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Anonymous wrote:Mamdani won because Americans are diving head first into populism. It’s the same reason Trump won.

I disagree.

I think it shows that his voters are diving head first into socialism. These people are primarily rich, or well-to-do white people - likely many of the same ones protesting day after day on collega campuses. While they are "educated" they are not intelligent enough to understand that he does not have the authority to enact most of his promises. But, these people have been taught socialism throughout their lives. You might say they have been indoctrinated and not taught to think critically. The majority of poor people in NYC and the working class did not vote for him. Seems they have more sense than those who are supposedly "educated."

I don't know how many times this has to be repeated. The working class is precisely who voted for Mamdani. He got "the middle," not rich people. He won the votes of exactly the people he was trying to reach. Stop trying to mischaracterize his win, or at the very least, get some accurate talking points.

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Anonymous wrote:Mamdani won because Americans are diving head first into populism. It’s the same reason Trump won.

I disagree.

I think it shows that his voters are diving head first into socialism. These people are primarily rich, or well-to-do white people - likely many of the same ones protesting day after day on collega campuses. While they are "educated" they are not intelligent enough to understand that he does not have the authority to enact most of his promises. But, these people have been taught socialism throughout their lives. You might say they have been indoctrinated and not taught to think critically. The majority of poor people in NYC and the working class did not vote for him. Seems they have more sense than those who are supposedly "educated."

None of that is true, but if you have some philosophy that dumber and less educated people are more qualified then the maga elections make perfect sense.

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Anonymous wrote:Just listened to some of Mamdani's campaign promises.
He reminds me of a 5th grader running for student council "better school lunches, more recess!!".
Just say what everyone would clearly want without any idea of how to make it happen: "free child care, rent control, cheaper groceries".
How could he possibly make any of these things happen?
Take the free child care...are there enough providers? Enough actually locations? Who pays for all this?
Rent control? There already is rent control.
State run grocery stores? What? How? Where? When? Who?
All the question words apply and he never seems to directly answer logistical questions other that to say "tax the wealthy".
This guy is a good talker, I'll give him that.

He actually explains how he will fund these things if you care to find out.

Cities run public water so is that any different than a grocery store in all honesty? A store per borough is not going to hurt anybody. Competition is the spirit of capitalism and government and politicians are already entangled in big business. Didn’t Hillary sit on the board for Walmart? Isn’t that kinda the same thing as a government run grocery store? If politicians are lobbying for Tyson food, Monsanto, Walmart, Amazon, then what difference does it make?

When I was a kid, and poor, we used to get food from the "government store." I remember big blocks of government cheese. Why not just return to those days? It's probably easier than securing a building, hiring staff to run the store, and managing logistics of food delivery, storage, and distribution.

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Anonymous wrote:Just listened to some of Mamdani's campaign promises.
He reminds me of a 5th grader running for student council "better school lunches, more recess!!".
Just say what everyone would clearly want without any idea of how to make it happen: "free child care, rent control, cheaper groceries".
How could he possibly make any of these things happen?
Take the free child care...are there enough providers? Enough actually locations? Who pays for all this?
Rent control? There already is rent control.
State run grocery stores? What? How? Where? When? Who?
All the question words apply and he never seems to directly answer logistical questions other that to say "tax the wealthy".
This guy is a good talker, I'll give him that.

He actually explains how he will fund these things if you care to find out.

Cities run public water so is that any different than a grocery store in all honesty? A store per borough is not going to hurt anybody. Competition is the spirit of capitalism and government and politicians are already entangled in big business. Didn’t Hillary sit on the board for Walmart? Isn’t that kinda the same thing as a government run grocery store? If politicians are lobbying for Tyson food, Monsanto, Walmart, Amazon, then what difference does it make?

Yes, he wants to tax “richer, whiter neighborhoods.” That’s not racist.

Mamdani won because Americans are diving head first into populism. It’s the same reason Trump won.

Bernie Sanders is 100% right and it it still criminal how the Democratic establishment undermined democracy by ignoring the people and rigging/stealing the nomination away from him.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/jun/25/democrats-learn-zohran-mamdani-victory

Mamdani has been criticized for his “radical” and “unrealistic” economic policies:

Demanding that, at a time of unprecedented income and wealth inequality, the rich and large corporations start paying their fair share of taxes.

Demanding that, when many New Yorkers are no longer able to find affordable housing, there should be a freeze on rent hikes.

Demanding that, when commuting to a job takes a big toll out of a worker’s paycheck, public transportation should be free.

Demanding that, when many low-income and working people are unable to access good-quality food for themselves and their kids, publicly owned neighborhood grocery stores should be created.

These ideas, and more, are not radical. They may not be what billionaires, wealthy campaign contributors and real estate speculators want, but they are what working people want. And maybe, just maybe, it’s time to listen to them.
Importantly, he did not run away from the moral issue that is troubling millions in New York and around the country: the need to end US military support for a rightwing extremist Benjamin Netanyahu government in Israel that is obliterating the people of Gaza and starving their children. Mamdani understands that antisemitism is a disgusting and dangerous ideology, but that it is not antisemitic to be critical of the inhumane policies of the Netanyahu government.

The lesson of Mamdani’s campaign is that it is not good enough just to be critical of Trump and his destructive policies. We have to bring forth a positive vision and an analysis of why things are the way they are. It is not good enough to maintain a status quo that is failing most Americans. At a time when hope is in increasingly short supply, people must have the sense that if we work together, if we have the courage to take on powerful special interests, we can create a better world – a world of economic, social, racial and environmental justice.

Will the current Democratic party leadership learn the lessons of the Mamdani campaign? Probably not. Too many of them would rather be the captains on a sinking Titanic, rather than change course.

Then again, it doesn’t matter what they think. The establishment threw everything they had against Mamdani – millions in Super Pac money, endorsements from “important people”, a hostile media – and they still lost.

Anonymous wrote:Just listened to some of Mamdani's campaign promises.
He reminds me of a 5th grader running for student council "better school lunches, more recess!!".
Just say what everyone would clearly want without any idea of how to make it happen: "free child care, rent control, cheaper groceries".
How could he possibly make any of these things happen?
Take the free child care...are there enough providers? Enough actually locations? Who pays for all this?
Rent control? There already is rent control.
State run grocery stores? What? How? Where? When? Who?
All the question words apply and he never seems to directly answer logistical questions other that to say "tax the wealthy".
This guy is a good talker, I'll give him that.

He actually explains how he will fund these things if you care to find out.

Cities run public water so is that any different than a grocery store in all honesty? A store per borough is not going to hurt anybody. Competition is the spirit of capitalism and government and politicians are already entangled in big business. Didn’t Hillary sit on the board for Walmart? Isn’t that kinda the same thing as a government run grocery store? If politicians are lobbying for Tyson food, Monsanto, Walmart, Amazon, then what difference does it make?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Zohran’s election is eliciting a type of anti-Islam bigotry that we have not seen before. Not even post 9/11.

Because his success as a pro-Palestinian, anti-Zionist, anti-apartheid candidate is a huge threat Israel supporters especially in a city with so many Jewish constituents. Had he been silent on those issues, you would be much less criticism and Islamophobic comments about him.

It's the language you're using that's telling - "pro-Palestinian, anti-Zionist, anti-apartheid" blah blah blah. People voting for mayors care about potholes, schools, public safety, snowplows. When people are voting for a mayor, they care about practical issues, not international conflicts 5000 miles away. No one wants the Gaza protesters running the biggest city in America. And this is why I think Eric Adams - a modestly corrupt old school politician who spends the majority of his time in nightclubs - may actually win reelection.

New Yorkers - overwhelmingly liberal - aren't scared of voting against the idiocy of the Democratic Party. Bloomberg and the old Giuliani are the most successful mayors of NYC in the past 50 years. New Yorkers have no problem voting against the ideologues that the Democratic Party keeps putting forth, even though by Party registration, Democrats have a 9 to 1 advantage in NYC. Candidates matter. And this time around, Democrats offered a disgraced sexual harasser and a far left wealthy Peter Pan dilettante who's never had a real job in his life.

Because of the absolute stupidity of the Democratic Party, I think there's a pretty good chance Eric Adams wins reelection, which is astonishing all things considered.

The language being used is the same language Mamdani has used in the past. And he has a very large target on his back because of it.

Democrats don’t focus on kitchen table issues and want to hyper focus instead on roe v wade, never Trump/no kings, visiting Tel Aviv, and the stock market then wonder why they lose. Yes, all of those things are important but they’re not what’s keeping Americans up at night. The working mom or dad doesn’t care about any of the things they talk about.

Anonymous wrote:Just listened to some of Mamdani's campaign promises.
He reminds me of a 5th grader running for student council "better school lunches, more recess!!".
Just say what everyone would clearly want without any idea of how to make it happen: "free child care, rent control, cheaper groceries".
How could he possibly make any of these things happen?
Take the free child care...are there enough providers? Enough actually locations? Who pays for all this?
Rent control? There already is rent control.
State run grocery stores? What? How? Where? When? Who?
All the question words apply and he never seems to directly answer logistical questions other that to say "tax the wealthy".
This guy is a good talker, I'll give him that.

De blasio enacted 15 dollar minimum wage and universal pre k and it is beloved in the city. I bet families remember that and that’s why Mamdani’s democratic socialist message resonated.

Telling people they can’t do anything is why older Democrats will continue to lose. Anything can be done if there’s political will for it

Just listened to some of Mamdani's campaign promises.
He reminds me of a 5th grader running for student council "better school lunches, more recess!!".
Just say what everyone would clearly want without any idea of how to make it happen: "free child care, rent control, cheaper groceries".
How could he possibly make any of these things happen?
Take the free child care...are there enough providers? Enough actually locations? Who pays for all this?
Rent control? There already is rent control.
State run grocery stores? What? How? Where? When? Who?
All the question words apply and he never seems to directly answer logistical questions other that to say "tax the wealthy".
This guy is a good talker, I'll give him that.

Cuomo only beat Mamdani by 9 points in Staten Island.

This is hilarious if anyone has ever been to MAGAland Staten Island.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Zohran’s election is eliciting a type of anti-Islam bigotry that we have not seen before. Not even post 9/11.

Because his success as a pro-Palestinian, anti-Zionist, anti-apartheid candidate is a huge threat Israel supporters especially in a city with so many Jewish constituents. Had he been silent on those issues, you would be much less criticism and Islamophobic comments about him.

It's the language you're using that's telling - "pro-Palestinian, anti-Zionist, anti-apartheid" blah blah blah. People voting for mayors care about potholes, schools, public safety, snowplows. When people are voting for a mayor, they care about practical issues, not international conflicts 5000 miles away. No one wants the Gaza protesters running the biggest city in America. And this is why I think Eric Adams - a modestly corrupt old school politician who spends the majority of his time in nightclubs - may actually win reelection.

New Yorkers - overwhelmingly liberal - aren't scared of voting against the idiocy of the Democratic Party. Bloomberg and the old Giuliani are the most successful mayors of NYC in the past 50 years. New Yorkers have no problem voting against the ideologues that the Democratic Party keeps putting forth, even though by Party registration, Democrats have a 9 to 1 advantage in NYC. Candidates matter. And this time around, Democrats offered a disgraced sexual harasser and a far left wealthy Peter Pan dilettante who's never had a real job in his life.

Because of the absolute stupidity of the Democratic Party, I think there's a pretty good chance Eric Adams wins reelection, which is astonishing all things considered.

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Anonymous wrote:All those running like headless chickens kindly calm down. Mamdani can’t run for president.

We know.
But he can destroy NYC.

How? It’s going to remain the most populated city in the country regardless of how bad it gets.

Like favelas and other slums. Artists on the dole.

Isn’t that how it already is? The truth is Wall Street already left for Silicon Valley years ago.

No they went to Miami. Silicon Valley emptied out too.

Cuomo’s heart wasn’t in it. Who wants to go from governor to mayor? Nobody.

His lack of passion showed