Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Please help. Should we submit a wisc like this....

Full scale = 122
Gab = 125
Verbal = 121
Visual = 129
Fluid = 121
Wm = 115
Process = 111

Nnat was 129, cogat 120.

We didn't prep for anything....my son is in gen Ed for 3rd and it's not working. don't know gbrs.

I don't see how that wisc will generate an acceptance.

+1

Ask the AART about the GBRS. Maybe retake the CogAT or NNAT in 4th grade? The WISC scores are not high enough.

Would you leave it out?
I plan to have him retake cogat next year. Does the low wisc prejudice anything you submit in future years?

Anonymous wrote:Please help. Should we submit a wisc like this....

Full scale = 122
Gab = 125
Verbal = 121
Visual = 129
Fluid = 121
Wm = 115
Process = 111

Nnat was 129, cogat 120.

We didn't prep for anything....my son is in gen Ed for 3rd and it's not working. don't know gbrs.

I don't see how that wisc will generate an acceptance.

Please help. Should we submit a wisc like this....

Full scale = 122
Gab = 125
Verbal = 121
Visual = 129
Fluid = 121
Wm = 115
Process = 111

Nnat was 129, cogat 120.

We didn't prep for anything....my son is in gen Ed for 3rd and it's not working. don't know gbrs.

Anonymous wrote:Would they even consider an appeal with only work samples, recommendation letters and no new test scores??

Thank you all for your input. It is truly appeciated!

yes, if the student already has high test scores (like a 152 NNAT).

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:what are my chances to get in if I appeal

Verbal 118
Visual 111
Fluid 121
Working 117
Processing 114
Full Scale I.Q. 123

GBRS is low (7)

NNAT 152 (99%)
COGAT (130) (around 95%)
Report Card - Most 4s and few 3s

Yes, appeal but leave out the WISC. Show things that support that your child is not being best served in GE. You need to show that the GBRS is wrong.

+1

Include the optional Parent Questionnaire and include work samples that back up what you have stated in the questionnaire.

Would they even consider an appeal with only work samples, recommendation letters and no new test scores??

Thank you all for your input. It is truly appeciated!

Thoughts on appealing? we are still mulling over

FSIQ - 125 with FRI 99%, VSI 96%
NNAT and COgat both 128, GBRS < 10

Anonymous wrote:what are my chances to get in if I appeal

Verbal 118
Visual 111
Fluid 121
Working 117
Processing 114
Full Scale I.Q. 123

GBRS is low (7)

NNAT 152 (99%)
COGAT (130) (around 95%)
Report Card - Most 4s and few 3s

Yes, appeal but leave out the WISC. Show things that support that your child is not being best served in GE. You need to show that the GBRS is wrong.

Low 120's WISC might be okay to include if the child has a high GBRS and low CogAT. But it certainly won't help if the child has a low GBRS and higher test scores.

For the PP: Why not appeal, just to avoid having to deal with all of it in the future? If you don't appeal, but decide that you want Level IV down the road, you have to jump through all of the hoops of applying again. If you appeal, there's some chance that the whole process will be over. You don't necessarily have to decide to place your child at the center next year, even if you get in.

NP, but I'd be interested to hear follow-ups from people who appealed. Did your kid(s) get in? What new material did you submit (WISC scores, letters, work samples, etc)? If your kid is attending a Level IV Center or getting those services, is he/she happy and doing well? If not, are they receiving Level III services at the base school and doing well there?

Sorry for all the questions, I'm a parent who is still deciding whether to appeal and running out of time .

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:what are my chances to get in if I appeal

Verbal 118
Visual 111
Fluid 121
Working 117
Processing 114
Full Scale I.Q. 123

GBRS is low (7)

NNAT 152 (99%)
COGAT (130) (around 95%)
Report Card - Most 4s and few 3s

I don't think they're that great but you paid for the WISC so try. I just don't see a 123 doing it and there are no stand out sub scores.

The only new thing if the FSIQ and I don't think a 123 is high enough for admission. Good luck, though.

Appeal without the WISC. The other scores are high and the WISC tends to support the lower GBRS. Say your kid is shy and performs best in an environment that provides a rigorous curriculum rather than one which requires her to seek out enrichment because of her introverted nature. That was the case for my child whose GBRS wasn't as high as test scores. The teacher said my child was capable of doing more, but he doesn't give extra work to kids who don't ask for it, and the kids who asked for it are the ones who belong in AAP. I encouraged DC to ask for work if she wanted, but she asked for me to give her extra math at home instead. She loved math and was working way ahead of what they were doing in class, but just didn't feel comfortable asking the teacher, and she was a second grader so I didn't see the point in making her be more vocal.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thank you for your reply. I was also going to submit some extra work of her ability. A book report, games she created, document how she taught herself to knit.
Am I grasping.
Her brothers are in the program. Having seen the program I know she is more than capable

I'm a different poster. If you have other things to submit, I would think about not submitting the WISC score. A 120 really is not going to help you.

Yes, leave the WISC out, submit the other things that show her creativity, out-of-the-box thinking.

Anonymous wrote:Thank you for your reply. I was also going to submit some extra work of her ability. A book report, games she created, document how she taught herself to knit.
Am I grasping.
Her brothers are in the program. Having seen the program I know she is more than capable

I'm a different poster. If you have other things to submit, I would think about not submitting the WISC score. A 120 really is not going to help you.

If you think your child can handle the program, you might as well try. Not appealing is a definite "No", so what do you really have to lose by appealing?