Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I saw this article on The Hill and immediately thought about the boundary review. The Democratic Party has hemorrhaged voters lately, in part for being out of touch on its policies. Exhibit 1 is the boundary review.
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5395563-democrats-losing-support-white-voters/
Ignore the URL mention of white voters, because the article is not really about that.
Here’s a quote from the article - “We do better when we first meet voters where they are and then bring them along on other issues. … And nine times out of 10, what they really care about is whether or not they’re going to be able to afford health care, whether or not their kids are going to be able to go to a good school … housing, living paycheck to paycheck.”
Since all politics are local, the school board is doing immense damage to the Democratic brand with the unnecessary comprehensive boundary review.
I wonder how the election of Sandy Anderson, who was already trying to undermine the Thru Consulting recommendations, as the new School Board chair, will affect the boundary review. At some point will there be a confrontation between the School Board and Reid where they throw Reid under a bus?
Sandy Anderson has been one of the worst, if not the worst school board rep on boundaries.
She has actively worked against her Springfield District families on this issue, and has been miserable with communication, alternating between completely ignoring or dismissing constituents from multiple neighborhoods, to promoting neighborhoods from outside her schools over the schools she represents (pushing to displace and rezone Hunt Valley/Irving/WSHS families and replacing them with Lewis/Key neighborhoods)
It is unbelievable that anyone would think that Sandy Anderson is the face of resistance against rezoning. This rezoning is Sandy Anderson's pet project.
It’s her pet project for sure. Interesting that her neighborhood isn’t touched, but a neighborhood right behind hers is slotted to move without much reason.
It is CRAZY to mive those few streets from Silverbrook/South County to Sangster/Lake Braddock.
It easily triples their commute, and forces them on some very busy main roads, one of which has recent teen driving deaths.
Then, they are basically flipping that neighborhood with a similar sized Sangster/Lake Braddock neighborhood that is very happy with their current school, which is about the same distance or closer, who also do not want to change schools.
Why would they even do something like this, flipping two clusters of streets, neither of which want to get rezoned, even though all the new schools are great options.
That Sangster/Silverbrook/Soco/LB rezoning is simply rezoning just to say you rezoned something, particularly for the Silverbrook streets.
I can't help but think that one is a revenge rezoning against someone who ticked off the school board member. It is just such a weird chouce for rezoning to LB
Absolutely. The road safety alone should be enough. It’s an odd choice & Sangster already has portables and large class sizes. Moving another neighborhood in, without any logical reason is odd. Sandy has not been very helpful with listening to her constituents’ worries and concerns. I understand that some changes may make more sense than others, but she comes in on the defense and is very argumentative and protective of that RVES/Key/Lewis pocket.
Anonymous wrote:Middle school is only two years. Really, it should be less of a priority than getting ES and HS boundaries that make sense. You are never going to get logical MS boundaries.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Trying to align all the middle schools with the high schools is a fool's errand. It can't be done.
They need to draw the KAA boundaries in a way that makes sense and doesn't disrupt the boundaries for all the other schools in the area, and call it a day.
You can get a lot closer and diminish the number of splits coming out of the MS, which would benefit the students at those MS. It so happens that the kids who are attending Carson would be a quick drive over to the new HS. The biggest issue would be the number of students pulled from Westfield.
I think it's clear they should redo the MS boundaries to align with the new HS boundaries. It would be really simple if they stopped the AAP transfers.
Once they are done with that, it should look something like:
Carson- KAA and either SL or Oakton
Franklin- Westfield and Oakton
Hughes- SL
Rocky Run- Chantilly
Stone- Westfield
Liberty- Centreville
Oakton also gets kids from Thoreau. Not "really simple" to have a HS that pulls from three middle schools.
If Crossfield doesn’t move to KAA, it should be moved to Franklin. What this poster isn’t accounting for is Navy splitting between Chantilly and Oakton, which complicates getting Chantilly out of Franklin. (PP is clearly sacrificing Lees Corner to Westfield.)
I am PP. I'm not necessarily sacrificing Lees Corner; maybe they would get moved to Rocky Run. Or Navy that currently goes to Franklin is moved to Rocky Run. Really, it should more have read they should figure out who is going to each middle school first and then based on that, they assign high schools.
PP must not be aware that Lee's Corner has walkers to Franklin.
Nothing on the north side of 50 should go to Westfield. Franklin should be Chantilly/Oakton.
I'm well aware. I live near there. The implication would be one side of the boundary is Lee's corner/franklin/westfield and the other is lee's corner/rocky run/chantilly. But there's a million different scenarios, it’s just one example scenario. Maybe starting with the MS would means more ES split feeders but I'd rather personally keep kids together MS and HS as best as possible and have fewer MS split feeders. The boundaries are a mess because they just try to cram people where there's space at each level.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I saw this article on The Hill and immediately thought about the boundary review. The Democratic Party has hemorrhaged voters lately, in part for being out of touch on its policies. Exhibit 1 is the boundary review.
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5395563-democrats-losing-support-white-voters/
Ignore the URL mention of white voters, because the article is not really about that.
Here’s a quote from the article - “We do better when we first meet voters where they are and then bring them along on other issues. … And nine times out of 10, what they really care about is whether or not they’re going to be able to afford health care, whether or not their kids are going to be able to go to a good school … housing, living paycheck to paycheck.”
Since all politics are local, the school board is doing immense damage to the Democratic brand with the unnecessary comprehensive boundary review.
I wonder how the election of Sandy Anderson, who was already trying to undermine the Thru Consulting recommendations, as the new School Board chair, will affect the boundary review. At some point will there be a confrontation between the School Board and Reid where they throw Reid under a bus?
Sandy Anderson has been one of the worst, if not the worst school board rep on boundaries.
She has actively worked against her Springfield District families on this issue, and has been miserable with communication, alternating between completely ignoring or dismissing constituents from multiple neighborhoods, to promoting neighborhoods from outside her schools over the schools she represents (pushing to displace and rezone Hunt Valley/Irving/WSHS families and replacing them with Lewis/Key neighborhoods)
It is unbelievable that anyone would think that Sandy Anderson is the face of resistance against rezoning. This rezoning is Sandy Anderson's pet project.
It’s her pet project for sure. Interesting that her neighborhood isn’t touched, but a neighborhood right behind hers is slotted to move without much reason.
It is CRAZY to mive those few streets from Silverbrook/South County to Sangster/Lake Braddock.
It easily triples their commute, and forces them on some very busy main roads, one of which has recent teen driving deaths.
Then, they are basically flipping that neighborhood with a similar sized Sangster/Lake Braddock neighborhood that is very happy with their current school, which is about the same distance or closer, who also do not want to change schools.
Why would they even do something like this, flipping two clusters of streets, neither of which want to get rezoned, even though all the new schools are great options.
That Sangster/Silverbrook/Soco/LB rezoning is simply rezoning just to say you rezoned something, particularly for the Silverbrook streets.
I can't help but think that one is a revenge rezoning against someone who ticked off the school board member. It is just such a weird chouce for rezoning to LB
Absolutely. The road safety alone should be enough. It’s an odd choice & Sangster already has portables and large class sizes. Moving another neighborhood in, without any logical reason is odd. Sandy has not been very helpful with listening to her constituents’ worries and concerns. I understand that some changes may make more sense than others, but she comes in on the defense and is very argumentative and protective of that RVES/Key/Lewis pocket.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Trying to align all the middle schools with the high schools is a fool's errand. It can't be done.
They need to draw the KAA boundaries in a way that makes sense and doesn't disrupt the boundaries for all the other schools in the area, and call it a day.
You can get a lot closer and diminish the number of splits coming out of the MS, which would benefit the students at those MS. It so happens that the kids who are attending Carson would be a quick drive over to the new HS. The biggest issue would be the number of students pulled from Westfield.
I think it's clear they should redo the MS boundaries to align with the new HS boundaries. It would be really simple if they stopped the AAP transfers.
Once they are done with that, it should look something like:
Carson- KAA and either SL or Oakton
Franklin- Westfield and Oakton
Hughes- SL
Rocky Run- Chantilly
Stone- Westfield
Liberty- Centreville
Oakton also gets kids from Thoreau. Not "really simple" to have a HS that pulls from three middle schools.
If Crossfield doesn’t move to KAA, it should be moved to Franklin. What this poster isn’t accounting for is Navy splitting between Chantilly and Oakton, which complicates getting Chantilly out of Franklin. (PP is clearly sacrificing Lees Corner to Westfield.)
I am PP. I'm not necessarily sacrificing Lees Corner; maybe they would get moved to Rocky Run. Or Navy that currently goes to Franklin is moved to Rocky Run. Really, it should more have read they should figure out who is going to each middle school first and then based on that, they assign high schools.
PP must not be aware that Lee's Corner has walkers to Franklin.
Nothing on the north side of 50 should go to Westfield. F(Branklin should be Chantilly/Oakton.
I'm well aware. I live near there. The implication would be one side of the boundary is Lee's corner/franklin/westfield and the other is lee's corner/rocky run/chantilly. But there's a million different scenarios, its just one example scenario. Maybe starting with the MS would means more ES split feeders but I'd rather personally keep kids together MS and HS as best as possible and have fewer MS split feeders. The boundaries are a mess because they just try to cram people where there's space at each level.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Trying to align all the middle schools with the high schools is a fool's errand. It can't be done.
They need to draw the KAA boundaries in a way that makes sense and doesn't disrupt the boundaries for all the other schools in the area, and call it a day.
You can get a lot closer and diminish the number of splits coming out of the MS, which would benefit the students at those MS. It so happens that the kids who are attending Carson would be a quick drive over to the new HS. The biggest issue would be the number of students pulled from Westfield.
I think it's clear they should redo the MS boundaries to align with the new HS boundaries. It would be really simple if they stopped the AAP transfers.
Once they are done with that, it should look something like:
Carson- KAA and either SL or Oakton
Franklin- Westfield and Oakton
Hughes- SL
Rocky Run- Chantilly
Stone- Westfield
Liberty- Centreville
Oakton also gets kids from Thoreau. Not "really simple" to have a HS that pulls from three middle schools.
If Crossfield doesn’t move to KAA, it should be moved to Franklin. What this poster isn’t accounting for is Navy splitting between Chantilly and Oakton, which complicates getting Chantilly out of Franklin. (PP is clearly sacrificing Lees Corner to Westfield.)
I am PP. I'm not necessarily sacrificing Lees Corner; maybe they would get moved to Rocky Run. Or Navy that currently goes to Franklin is moved to Rocky Run. Really, it should more have read they should figure out who is going to each middle school first and then based on that, they assign high schools.
PP must not be aware that Lee's Corner has walkers to Franklin.
Nothing on the north side of 50 should go to Westfield. Franklin should be Chantilly/Oakton.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Trying to align all the middle schools with the high schools is a fool's errand. It can't be done.
They need to draw the KAA boundaries in a way that makes sense and doesn't disrupt the boundaries for all the other schools in the area, and call it a day.
You can get a lot closer and diminish the number of splits coming out of the MS, which would benefit the students at those MS. It so happens that the kids who are attending Carson would be a quick drive over to the new HS. The biggest issue would be the number of students pulled from Westfield.
I think it's clear they should redo the MS boundaries to align with the new HS boundaries. It would be really simple if they stopped the AAP transfers.
Once they are done with that, it should look something like:
Carson- KAA and either SL or Oakton
Franklin- Westfield and Oakton
Hughes- SL
Rocky Run- Chantilly
Stone- Westfield
Liberty- Centreville
Oakton also gets kids from Thoreau. Not "really simple" to have a HS that pulls from three middle schools.
If Crossfield doesn’t move to KAA, it should be moved to Franklin. What this poster isn’t accounting for is Navy splitting between Chantilly and Oakton, which complicates getting Chantilly out of Franklin. (PP is clearly sacrificing Lees Corner to Westfield.)
I am PP. I'm not necessarily sacrificing Lees Corner; maybe they would get moved to Rocky Run. Or Navy that currently goes to Franklin is moved to Rocky Run. Really, it should more have read they should figure out who is going to each middle school first and then based on that, they assign high schools.
I think they need to approach it the other way around. The middle school boundaries are a mess because Oakton doesn’t have a nearby middle school. They should look at the high school boundaries and how the elementary schools fit into them like a puzzle. Then they should reshape middle school boundaries to reduce split feeders to no more than two schools.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Trying to align all the middle schools with the high schools is a fool's errand. It can't be done.
They need to draw the KAA boundaries in a way that makes sense and doesn't disrupt the boundaries for all the other schools in the area, and call it a day.
You can get a lot closer and diminish the number of splits coming out of the MS, which would benefit the students at those MS. It so happens that the kids who are attending Carson would be a quick drive over to the new HS. The biggest issue would be the number of students pulled from Westfield.
I think it's clear they should redo the MS boundaries to align with the new HS boundaries. It would be really simple if they stopped the AAP transfers.
Once they are done with that, it should look something like:
Carson- KAA and either SL or Oakton
Franklin- Westfield and Oakton
Hughes- SL
Rocky Run- Chantilly
Stone- Westfield
Liberty- Centreville
Oakton also gets kids from Thoreau. Not "really simple" to have a HS that pulls from three middle schools.
If Crossfield doesn’t move to KAA, it should be moved to Franklin. What this poster isn’t accounting for is Navy splitting between Chantilly and Oakton, which complicates getting Chantilly out of Franklin. (PP is clearly sacrificing Lees Corner to Westfield.)
I am PP. I'm not necessarily sacrificing Lees Corner; maybe they would get moved to Rocky Run. Or Navy that currently goes to Franklin is moved to Rocky Run. Really, it should more have read they should figure out who is going to each middle school first and then based on that, they assign high schools.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Trying to align all the middle schools with the high schools is a fool's errand. It can't be done.
They need to draw the KAA boundaries in a way that makes sense and doesn't disrupt the boundaries for all the other schools in the area, and call it a day.
You can get a lot closer and diminish the number of splits coming out of the MS, which would benefit the students at those MS. It so happens that the kids who are attending Carson would be a quick drive over to the new HS. The biggest issue would be the number of students pulled from Westfield.
I think it's clear they should redo the MS boundaries to align with the new HS boundaries. It would be really simple if they stopped the AAP transfers.
Once they are done with that, it should look something like:
Carson- KAA and either SL or Oakton
Franklin- Westfield and Oakton
Hughes- SL
Rocky Run- Chantilly
Stone- Westfield
Liberty- Centreville
Oakton also gets kids from Thoreau. Not "really simple" to have a HS that pulls from three middle schools.
If Crossfield doesn’t move to KAA, it should be moved to Franklin. What this poster isn’t accounting for is Navy splitting between Chantilly and Oakton, which complicates getting Chantilly out of Franklin. (PP is clearly sacrificing Lees Corner to Westfield.)
I am PP. I'm not necessarily sacrificing Lees Corner; maybe they would get moved to Rocky Run. Or Navy that currently goes to Franklin is moved to Rocky Run. Really, it should more have read they should figure out who is going to each middle school first and then based on that, they assign high schools.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I saw this article on The Hill and immediately thought about the boundary review. The Democratic Party has hemorrhaged voters lately, in part for being out of touch on its policies. Exhibit 1 is the boundary review.
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5395563-democrats-losing-support-white-voters/
Ignore the URL mention of white voters, because the article is not really about that.
Here’s a quote from the article - “We do better when we first meet voters where they are and then bring them along on other issues. … And nine times out of 10, what they really care about is whether or not they’re going to be able to afford health care, whether or not their kids are going to be able to go to a good school … housing, living paycheck to paycheck.”
Since all politics are local, the school board is doing immense damage to the Democratic brand with the unnecessary comprehensive boundary review.
I wonder how the election of Sandy Anderson, who was already trying to undermine the Thru Consulting recommendations, as the new School Board chair, will affect the boundary review. At some point will there be a confrontation between the School Board and Reid where they throw Reid under a bus?
Sandy Anderson has been one of the worst, if not the worst school board rep on boundaries.
She has actively worked against her Springfield District families on this issue, and has been miserable with communication, alternating between completely ignoring or dismissing constituents from multiple neighborhoods, to promoting neighborhoods from outside her schools over the schools she represents (pushing to displace and rezone Hunt Valley/Irving/WSHS families and replacing them with Lewis/Key neighborhoods)
It is unbelievable that anyone would think that Sandy Anderson is the face of resistance against rezoning. This rezoning is Sandy Anderson's pet project.
It’s her pet project for sure. Interesting that her neighborhood isn’t touched, but a neighborhood right behind hers is slotted to move without much reason.
It is CRAZY to mive those few streets from Silverbrook/South County to Sangster/Lake Braddock.
It easily triples their commute, and forces them on some very busy main roads, one of which has recent teen driving deaths.
Then, they are basically flipping that neighborhood with a similar sized Sangster/Lake Braddock neighborhood that is very happy with their current school, which is about the same distance or closer, who also do not want to change schools.
Why would they even do something like this, flipping two clusters of streets, neither of which want to get rezoned, even though all the new schools are great options.
That Sangster/Silverbrook/Soco/LB rezoning is simply rezoning just to say you rezoned something, particularly for the Silverbrook streets.
I can't help but think that one is a revenge rezoning against someone who ticked off the school board member. It is just such a weird chouce for rezoning to LB
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Trying to align all the middle schools with the high schools is a fool's errand. It can't be done.
They need to draw the KAA boundaries in a way that makes sense and doesn't disrupt the boundaries for all the other schools in the area, and call it a day.
You can get a lot closer and diminish the number of splits coming out of the MS, which would benefit the students at those MS. It so happens that the kids who are attending Carson would be a quick drive over to the new HS. The biggest issue would be the number of students pulled from Westfield.
I think it's clear they should redo the MS boundaries to align with the new HS boundaries. It would be really simple if they stopped the AAP transfers.
Once they are done with that, it should look something like:
Carson- KAA and either SL or Oakton
Franklin- Westfield and Oakton
Hughes- SL
Rocky Run- Chantilly
Stone- Westfield
Liberty- Centreville
Oakton also gets kids from Thoreau. Not "really simple" to have a HS that pulls from three middle schools.
If Crossfield doesn’t move to KAA, it should be moved to Franklin. What this poster isn’t accounting for is Navy splitting between Chantilly and Oakton, which complicates getting Chantilly out of Franklin. (PP is clearly sacrificing Lees Corner to Westfield.)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Trying to align all the middle schools with the high schools is a fool's errand. It can't be done.
They need to draw the KAA boundaries in a way that makes sense and doesn't disrupt the boundaries for all the other schools in the area, and call it a day.
You can get a lot closer and diminish the number of splits coming out of the MS, which would benefit the students at those MS. It so happens that the kids who are attending Carson would be a quick drive over to the new HS. The biggest issue would be the number of students pulled from Westfield.
I think it's clear they should redo the MS boundaries to align with the new HS boundaries. It would be really simple if they stopped the AAP transfers.
Once they are done with that, it should look something like:
Carson- KAA and either SL or Oakton
Franklin- Westfield and Oakton
Hughes- SL
Rocky Run- Chantilly
Stone- Westfield
Liberty- Centreville
Oakton also gets kids from Thoreau. Not "really simple" to have a HS that pulls from three middle schools.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Trying to align all the middle schools with the high schools is a fool's errand. It can't be done.
They need to draw the KAA boundaries in a way that makes sense and doesn't disrupt the boundaries for all the other schools in the area, and call it a day.
You can get a lot closer and diminish the number of splits coming out of the MS, which would benefit the students at those MS. It so happens that the kids who are attending Carson would be a quick drive over to the new HS. The biggest issue would be the number of students pulled from Westfield.
I think it's clear they should redo the MS boundaries to align with the new HS boundaries. It would be really simple if they stopped the AAP transfers.
Once they are done with that, it should look something like:
Carson- KAA and either SL or Oakton
Franklin- Westfield and Oakton
Hughes- SL
Rocky Run- Chantilly
Stone- Westfield
Liberty- Centreville