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Anonymous wrote:Will there ever be an easier year to get into AAP than this past year? No CoGAT, majority of GBRS done remotely...etc. Several acquaintances kids got in, and they all said how they applied because they figured it would never be easier. Seems unfair to other grades. Honestly, I was shocked to see at least one of them got in. Very destructive kid with no critical thinking skills.

Teachers went into the school to meet with AART/committee. What do you mean GBRS done remotely? How are they done each year by the teachers that it was so different that it changed the outcome for your kid?

Everyone was encouraged to apply JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER YEAR. In a non-COVID year, if your child is not in-pool for based on COGAT score - you can still parent refer! Come here on DCUM each year and you will see so many stories of kids that should have been in but weren't and vice versa.

I don't think CogAT being absent made it easier at all to get into AAP. It probably screwed over some truly smart kids and allowed some dumb ones in (but does that mean it's easier or harder?? - if you are the target demographic for AAP then I would argue harder). My older kid had two data points to prove he is gifted, >145 on both NNAT and CogAT. My younger kid last year had only a >145 NNAT and he is shy so barely talks on remote learning. The teacher didn't know what to write in the GBRS! Tell me that's EASY. I was sitting back biting my nails for months. Luckily he got in

Anonymous wrote:Will there ever be an easier year to get into AAP than this past year? No CoGAT, majority of GBRS done remotely...etc. Several acquaintances kids got in, and they all said how they applied because they figured it would never be easier. Seems unfair to other grades. Honestly, I was shocked to see at least one of them got in. Very destructive kid with no critical thinking skills.

Teachers went into the school to meet with AART/committee. What do you mean GBRS done remotely? How are they done each year by the teachers that it was so different that it changed the outcome for your kid?

Everyone was encouraged to apply JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER YEAR. In a non-COVID year, if your child is not in-pool for based on COGAT score - you can still parent refer! Come here on DCUM each year and you will see so many stories of kids that should have been in but weren't and vice versa.

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Anonymous wrote:Will there ever be an easier year to get into AAP than this past year? No CoGAT, majority of GBRS done remotely...etc. Several acquaintances kids got in, and they all said how they applied because they figured it would never be easier. Seems unfair to other grades. Honestly, I was shocked to see at least one of them got in. Very destructive kid with no critical thinking skills.

What would have been your recommendation to make it better? Genuinely curious.

Administer the freaking CogAT! Why couldn’t they get it together to do this basic step?

So all the parents whose kids scored low could whine that they shouldn't have administered the COGAT since everyone was virtual? Or so parents could have taken the COGAT for their kids? (Believe me, parents have been taking 3rd grade math tests in my kid's class all year.) Great idea. There were no good solutions here. Going with the NNAT and GBRS made the most sense to me.

No, it’s a standardized test - kids should have been brought in to school in the fall to take it. Just like high school kids were brought in to take the SAT.

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Anonymous wrote:Will there ever be an easier year to get into AAP than this past year? No CoGAT, majority of GBRS done remotely...etc. Several acquaintances kids got in, and they all said how they applied because they figured it would never be easier. Seems unfair to other grades. Honestly, I was shocked to see at least one of them got in. Very destructive kid with no critical thinking skills.

What would have been your recommendation to make it better? Genuinely curious.

Administer the freaking CogAT! Why couldn’t they get it together to do this basic step?

So all the parents whose kids scored low could whine that they shouldn't have administered the COGAT since everyone was virtual? Or so parents could have taken the COGAT for their kids? (Believe me, parents have been taking 3rd grade math tests in my kid's class all year.) Great idea. There were no good solutions here. Going with the NNAT and GBRS made the most sense to me.

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Anonymous wrote:Has anyone’s child gotten in with a nnat score of 106?

That’s literally the definition of average. It would be a travesty if someone got in with that and basically proof that admissions is a total sham

If the Cogat and/or WISC were 106, then it would be very hard to believe that the child should be in AAP. But the NNAT is such a strange test, it has very little value at all. It certainly wouldn't be a travesty for a child with a 106 NNAT and other higher scores to be admitted.

I probably shouldn’t admit this, but my child got in with a 108 nnat. DC was principal placed. I would never disclose that to parents at the school.

"Principal placed" is not "getting in"

Well, he's in level IV. I don't know what to tell you, it's on his report card. Also, he is eligible to attend the AAP center school.

Principal placed means that they are in the Local Level IV program because the Principal placed them there. Level IV will be checked on the report card. Only kids selected by the Committee can attend Centers, not Principal Paced kids.

It also means no AAP during middle school but by then kids can pick honors classes.

So Holmes MS is removing general Ed and moving everyone to honors. Yep, they will redefine honors, sounds like VMPI already in action in some places. Read the info here. Don’t be so sure honors will be around in a few years or even AAP. We are moving to equity Ed instead of merit Ed. This is what we voted for people. Time to stop the stupidity and none sense in FCPS. https://msg.schoolmessenger.com/m/getdocument.php?s=MnuwQN1yLr0&mal=0bc4574062b0e966ac1ce8e6f14f3d7a1a1cf979d3a17c1335fd76a0fba8006f&p=

This seems like a way to sell more people on the IB program. I may be wrong but it also seems to be suggesting that certain “honors” classes will be team taught and remedial. I bet they’re still going to track, unless they’re hiring a lot of additional staff to ensure they can team teach every single class. Someone on here probably teaches at this school and could spill the beans.

I guess the goal is heterogeneous classrooms, that’s what many school districts and states have been pushing to make it equitable.

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Anonymous wrote:Has anyone’s child gotten in with a nnat score of 106?

That’s literally the definition of average. It would be a travesty if someone got in with that and basically proof that admissions is a total sham

If the Cogat and/or WISC were 106, then it would be very hard to believe that the child should be in AAP. But the NNAT is such a strange test, it has very little value at all. It certainly wouldn't be a travesty for a child with a 106 NNAT and other higher scores to be admitted.

I probably shouldn’t admit this, but my child got in with a 108 nnat. DC was principal placed. I would never disclose that to parents at the school.

"Principal placed" is not "getting in"

Well, he's in level IV. I don't know what to tell you, it's on his report card. Also, he is eligible to attend the AAP center school.

Principal placed means that they are in the Local Level IV program because the Principal placed them there. Level IV will be checked on the report card. Only kids selected by the Committee can attend Centers, not Principal Paced kids.

It also means no AAP during middle school but by then kids can pick honors classes.

So Holmes MS is removing general Ed and moving everyone to honors. Yep, they will redefine honors, sounds like VMPI already in action in some places. Read the info here. Don’t be so sure honors will be around in a few years or even AAP. We are moving to equity Ed instead of merit Ed. This is what we voted for people. Time to stop the stupidity and none sense in FCPS. https://msg.schoolmessenger.com/m/getdocument.php?s=MnuwQN1yLr0&mal=0bc4574062b0e966ac1ce8e6f14f3d7a1a1cf979d3a17c1335fd76a0fba8006f&p=

This seems like a way to sell more people on the IB program. I may be wrong but it also seems to be suggesting that certain “honors” classes will be team taught and remedial. I bet they’re still going to track, unless they’re hiring a lot of additional staff to ensure they can team teach every single class. Someone on here probably teaches at this school and could spill the beans.

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Anonymous wrote:Has anyone’s child gotten in with a nnat score of 106?

That’s literally the definition of average. It would be a travesty if someone got in with that and basically proof that admissions is a total sham

If the Cogat and/or WISC were 106, then it would be very hard to believe that the child should be in AAP. But the NNAT is such a strange test, it has very little value at all. It certainly wouldn't be a travesty for a child with a 106 NNAT and other higher scores to be admitted.

I probably shouldn’t admit this, but my child got in with a 108 nnat. DC was principal placed. I would never disclose that to parents at the school.

"Principal placed" is not "getting in"

Well, he's in level IV. I don't know what to tell you, it's on his report card. Also, he is eligible to attend the AAP center school.

Principal placed means that they are in the Local Level IV program because the Principal placed them there. Level IV will be checked on the report card. Only kids selected by the Committee can attend Centers, not Principal Paced kids.

It also means no AAP during middle school but by then kids can pick honors classes.

So Holmes MS is removing general Ed and moving everyone to honors. Yep, they will redefine honors, sounds like VMPI already in action in some places. Read the info here. Don’t be so sure honors will be around in a few years or even AAP. We are moving to equity Ed instead of merit Ed. This is what we voted for people. Time to stop the stupidity and none sense in FCPS. https://msg.schoolmessenger.com/m/getdocument.php?s=MnuwQN1yLr0&mal=0bc4574062b0e966ac1ce8e6f14f3d7a1a1cf979d3a17c1335fd76a0fba8006f&p=