t my child it was you.


Good grief.
So, when the trial happens and all the evidence is presented, and FBI agents and other testify to the evidence in court under the threat of perjury, and the defendant has an opportunity to mount a defense... you really think they are going to go with "he was falsely accused?"

I don’t think this will even make it to trial.


The evidence is overwhelming. But, if the state wants the death penalty, it will have to go to trial.

The evidence is such poor quality. This is terrifying.
Anonymous
Post 09/17/2025 10:25     Subject: Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The bodyguards failed miserably.


Oh, please. The bodyguard were there to stop people from rushing him or attacking him face to face.
They did not have security for a shooter that was 150 yards away.

Who are the bodyguards though? That day?


Can you please drop this issue about the bodyguards? If you want this information you'll have to find it elsewhere. Like in the many videos of the event, you could look at the obvious bodyguards and then try to figure out who they are if it's so very important to you.

Regardless, after this performance I think they'll need to change fields. Better security would mean Charlie Kirk would still be alive.

The identities and hand signals of the body guards matters tremendously here.

I posted earlier but maybe mod deleted. The company is Echelon or some alternate spelling. I was able to find it easily then…not now because it was an X post. Coincidentally in that post, there was a pic that looked like the tall, baseball cap, signal guy from rally. He was sitting and smiling in an office setting at named company. Black and white logo.
Anonymous
Post 09/17/2025 10:23     Subject: Re:Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

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Anonymous wrote:What purportedly “intelligent” moms here are sharing about “conspiracies” makes me very reluctant to allow my children to go on play dates at UMC homes. You people need serious help.


Your assumption that these conspiracy theorists are moms is odd. This is the internet. They could be anyone who googled Charlie Kirk's name.

I am a mom and you can bet if my child was falsely accused like Tyler is being I would fight till the truth came out, even if the real murderer never had to face the consequences. I would make the truth crystal clear to everyone, and the real criminal would have to live knowing that everyone knows it wasn’t my child it was you.

I’m not buying your conspiracy theory that Tyler is the fall guy and not the real killer, but I’ll play along. What would you do if the people setting up your son are among the most powerful people in the world and they’re willing to kill whoever they have to, to sell this story to the public. You can’t keep your other 3 kids safe from them unless you play along. They can get to your family no matter what you do to try to evade them.

How are we allowing something like this to happen? If I had to die defending my innocent child I would.

And you’d risk the lives of your other 3 kids to do so? Because Tyler’s parents have 4 children.

Yes, I would make everyone aware that my son is innocent and being framed. If someone wanted to murder me for defending the truth so be it. People will see it for what it really is.

Well, a lot of mothers wouldn’t gamble the lives of their other 3 kids to fight for the one who MAGA is never going to allow to walk free.


Are you one of the crazies here who think he is innocent and that he is being framed?

No, if you read through this exchange, I don’t buy that theory.