Anonymous
09/17/2013 12:07
Subject: ludlow-taylor
10:15, are you always such a bitch or is it just reserved for an anonymous message board? Do toddlers too young to attend Brent frequent the park? Certainly. Do OOB parents bring their children to the park? Yup. Are there discussions amongst parents about schools/issues other than Brent? Indeed. Does this make PP's opinion invalid? No. Personally I would opt for staying in the bubble if I get to avoid interacting with the likes of you.
Anonymous
09/17/2013 12:05
Subject: Re:ludlow-taylor
My biggest problem with address cheaters isn't ghat they are at the school but that they aren't paying to be there. If the spots are not wanted by dc kids, fine. But shouldn't the school or dc (not sure who gets the tuition) benefit from it?
Anonymous
09/17/2013 10:28
Subject: Re:ludlow-taylor
Anonymous wrote:just wanted to post this NYT article by a ludlow-taylor mom:
http://parenting.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/09/16/in-d-c-where-universal-free-preschool-is-becoming-the-norm/
Anonymous
09/17/2013 10:17
Subject: ludlow-taylor
Anonymous wrote:It harms LT by keeping IB parents from enrolling. If I wanted my DC to go to school in a lower SES neighborhood in MD, I'd move there and pocket the difference.
a) Technically, it works the other way around -- IB kids can fill up spaces and keep other kids from enrolling.
b) You know, if the kids from Maryland deter parents who don't want their kids to attend school alongside low SES kids ... I'm OK with people with that attitude being deterred.
Anonymous
09/17/2013 10:15
Subject: Re:ludlow-taylor
Anonymous wrote:
Your comment isn't rooted in reality. Many families enroll in schools without respect to geography. Just look at the Hill students attending private schools across town (not as uncommon as you think). Same deal with charters. People will send their kids to the school they think is best suited to their educational philosophy and the needs of their children. That may be a neighborhood school, but it could just as easiliy be located somewhere else. You are likely to find that your kid's "neighborhood pals" attend school all over the map whether you think that's best or not .
In the LT District, yes, neighborhood pals all over the map. In the Brent District, hardly the case. I'd wager that 3/4 of the K-2nd grade kids there now attend Brent. A few still land at St. Peter, non-sectarian privates, DC public language immersion charters, SWS, Logan etc. but certainly not the majority. Spend time at the Turtle Park playground on weekends and you get a good feel for how much benefit the community accrues from having families enroll WITH RESPECT TO GEOGRAPHY. Overall, those SE parents are much tighter-knit than the LT crowd and the resultant community cohesion counts for a lot. Have you seen what they're paying for down there - the smart boards in almost every classroom, the impressive music and art supplies, the advanced math instruction? The reality is that strong neighborhood schools are optimal, not scattering local talent and diluting parental commitment. No charter or DCPS program with a city-wide lottery raises as much as JKLM or Brent on a per capita basis, not even close. Funny how a truly high-SES friendly set-up (er, DC-CAS scores in the 80s and 90s at your school around the corner) tends to trump educational philosophy...
I'm well familiar with the Turtle Park crowd and it's mostly toddlers not Brent kids (kind of babyish, no?). Plenty of CQ parents there too without kids at Brent. Most of the talk I hear is fretting over prospective PS space for said toddlers (the IB ones at least) and getting sliced out of redistricting. Not to mention PRIVATE school kids. Brent just isn't that big. If you leave your little bubble for 5 minutes you'd know just how dispersed families are throughout the Hill, and not just your small corner of it.
Anonymous
09/17/2013 10:05
Subject: ludlow-taylor
It harms LT by keeping IB parents from enrolling. If I wanted my DC to go to school in a lower SES neighborhood in MD, I'd move there and pocket the difference.
Anonymous
09/17/2013 10:02
Subject: Re:ludlow-taylor
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
This. I know Maury families who said that residency fraud used to be bad there, too, until neighborhood families started sending and keeping their kids there.
That, and the principal standing outside in the morning writing down tag #s from MD vehicles dropping off students. She absolutely walked the walk, filing fraud reports as warranted, and losing some long-time, well-liked families who were cheaters. Kudos to her for real leadership. When will we be seeing the LT principal doing the same?
As an LT parent, I gotta say I feel like there are better ways for Principal Cobbs to use her time than hanging out front writing down license plate #s. Kids from Maryland are a drain on DCPS as a whole, but I don't believe their presence in the classroom harms LT (or any specific school).
Anonymous
09/17/2013 09:10
Subject: Re:ludlow-taylor
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:"I bet the number of address cheaters at ludlow is about on par with other hill schools but because it's ludlow DCUM assumes every kid is from pg."
LT has very few IB residents after k, so there is more to question I suppose. Many hill schools that fill up with IB kids and have a long wait list of area dc kids who are not IB but would love to attend. That leaves very little room for anyone OOB, much less out of state. LT has so few IB that I imagine people don't know if they are simply from other wards or from MD.
This. I know Maury families who said that residency fraud used to be bad there, too, until neighborhood families started sending and keeping their kids there.
That, and the principal standing outside in the morning writing down tag #s from MD vehicles dropping off students. She absolutely walked the walk, filing fraud reports as warranted, and losing some long-time, well-liked families who were cheaters. Kudos to her for real leadership. When will we be seeing the LT principal doing the same?
Anonymous
09/17/2013 08:54
Subject: Re:ludlow-taylor
just wanted to post this NYT article by a ludlow-taylor mom:
http://parenting.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/09/16/in-d-c-where-universal-free-preschool-is-becoming-the-norm/
http://parenting.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/09/16/in-d-c-where-universal-free-preschool-is-becoming-the-norm/
Anonymous
09/17/2013 02:35
Subject: Re:ludlow-taylor
Your comment isn't rooted in reality. Many families enroll in schools without respect to geography. Just look at the Hill students attending private schools across town (not as uncommon as you think). Same deal with charters. People will send their kids to the school they think is best suited to their educational philosophy and the needs of their children. That may be a neighborhood school, but it could just as easiliy be located somewhere else. You are likely to find that your kid's "neighborhood pals" attend school all over the map whether you think that's best or not .
In the LT District, yes, neighborhood pals all over the map. In the Brent District, hardly the case. I'd wager that 3/4 of the K-2nd grade kids there now attend Brent. A few still land at St. Peter, non-sectarian privates, DC public language immersion charters, SWS, Logan etc. but certainly not the majority. Spend time at the Turtle Park playground on weekends and you get a good feel for how much benefit the community accrues from having families enroll WITH RESPECT TO GEOGRAPHY. Overall, those SE parents are much tighter-knit than the LT crowd and the resultant community cohesion counts for a lot. Have you seen what they're paying for down there - the smart boards in almost every classroom, the impressive music and art supplies, the advanced math instruction? The reality is that strong neighborhood schools are optimal, not scattering local talent and diluting parental commitment. No charter or DCPS program with a city-wide lottery raises as much as JKLM or Brent on a per capita basis, not even close. Funny how a truly high-SES friendly set-up (er, DC-CAS scores in the 80s and 90s at your school around the corner) tends to trump educational philosophy...