Anonymous
Post 04/03/2023 12:23     Subject: Re:Indictment Monday?
Anonymous wrote:Having sat on a grand jury, I know you can pretty much indict a ham sandwich. This latest is a true nothing burger.


Considering someone's already gone to jail for this, I doubt it's a nothing burger. Why should Michael Cohen go to jail, but Trump gets off scott free.
Anonymous
Post 04/03/2023 12:19     Subject: Indictment Monday?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OMG! Trump will be DNA tested tomorrow. He refused to give his DNA to E. Jean Carroll and that case is scheduled later in April. Will this mean that she can use his DNA swab in her case? Supposedly, she has a "blue dress" DNA sample.



This is a good question. DNA is available in criminal investigations. But I don’t *think* it’s available in civil trials. Could be wrong.

I wonder if they can given that the judge ordered he was required to submit it in that case.
Anonymous
Post 04/03/2023 12:17     Subject: Indictment Monday?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why are gag orders usually put in place? Is there a reason why they would do it in this case?


It’s not a default or even preferred. But Judges can and will do it to avoid poisoning the jury pool, threats against judges, prosecutors court staff, and juries and I ncitement to violence, etc.Trump has already done all three, so yes, I see a gag order in his future.

It would be narrowly tailored, in all likely hood— he could talk and campaign and continue as normal, except he could not discuss the case. And it would apply to everyone associated the the. Case— the DA, Court staff, Trump lawyers. Trump wants to screech about illegal aliens or his steak being too rare, he could continue to do so.

A high profile gag order recently was the Roger Stone case. Given 1/6, and that Trump has already attacked the Judge and Prosecutor by name, and posted a picture of himself with a bat ready to hit a judge, this may be the best case for a gag order I’ve ever seen.

I would say I’ve never seen someone do so much to earn a gag order before they are even arraigned.


Which allows the media to talk talk talk with no rebuttals
Anonymous
Post 04/03/2023 12:12     Subject: Indictment Monday?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why are gag orders usually put in place? Is there a reason why they would do it in this case?


It’s not a default or even preferred. But Judges can and will do it to avoid poisoning the jury pool, threats against judges, prosecutors court staff, and juries and I ncitement to violence, etc.Trump has already done all three, so yes, I see a gag order in his future.

It would be narrowly tailored, in all likely hood— he could talk and campaign and continue as normal, except he could not discuss the case. And it would apply to everyone associated the the. Case— the DA, Court staff, Trump lawyers. Trump wants to screech about illegal aliens or his steak being too rare, he could continue to do so.

A high profile gag order recently was the Roger Stone case. Given 1/6, and that Trump has already attacked the Judge and Prosecutor by name, and posted a picture of himself with a bat ready to hit a judge, this may be the best case for a gag order I’ve ever seen.

I would say I’ve never seen someone do so much to earn a gag order before they are even arraigned.


Thanks for explaining that.
Anonymous
Post 04/03/2023 12:05     Subject: Re:Indictment Monday?
Anonymous wrote:Having sat on a grand jury, I know you can pretty much indict a ham sandwich. This latest is a true nothing burger.


I've been to the doctor's office. That doesn't make me a doctor or even give me useful medical knowledge to apply to someone else's situation.
Anonymous
Post 04/03/2023 11:29     Subject: Re:Indictment Monday?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Having sat on a grand jury, I know you can pretty much indict a ham sandwich. This latest is a true nothing burger.

Oh do tell. I guess having sat on a grand jury makes you all knowing. I truly would like to hear how you know this is a “ nothing burger”. Spoken like a true MAGA idiot!


So typical of someone with no knowledge of grand jury proceedings has to resort to name calling. You kill your position when you do so.
Anonymous
Post 04/03/2023 11:13     Subject: Indictment Monday?
Anonymous wrote:OMG! Trump will be DNA tested tomorrow. He refused to give his DNA to E. Jean Carroll and that case is scheduled later in April. Will this mean that she can use his DNA swab in her case? Supposedly, she has a "blue dress" DNA sample.



This is a good question. DNA is available in criminal investigations. But I don’t *think* it’s available in civil trials. Could be wrong.
Anonymous
Post 04/03/2023 11:12     Subject: Indictment Monday?
Anonymous wrote:Why are gag orders usually put in place? Is there a reason why they would do it in this case?


It’s not a default or even preferred. But Judges can and will do it to avoid poisoning the jury pool, threats against judges, prosecutors court staff, and juries and I ncitement to violence, etc.Trump has already done all three, so yes, I see a gag order in his future.

It would be narrowly tailored, in all likely hood— he could talk and campaign and continue as normal, except he could not discuss the case. And it would apply to everyone associated the the. Case— the DA, Court staff, Trump lawyers. Trump wants to screech about illegal aliens or his steak being too rare, he could continue to do so.

A high profile gag order recently was the Roger Stone case. Given 1/6, and that Trump has already attacked the Judge and Prosecutor by name, and posted a picture of himself with a bat ready to hit a judge, this may be the best case for a gag order I’ve ever seen.

I would say I’ve never seen someone do so much to earn a gag order before they are even arraigned.
Anonymous
Post 04/03/2023 10:30     Subject: Indictment Monday?
Anonymous wrote:Why are gag orders usually put in place? Is there a reason why they would do it in this case?

Here’s one example https://www.npr.org/2019/07/16/742333663/roger-stone-barred-from-using-social-media-as-judge-tightens-gag-order
Anonymous
Post 04/03/2023 10:29     Subject: Re:Indictment Monday?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:


To my dying day, I will never understand why Republicans decided that this was their guy and they were going to follow him into whatever cesspool he wandered into.

“As a dog returns to his vomit, so a fool repeats his folly.”
- Proverbs 26:11
Anonymous
Post 04/03/2023 10:26     Subject: Indictment Monday?
Trump will stay in Florida and go on the run. Dog the Bounty Hunter will bring him in.
Anonymous
Post 04/03/2023 10:22     Subject: Indictment Monday?
Anonymous wrote:Why are gag orders usually put in place? Is there a reason why they would do it in this case?


Trump advocating violence is one reason.
Anonymous
Post 04/03/2023 10:08     Subject: Indictment Monday?
Why are gag orders usually put in place? Is there a reason why they would do it in this case?
Anonymous
Post 04/03/2023 10:01     Subject: Indictment Monday?
OMG! Trump will be DNA tested tomorrow. He refused to give his DNA to E. Jean Carroll and that case is scheduled later in April. Will this mean that she can use his DNA swab in her case? Supposedly, she has a "blue dress" DNA sample.

Anonymous
Post 04/03/2023 09:51     Subject: Indictment Monday?
Anonymous wrote:The first thing they will do is slap a gag order on him.


Oh, I hope so. He will defy and still have his presser at MAL. Then the judge can jail him for contempt. What a glorious day that will be tonsee Donald in an orange jumpsuit to match his orange skin.

How will SS choose who goes to jail with him and will they also have to wear orange jumpsuits to match?