Anonymous wrote:Watched the after show and am blown away that Whitaker actually has a British accent!

He’s Welsh!

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Anonymous wrote:Santos is one-note. Unconvincingly played. Would not believe she was an MD if she showed up in my ER cubicle.

This is the problem.

+1 wouldn’t mind if she left the show honestly. Her storyline is stale.

I can’t stand Santos. The eye rolling and puffing is getting so old. The way she treated the deaf patient… abhorrent. And when they finally got an interpreter, she got annoyed that they were greeting each other and left with a passive aggressive “I’ll give you time to get acquainted.” That poor woman that had been waiting in pain for hours!

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Anonymous wrote:Langdon didn’t get off with a pass. Santos is sanctimonious with the limited perspective of youth. Everyone makes mistakes. Everyone screws up. The majority of people deserve a second chance. He’s trying to make right, he’s not perfect.

Life is not black or white, it’s a lot of gray

Agree. I find Santos super annoying and sanctimonious. He's apologizing and taking ownership. Who is she to decide what he has to disclose about his addiction and actions? Maybe he SHOULD be in jail. But he's not. And is trying to take responsibility while building his career back.

I do not get the people who pile on others trying to do better or the right thing.

The other issue is thay even if Langdon was 100% wrong, Santos continuing to focus on this is ultimately sabotaging herself. The call was made almost a year ago at this point. Santos has managed to alienate everyone and instead of self examining is putting it on Langdon. This is what Garcia was trying to tell her.

I had a thought about a potential suicide plot line.

I think the show is really pushing us to think that Robby might attempt suicide. Riding his bike without a helmet. Talking like he's not coming back. Giving Whitaker his house. Being unable to look at Abbott when he talks about "dark thoughts". Zooming in on his face, near tears, when Al-Hashidi asked the mom of the little boy if she had thoughts about hurting herself.

I think it's a feint. I think someone else is going to make an attempt. Someone who no one is particularly worried about and in fact might be generally annoyed by and wishing they would just... go away. Someone who perhaps is annoying specifically because they are in a lot of psychic pain and have a host of maladaptive behaviors to try and deal with negative and intrusive thoughts. Someone who was a survivor of childhood abuse, and has a history of self harm (cutting). Someone who feels isolated (like a pariah) and feels trapped in a difficult professional situation with no good out. Someone who doesn't seem to have any close friends and also might be experiencing feelings of abandonment because their sort-of girlfriend just dumped them and their roommate is about to move out. Someone who is under a lot of pressure at work and whose new boss told them they might not get through their R2 year if they can't dig out of the hole they're in on charting. And someone whose only true ally in the ED, Robby, is about to leave.

I think it might be Santos.

I like Santos and think her storyline is one of the more compelling ones on the show. I think she is the character with the most potential for growth and surprise, whereas a lot of the other characters can really only let you down. There's a lot "very likable but flawed" characters on the show, so to me it's nice to have at least a couple people who are antagonistic but with potential. There are more places to take that.

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Anonymous wrote:Santos is one-note. Unconvincingly played. Would not believe she was an MD if she showed up in my ER cubicle.

This is the problem.

+1 wouldn’t mind if she left the show honestly. Her storyline is stale.

Anonymous wrote:Santos is one-note. Unconvincingly played. Would not believe she was an MD if she showed up in my ER cubicle.

This is the problem.

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Anonymous wrote:I can’t stand the way Robby treats Mohan, probably the best doctor there, with empathy to boot. So hard on her.

He is *such* a jerk to her, even last season when he was less of a jerk overall.

I feel like this will ultimately be explained as him trying to dissuade Mohan from emergency medicine because he thinks she's too sensitive (like him) and wants to spare her the grief and burnout. But it's impossible for it not to read as him taking out aggression on a female, not white, but incredible bly competent doctor with good bedside manner, while doting on Whitaker and talking him up all the time. And Langdon, another white guy, was his favorite before that.

Actually, I think there were genuine questions about her competence even last season. She might not be cut out for this.

It wasn't a question about her competence, it was Robby telling her she needed to spend less time talking to patients because they had a lot of pressure to treat patients more quickly and she needed to get her numbers up. That's not a competence issue, it's a speed and style issue.

Mohan might not be well suited for emergency medicine, sure. She's exploring other specialties for her fellowship and it's clear she's being thoughtful about what makes the most sense for her -- she might do better in a specialty where she can spend more time with patients and where there is lower stress overall. A good attending would be honest with her about her suitability for the specialty *without being an a**hole.* Mohan is not stubborn or arrogant, there's no indication that the only way to get through to her is to be blunt to the point of rudeness.

We've also seen her do her job very, very well on many occasions so I'm not convinced for certain that she isn't "cut out for it." The way Robby is behaving this season indicates HE might not be cut out for it, actually. Which is why it was especially rich when he was unloading on Mohan and telling her to "get it together" and learn to leave her life at the door. He is doing neither, it's BS. Mohan is more with it on this shift than Robby is, by a mile, and his behavior towards her is totally uncalled for. Her performance is actually extra impressive when you consider she's dealing with the added stress of being berated by her boss multiple times a day.

Anonymous wrote:Langdon didn’t get off with a pass. Santos is sanctimonious with the limited perspective of youth. Everyone makes mistakes. Everyone screws up. The majority of people deserve a second chance. He’s trying to make right, he’s not perfect.

Life is not black or white, it’s a lot of gray

Agree. I find Santos super annoying and sanctimonious. He's apologizing and taking ownership. Who is she to decide what he has to disclose about his addiction and actions? Maybe he SHOULD be in jail. But he's not. And is trying to take responsibility while building his career back.

I do not get the people who pile on others trying to do better or the right thing.

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Anonymous wrote:I can’t stand the way Robby treats Mohan, probably the best doctor there, with empathy to boot. So hard on her.

He is *such* a jerk to her, even last season when he was less of a jerk overall.

I feel like this will ultimately be explained as him trying to dissuade Mohan from emergency medicine because he thinks she's too sensitive (like him) and wants to spare her the grief and burnout. But it's impossible for it not to read as him taking out aggression on a female, not white, but incredible bly competent doctor with good bedside manner, while doting on Whitaker and talking him up all the time. And Langdon, another white guy, was his favorite before that.

Actually, I think there were genuine questions about her competence even last season. She might not be cut out for this.

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think the ice storyline is over. The missing patient Mohan was treating will likely be brought back in an ambulance dead or dying from a blood clot.

When was this episode filmed ? Filming wrapped this January so was the Jesse arrest inspired by Alex Pretti’s death at the hands of ice ? The similarities are hard to ignore: male nurses targeted by ice after stepping in to protect a woman.

I read that filming ended Jan 20 and Pretti was killed Jan 24. It was on some random Pitt fan page that came across my FB feed, so grain of salt and all.

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Anonymous wrote:I can’t stand the way Robby treats Mohan, probably the best doctor there, with empathy to boot. So hard on her.

He is *such* a jerk to her, even last season when he was less of a jerk overall.

I feel like this will ultimately be explained as him trying to dissuade Mohan from emergency medicine because he thinks she's too sensitive (like him) and wants to spare her the grief and burnout. But it's impossible for it not to read as him taking out aggression on a female, not white, but incredible bly competent doctor with good bedside manner, while doting on Whitaker and talking him up all the time. And Langdon, another white guy, was his favorite before that.

Please don’t make this a race thing.

It's not "a race thing." It's very common in workplaces for people to choose to mentor the subordinates who remind them most of themselves. Which leads to unconscious bias in terms of opportunity. It does seem like Robby tends to see himself more in doctors like Langdon and Whitaker, more so than Mohan or Mel. Likewise, Al-Hashimi may see herself more in Mohan or Javadi. It's a natural impulse. But that's also why it's worthwhile to point it out because for someone like an attending, it's important not to let those unconscious instincts get in the way of training and developing the doctors who work under you.

You can't just pretend like race and gender don't subtly impact the way people relate to each other. Of course they do.

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Anonymous wrote:I can’t stand the way Robby treats Mohan, probably the best doctor there, with empathy to boot. So hard on her.

He is *such* a jerk to her, even last season when he was less of a jerk overall.

I feel like this will ultimately be explained as him trying to dissuade Mohan from emergency medicine because he thinks she's too sensitive (like him) and wants to spare her the grief and burnout. But it's impossible for it not to read as him taking out aggression on a female, not white, but incredible bly competent doctor with good bedside manner, while doting on Whitaker and talking him up all the time. And Langdon, another white guy, was his favorite before that.

Please don’t make this a race thing.

Anonymous wrote:I can’t stand the way Robby treats Mohan, probably the best doctor there, with empathy to boot. So hard on her.

He is *such* a jerk to her, even last season when he was less of a jerk overall.

I feel like this will ultimately be explained as him trying to dissuade Mohan from emergency medicine because he thinks she's too sensitive (like him) and wants to spare her the grief and burnout. But it's impossible for it not to read as him taking out aggression on a female, not white, but incredible bly competent doctor with good bedside manner, while doting on Whitaker and talking him up all the time. And Langdon, another white guy, was his favorite before that.

Santos is one-note. Unconvincingly played. Would not believe she was an MD if she showed up in my ER cubicle.