Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I believe there is an issue with tips not being followed up on (as discussed earlier in this thread) as well as with the investigations conducted into the tips. I know of someone who was investigated for residency fraud and cleared the appeals process in spite of having very poor documentation. In that case, it was not a false address provided but rather an informal custody grant (ie, a letter saying that child needed to stay with grandparents for a period due to financial instability of the parents). I was floored that the case was dropped. I mention this to point out two things: (1) tips don't help if the follow-up process is flawed or deficient, and (2) it is not always residency fraud but sometimes false custody arrangements.
And what's the issue with a child staying with their grandparents when they need to? I don't understand the kind of mean-spirited person who seems to think that a case like this is fraud. I know more than a few families like that all over Shepherd Park. Are those kids not entitled to go to Shepherd?
PP here. The child in question was not staying with the grandparents. Not at all. Nor was there any financial instability. I agree that there are complicated situations out there, but this was not one and I was surprised that a letter regarding an informal custody arrangement was sufficient for years and years.
How do you know there was no financial instability?
I feel like this is an area in which the expectations of middle class white folks butt up against cultural realities in communities of color. Informal kinship care is much more common in communities of color than it is in the white communities. So much more common, for a whole ton of reasons that run the gamut from communities of color being less geographically spread out, to a history of wanting to keep kids out of the system. So...you do get kids living informally with their grandparents but no formal change of custody.
This can be confusing for white folks encountering it for the first time, and look like fraud. In reality, it is a cultural difference.
For goodness sake, why do folks always blurt out the exceptions - we get it![]()
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If there is a legit reason you are staying with grandma provide the docs and keep it moving. However, there is no way that most of the fraud is the exception to the rule. Grandma's kids can stay
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The point is that it is informal, there is family instability, so there are not always "docs".
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I believe there is an issue with tips not being followed up on (as discussed earlier in this thread) as well as with the investigations conducted into the tips. I know of someone who was investigated for residency fraud and cleared the appeals process in spite of having very poor documentation. In that case, it was not a false address provided but rather an informal custody grant (ie, a letter saying that child needed to stay with grandparents for a period due to financial instability of the parents). I was floored that the case was dropped. I mention this to point out two things: (1) tips don't help if the follow-up process is flawed or deficient, and (2) it is not always residency fraud but sometimes false custody arrangements.
And what's the issue with a child staying with their grandparents when they need to? I don't understand the kind of mean-spirited person who seems to think that a case like this is fraud. I know more than a few families like that all over Shepherd Park. Are those kids not entitled to go to Shepherd?
PP here. The child in question was not staying with the grandparents. Not at all. Nor was there any financial instability. I agree that there are complicated situations out there, but this was not one and I was surprised that a letter regarding an informal custody arrangement was sufficient for years and years.
How do you know there was no financial instability?
I feel like this is an area in which the expectations of middle class white folks butt up against cultural realities in communities of color. Informal kinship care is much more common in communities of color than it is in the white communities. So much more common, for a whole ton of reasons that run the gamut from communities of color being less geographically spread out, to a history of wanting to keep kids out of the system. So...you do get kids living informally with their grandparents but no formal change of custody.
This can be confusing for white folks encountering it for the first time, and look like fraud. In reality, it is a cultural difference.
For goodness sake, why do folks always blurt out the exceptions - we get it![]()
![]()
If there is a legit reason you are staying with grandma provide the docs and keep it moving. However, there is no way that most of the fraud is the exception to the rule. Grandma's kids can stay
![]()
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The point is that it is informal, there is family instability, so there are not always "docs".
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
This is JAW DROPPING (if true.)
OF COURSE it's true. What's jaw-dropping is that only Republicans (Daily Caller is nothing of not Republican) will actually tell the truth. This corruption-riddled Democrat-machine town would rather live with corruption than admit to it.
Why is it jaw-dropping that municipal employees live outside the city limits? Why do you care where the bus driver, or the clerk who takes parking ticket money at city hall lives?
Can you read? What's jaw-dropping is that it takes a Republican to tell the truth. According to your logic: obviously city employees are Democrats, don't live in DC, and are incapable of truth-telling. Screw 'em.
What are you even talking about? Someone quoted the part about many municipal employees living outside DC proper. Someone else said such a thing would be jaw-dropping. My question is why is it jaw-dropping? Why do you care how many city employees live outside DC? It isn't illegal or fraudulent to live in a neighboring jurisdiction, even if you are a city employee.
It's jaw droping because out of the hundreds of places to live around DC, they're almost ALL in PG county? Why not Montgomery County, Virginia, Howard, etc. All PG? Why? Seems like a bunch of people hiring their friends for it to be that much ofr a trend.
Why PG? Because it's right over the District line and has very cheap property prices compared to Nova and MoCo. It's also under-developed, so your money stretches even further.
Are you the same person who was critiquing the article for not following lawyers home to MoCo who were stealing DC school or called the authors racist for focusing on PG County? Just curious, cuz that would be weird.
Anonymous wrote:The editing is definitely shoddy, but if this is the spotlight that's finally bright enough to force DC to do the right thing then that's wonderful. I'll take more Republicans every day of the week. We've been getting shafted because of corruption and cronyism and graft for decades.
I don't care if you work downtown. I don't care if your nana lives on the Hill. You don't. Pay taxes or get the hell out.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I believe there is an issue with tips not being followed up on (as discussed earlier in this thread) as well as with the investigations conducted into the tips. I know of someone who was investigated for residency fraud and cleared the appeals process in spite of having very poor documentation. In that case, it was not a false address provided but rather an informal custody grant (ie, a letter saying that child needed to stay with grandparents for a period due to financial instability of the parents). I was floored that the case was dropped. I mention this to point out two things: (1) tips don't help if the follow-up process is flawed or deficient, and (2) it is not always residency fraud but sometimes false custody arrangements.
And what's the issue with a child staying with their grandparents when they need to? I don't understand the kind of mean-spirited person who seems to think that a case like this is fraud. I know more than a few families like that all over Shepherd Park. Are those kids not entitled to go to Shepherd?
PP here. The child in question was not staying with the grandparents. Not at all. Nor was there any financial instability. I agree that there are complicated situations out there, but this was not one and I was surprised that a letter regarding an informal custody arrangement was sufficient for years and years.
How do you know there was no financial instability?
I feel like this is an area in which the expectations of middle class white folks butt up against cultural realities in communities of color. Informal kinship care is much more common in communities of color than it is in the white communities. So much more common, for a whole ton of reasons that run the gamut from communities of color being less geographically spread out, to a history of wanting to keep kids out of the system. So...you do get kids living informally with their grandparents but no formal change of custody.
This can be confusing for white folks encountering it for the first time, and look like fraud. In reality, it is a cultural difference.
For goodness sake, why do folks always blurt out the exceptions - we get it![]()
![]()
If there is a legit reason you are staying with grandma provide the docs and keep it moving. However, there is no way that most of the fraud is the exception to the rule. Grandma's kids can stay
![]()
![]()
![]()
The point is that it is informal, there is family instability, so there are not always "docs".
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I believe there is an issue with tips not being followed up on (as discussed earlier in this thread) as well as with the investigations conducted into the tips. I know of someone who was investigated for residency fraud and cleared the appeals process in spite of having very poor documentation. In that case, it was not a false address provided but rather an informal custody grant (ie, a letter saying that child needed to stay with grandparents for a period due to financial instability of the parents). I was floored that the case was dropped. I mention this to point out two things: (1) tips don't help if the follow-up process is flawed or deficient, and (2) it is not always residency fraud but sometimes false custody arrangements.
And what's the issue with a child staying with their grandparents when they need to? I don't understand the kind of mean-spirited person who seems to think that a case like this is fraud. I know more than a few families like that all over Shepherd Park. Are those kids not entitled to go to Shepherd?
PP here. The child in question was not staying with the grandparents. Not at all. Nor was there any financial instability. I agree that there are complicated situations out there, but this was not one and I was surprised that a letter regarding an informal custody arrangement was sufficient for years and years.
How do you know there was no financial instability?
I feel like this is an area in which the expectations of middle class white folks butt up against cultural realities in communities of color. Informal kinship care is much more common in communities of color than it is in the white communities. So much more common, for a whole ton of reasons that run the gamut from communities of color being less geographically spread out, to a history of wanting to keep kids out of the system. So...you do get kids living informally with their grandparents but no formal change of custody.
This can be confusing for white folks encountering it for the first time, and look like fraud. In reality, it is a cultural difference.
For goodness sake, why do folks always blurt out the exceptions - we get it![]()
![]()
If there is a legit reason you are staying with grandma provide the docs and keep it moving. However, there is no way that most of the fraud is the exception to the rule. Grandma's kids can stay
![]()
![]()
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The point is that it is informal, there is family instability, so there are not always "docs".
Anonymous wrote:
This is JAW DROPPING (if true.)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I believe there is an issue with tips not being followed up on (as discussed earlier in this thread) as well as with the investigations conducted into the tips. I know of someone who was investigated for residency fraud and cleared the appeals process in spite of having very poor documentation. In that case, it was not a false address provided but rather an informal custody grant (ie, a letter saying that child needed to stay with grandparents for a period due to financial instability of the parents). I was floored that the case was dropped. I mention this to point out two things: (1) tips don't help if the follow-up process is flawed or deficient, and (2) it is not always residency fraud but sometimes false custody arrangements.
And what's the issue with a child staying with their grandparents when they need to? I don't understand the kind of mean-spirited person who seems to think that a case like this is fraud. I know more than a few families like that all over Shepherd Park. Are those kids not entitled to go to Shepherd?
PP here. The child in question was not staying with the grandparents. Not at all. Nor was there any financial instability. I agree that there are complicated situations out there, but this was not one and I was surprised that a letter regarding an informal custody arrangement was sufficient for years and years.
How do you know there was no financial instability?
I feel like this is an area in which the expectations of middle class white folks butt up against cultural realities in communities of color. Informal kinship care is much more common in communities of color than it is in the white communities. So much more common, for a whole ton of reasons that run the gamut from communities of color being less geographically spread out, to a history of wanting to keep kids out of the system. So...you do get kids living informally with their grandparents but no formal change of custody.
This can be confusing for white folks encountering it for the first time, and look like fraud. In reality, it is a cultural difference.
For goodness sake, why do folks always blurt out the exceptions - we get it![]()
![]()
If there is a legit reason you are staying with grandma provide the docs and keep it moving. However, there is no way that most of the fraud is the exception to the rule. Grandma's kids can stay
![]()
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Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I believe there is an issue with tips not being followed up on (as discussed earlier in this thread) as well as with the investigations conducted into the tips. I know of someone who was investigated for residency fraud and cleared the appeals process in spite of having very poor documentation. In that case, it was not a false address provided but rather an informal custody grant (ie, a letter saying that child needed to stay with grandparents for a period due to financial instability of the parents). I was floored that the case was dropped. I mention this to point out two things: (1) tips don't help if the follow-up process is flawed or deficient, and (2) it is not always residency fraud but sometimes false custody arrangements.
And what's the issue with a child staying with their grandparents when they need to? I don't understand the kind of mean-spirited person who seems to think that a case like this is fraud. I know more than a few families like that all over Shepherd Park. Are those kids not entitled to go to Shepherd?
PP here. The child in question was not staying with the grandparents. Not at all. Nor was there any financial instability. I agree that there are complicated situations out there, but this was not one and I was surprised that a letter regarding an informal custody arrangement was sufficient for years and years.
How do you know there was no financial instability?
I feel like this is an area in which the expectations of middle class white folks butt up against cultural realities in communities of color. Informal kinship care is much more common in communities of color than it is in the white communities. So much more common, for a whole ton of reasons that run the gamut from communities of color being less geographically spread out, to a history of wanting to keep kids out of the system. So...you do get kids living informally with their grandparents but no formal change of custody.
This can be confusing for white folks encountering it for the first time, and look like fraud. In reality, it is a cultural difference.
If there is a legit reason you are staying with grandma provide the docs and keep it moving. However, there is no way that most of the fraud is the exception to the rule. Grandma's kids can stay
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I believe there is an issue with tips not being followed up on (as discussed earlier in this thread) as well as with the investigations conducted into the tips. I know of someone who was investigated for residency fraud and cleared the appeals process in spite of having very poor documentation. In that case, it was not a false address provided but rather an informal custody grant (ie, a letter saying that child needed to stay with grandparents for a period due to financial instability of the parents). I was floored that the case was dropped. I mention this to point out two things: (1) tips don't help if the follow-up process is flawed or deficient, and (2) it is not always residency fraud but sometimes false custody arrangements.
And what's the issue with a child staying with their grandparents when they need to? I don't understand the kind of mean-spirited person who seems to think that a case like this is fraud. I know more than a few families like that all over Shepherd Park. Are those kids not entitled to go to Shepherd?
PP here. The child in question was not staying with the grandparents. Not at all. Nor was there any financial instability. I agree that there are complicated situations out there, but this was not one and I was surprised that a letter regarding an informal custody arrangement was sufficient for years and years.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I believe there is an issue with tips not being followed up on (as discussed earlier in this thread) as well as with the investigations conducted into the tips. I know of someone who was investigated for residency fraud and cleared the appeals process in spite of having very poor documentation. In that case, it was not a false address provided but rather an informal custody grant (ie, a letter saying that child needed to stay with grandparents for a period due to financial instability of the parents). I was floored that the case was dropped. I mention this to point out two things: (1) tips don't help if the follow-up process is flawed or deficient, and (2) it is not always residency fraud but sometimes false custody arrangements.
And what's the issue with a child staying with their grandparents when they need to? I don't understand the kind of mean-spirited person who seems to think that a case like this is fraud. I know more than a few families like that all over Shepherd Park. Are those kids not entitled to go to Shepherd?
Anonymous wrote:The editing is definitely shoddy, but if this is the spotlight that's finally bright enough to force DC to do the right thing then that's wonderful. I'll take more Republicans every day of the week. We've been getting shafted because of corruption and cronyism and graft for decades.
I don't care if you work downtown. I don't care if your nana lives on the Hill. You don't. Pay taxes or get the hell out.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I believe there is an issue with tips not being followed up on (as discussed earlier in this thread) as well as with the investigations conducted into the tips. I know of someone who was investigated for residency fraud and cleared the appeals process in spite of having very poor documentation. In that case, it was not a false address provided but rather an informal custody grant (ie, a letter saying that child needed to stay with grandparents for a period due to financial instability of the parents). I was floored that the case was dropped. I mention this to point out two things: (1) tips don't help if the follow-up process is flawed or deficient, and (2) it is not always residency fraud but sometimes false custody arrangements.
And what's the issue with a child staying with their grandparents when they need to? I don't understand the kind of mean-spirited person who seems to think that a case like this is fraud. I know more than a few families like that all over Shepherd Park. Are those kids not entitled to go to Shepherd?
Anonymous wrote:I believe there is an issue with tips not being followed up on (as discussed earlier in this thread) as well as with the investigations conducted into the tips. I know of someone who was investigated for residency fraud and cleared the appeals process in spite of having very poor documentation. In that case, it was not a false address provided but rather an informal custody grant (ie, a letter saying that child needed to stay with grandparents for a period due to financial instability of the parents). I was floored that the case was dropped. I mention this to point out two things: (1) tips don't help if the follow-up process is flawed or deficient, and (2) it is not always residency fraud but sometimes false custody arrangements.