What is this recent thing of cupping her hands to her mouth and then blowing everyone a kiss? First time I saw it, I did a double take and then kind of shook it off. Now it’s all the time.

Wonder if she’s trying to come up with some kind of signature gesture.

I cannot watch the entire "Advent Church" video this week, as her fake sweetness is beyond my understanding. I tried. The hollowness makes me feel crazy. She's like a totally different person in it, attempting humility. It's impossible for me to not feel manipulated by her smile, because I know that 2 seconds later there will be another video trying to sell me something to improve my life.

Aside from a couple strays, almost everything here is legitimate criticism of public figures who thrives on scamming people - all they know are lies, lies and more lies.

Anonymous wrote:It’s the grift for me. The Hollis’s and Jen’s are making money off of vulnerable people when they have no skills or education to “teach” them anything. Former followers are waking up to the grift.

1000% this.

They exploit vulnerable people for profit.

It’s the grift for me. The Hollis’s and Jen’s are making money off of vulnerable people when they have no skills or education to “teach” them anything. Former followers are waking up to the grift.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow, the Dave article. If Jen died tomorrow, would you all be proud of what you’ve written here?

Words matter. Even from anonymous nobodies.

If THAT was your takeaway from the wsj article…. I don’t think you read it right.

Dave Hollis’ sad demise is entirely on Dave. He’s not a victim. He was a highly privileged wealthy man who was given every advantage in life. No one but Dave I was responsible for him becoming an addict and a fraud.

Same with Jen.

Anonymous wrote:Wow, the Dave article. If Jen died tomorrow, would you all be proud of what you’ve written here?

Words matter. Even from anonymous nobodies.

If THAT was your takeaway from the wsj article…. I don’t think you read it right.

Wow, the Dave article. If Jen died tomorrow, would you all be proud of what you’ve written here?

Words matter. Even from anonymous nobodies.

Jen, like all these influencers, is very good at flapping their gums a lot but saying precious little. Any woman looking at Jen for any sort of spiritual guidance at all is a complete idiot. But as we all know, there's a sucker born every minute. At this stage of her life and career Jen Hatmaker is 70% PLEASE BUY THIS CRAP AND FUND MY NEXT MECRUISE, 20% OH HOW I LOVE MY DISINTERESTED PASSIVE AGGRESSIVE MAYBE GAY BOYFRIEND, and 10% I HATE MY ""ROOMMATE".

Her wordy post on advent just seems like a lot of fluffy nothingness and has that “everyone-please-look-at-me-having-good-hair-day👩‍🦳” vibe

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Anonymous wrote:The fact he refers to his company as The tmp is so obnoxious. Who would walk around w his branding other than Jen’s corneaters?

Tyler strikes me as another chronically insecure man desperate for the approval and affirmation of others.

Ding, ding, ding! Chronically insecure is a great description of both of them.

Anonymous wrote:The fact he refers to his company as The tmp is so obnoxious. Who would walk around w his branding other than Jen’s corneaters?

Tyler strikes me as another chronically insecure man desperate for the approval and affirmation of others.

The fact he refers to his company as The tmp is so obnoxious. Who would walk around w his branding other than Jen’s corneaters?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s not misogyny or racist to notice Tyler is not into Jen. Where did you get that?

Misogyny is more than beating women and racism is more than the KKK. Such disbelief that Jen and Tyler could be together. It’s not Mississippi Burning anymore. Relationships are allowed to be different. I also see homophobia with comments that Tyler must be gay.

I hear a lot of reading into other people's words mixed with self-righteousness in your comments.

Into her, not here.