Anonymous wrote:It's not the unmasking that is illegal (although it is interesting that so many politicos asked for unmasking). It is the leaking that is the problem. That is the crime.
Anonymous wrote:In my former life, I reviewed the transcripts and then minimized (“masked”) the names of US persons before sending out the docs. Without context, it’s frequently impossible to identify the US person in the individual transcripts. If particular transcripts raise a concern because that US Person is communicating with someone who is a NATIONAL SECURITY CONCERN, then someone requests to view the identity of the masked US Person to determine whether the contact is benign or perhaps nefarious. This happens all the time. And we want it to happen, because if your neighbor Bob is talking to a Bin Laden-type, you want to make sure someone is at least aware.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Also, these key words in the NSA memo released today aren’t getting enough attention:
“Each individual was an authorized recipient of the original report & THE UNMASKING WAS APPROVED THROUGH NSA’S STANDARD PROCESS, WHICH INCLUDES A REVIEW OF THE JUSTIFICATION FOR THE REQUEST.”
This is standard practice and happens all the time. If there is intelligence that someone in a position of influence is having secret talks with the Russian ambassador and other foreign government officials, the people in need-to-know positions ask who it is. If the approval process determines that the request is from a need-to-know person, that person gets the name.
Unmasking doesn't mean the name was made public or shared outside the need-to-know national security people, but Trump lovers are too stupid to understand that.
Flynn made everything worse for himself, after the calls to the ambassador, when he lied to Pence and the FBI about them. Once Pence publicly repeated Flynn's lie about he discussed, Flynn was open to blackmail by the Russians who could threaten to expose his lie. That made him a national security threat.
The argument within DOJ was not whether to investigate Flynn, but whether it should be primarily a counterintelligence investigation or a criminal investigation. No one disputed that he lied to the FBI and the VP and that it should be investigated. Barr is lying again and misrepresenting the internal FBI deliberations about the Flynn case.
Just a hunch...... I am betting that unmasking a member of an incoming administration by people in the White House is NOT standard practice.
I don't think you get it. They didn't know they were unmasking a member of an incoming administration. Hence the request to unmask. They were unmasking an unidentified American who was having treasonous conversations. That person just happened to be a member of an incoming administration. Maybe ask, what was the conversation the now Flynn was having and with whom. Let's get the transcripts and recordings and see what he was trying to do and assess if it was valid to make the request based on the information known at the time.
Trumpkins who are crying about unmasking of treasonous conversation which resulted in Flynn’s identification fail to ask if the conversation were above board why did Flynn lie to Pence?
In addition if treasonous conversation caught on wiretapping are not unmasked and a traitor goes on commit a crime against USA, who should be blamed. in addition to the traitor?
I have said this before......
I don't think Flynn actually lied to Pence. I think Pence was told by the FBI that Flynn lied to him. I think they mischaracterized his conversation.
There was NOTHING treasonous in Flynn's conversations. He was the incoming national security advisor. It was his job to speak to people from other countries.
He knew his calls were being monitored. You folks love to throw out these accusations with absolutely no evidence.
You simply cannot recognize that perhaps, many in the Obama administration were not as pure as you want to paint them.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's not the unmasking that is illegal (although it is interesting that so many politicos asked for unmasking). It is the leaking that is the problem. That is the crime.
What leaking? Intel reports are meant to be shared and used and acted upon. That is what they are for. Nothing was leaked.
The transcript was leaked to Washington Post. Leaking classified information is illegal. David Ignatious was the reporter.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Also, these key words in the NSA memo released today aren’t getting enough attention:
“Each individual was an authorized recipient of the original report & THE UNMASKING WAS APPROVED THROUGH NSA’S STANDARD PROCESS, WHICH INCLUDES A REVIEW OF THE JUSTIFICATION FOR THE REQUEST.”
This is standard practice and happens all the time. If there is intelligence that someone in a position of influence is having secret talks with the Russian ambassador and other foreign government officials, the people in need-to-know positions ask who it is. If the approval process determines that the request is from a need-to-know person, that person gets the name.
Unmasking doesn't mean the name was made public or shared outside the need-to-know national security people, but Trump lovers are too stupid to understand that.
Flynn made everything worse for himself, after the calls to the ambassador, when he lied to Pence and the FBI about them. Once Pence publicly repeated Flynn's lie about he discussed, Flynn was open to blackmail by the Russians who could threaten to expose his lie. That made him a national security threat.
The argument within DOJ was not whether to investigate Flynn, but whether it should be primarily a counterintelligence investigation or a criminal investigation. No one disputed that he lied to the FBI and the VP and that it should be investigated. Barr is lying again and misrepresenting the internal FBI deliberations about the Flynn case.
Just a hunch...... I am betting that unmasking a member of an incoming administration by people in the White House is NOT standard practice.
I don't think you get it. They didn't know they were unmasking a member of an incoming administration. Hence the request to unmask. They were unmasking an unidentified American who was having treasonous conversations. That person just happened to be a member of an incoming administration. Maybe ask, what was the conversation the now Flynn was having and with whom. Let's get the transcripts and recordings and see what he was trying to do and assess if it was valid to make the request based on the information known at the time.
Trumpkins who are crying about unmasking of treasonous conversation which resulted in Flynn’s identification fail to ask if the conversation were above board why did Flynn lie to Pence?
In addition if treasonous conversation caught on wiretapping are not unmasked and a traitor goes on commit a crime against USA, who should be blamed. in addition to the traitor?
I have said this before......
I don't think Flynn actually lied to Pence. I think Pence was told by the FBI that Flynn lied to him. I think they mischaracterized his conversation.
YuThere was NOTHING treasonous in Flynn's conversations. He was the incoming national security advisor. It was his job to speak to people from other countries.
He knew his calls were being monitored. You folks love to throw out these accusations with absolutely no evidence.
You simply cannot recognize that perhaps, many in the Obama administration were not as pure as you want to paint them.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's not the unmasking that is illegal (although it is interesting that so many politicos asked for unmasking). It is the leaking that is the problem. That is the crime.
What leaking? Intel reports are meant to be shared and used and acted upon. That is what they are for. Nothing was leaked.
Anonymous wrote:It's not the unmasking that is illegal (although it is interesting that so many politicos asked for unmasking). It is the leaking that is the problem. That is the crime.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Also, these key words in the NSA memo released today aren’t getting enough attention:
“Each individual was an authorized recipient of the original report & THE UNMASKING WAS APPROVED THROUGH NSA’S STANDARD PROCESS, WHICH INCLUDES A REVIEW OF THE JUSTIFICATION FOR THE REQUEST.”
This is standard practice and happens all the time. If there is intelligence that someone in a position of influence is having secret talks with the Russian ambassador and other foreign government officials, the people in need-to-know positions ask who it is. If the approval process determines that the request is from a need-to-know person, that person gets the name.
Unmasking doesn't mean the name was made public or shared outside the need-to-know national security people, but Trump lovers are too stupid to understand that.
Flynn made everything worse for himself, after the calls to the ambassador, when he lied to Pence and the FBI about them. Once Pence publicly repeated Flynn's lie about he discussed, Flynn was open to blackmail by the Russians who could threaten to expose his lie. That made him a national security threat.
The argument within DOJ was not whether to investigate Flynn, but whether it should be primarily a counterintelligence investigation or a criminal investigation. No one disputed that he lied to the FBI and the VP and that it should be investigated. Barr is lying again and misrepresenting the internal FBI deliberations about the Flynn case.
Just a hunch...... I am betting that unmasking a member of an incoming administration by people in the White House is NOT standard practice.
I don't think you get it. They didn't know they were unmasking a member of an incoming administration. Hence the request to unmask. They were unmasking an unidentified American who was having treasonous conversations. That person just happened to be a member of an incoming administration. Maybe ask, what was the conversation the now Flynn was having and with whom. Let's get the transcripts and recordings and see what he was trying to do and assess if it was valid to make the request based on the information known at the time.
Trumpkins who are crying about unmasking of treasonous conversation which resulted in Flynn’s identification fail to ask if the conversation were above board why did Flynn lie to Pence?
In addition if treasonous conversation caught on wiretapping are not unmasked and a traitor goes on commit a crime against USA, who should be blamed. in addition to the traitor?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Also, these key words in the NSA memo released today aren’t getting enough attention:
“Each individual was an authorized recipient of the original report & THE UNMASKING WAS APPROVED THROUGH NSA’S STANDARD PROCESS, WHICH INCLUDES A REVIEW OF THE JUSTIFICATION FOR THE REQUEST.”
This is standard practice and happens all the time. If there is intelligence that someone in a position of influence is having secret talks with the Russian ambassador and other foreign government officials, the people in need-to-know positions ask who it is. If the approval process determines that the request is from a need-to-know person, that person gets the name.
Unmasking doesn't mean the name was made public or shared outside the need-to-know national security people, but Trump lovers are too stupid to understand that.
Flynn made everything worse for himself, after the calls to the ambassador, when he lied to Pence and the FBI about them. Once Pence publicly repeated Flynn's lie about he discussed, Flynn was open to blackmail by the Russians who could threaten to expose his lie. That made him a national security threat.
The argument within DOJ was not whether to investigate Flynn, but whether it should be primarily a counterintelligence investigation or a criminal investigation. No one disputed that he lied to the FBI and the VP and that it should be investigated. Barr is lying again and misrepresenting the internal FBI deliberations about the Flynn case.
Just a hunch...... I am betting that unmasking a member of an incoming administration by people in the White House is NOT standard practice.
I don't think you get it. They didn't know they were unmasking a member of an incoming administration. Hence the request to unmask. They were unmasking an unidentified American who was having treasonous conversations. That person just happened to be a member of an incoming administration. Maybe ask, what was the conversation the now Flynn was having and with whom. Let's get the transcripts and recordings and see what he was trying to do and assess if it was valid to make the request based on the information known at the time.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Also, these key words in the NSA memo released today aren’t getting enough attention:
“Each individual was an authorized recipient of the original report & THE UNMASKING WAS APPROVED THROUGH NSA’S STANDARD PROCESS, WHICH INCLUDES A REVIEW OF THE JUSTIFICATION FOR THE REQUEST.”
This is standard practice and happens all the time. If there is intelligence that someone in a position of influence is having secret talks with the Russian ambassador and other foreign government officials, the people in need-to-know positions ask who it is. If the approval process determines that the request is from a need-to-know person, that person gets the name.
Unmasking doesn't mean the name was made public or shared outside the need-to-know national security people, but Trump lovers are too stupid to understand that.
Flynn made everything worse for himself, after the calls to the ambassador, when he lied to Pence and the FBI about them. Once Pence publicly repeated Flynn's lie about he discussed, Flynn was open to blackmail by the Russians who could threaten to expose his lie. That made him a national security threat.
The argument within DOJ was not whether to investigate Flynn, but whether it should be primarily a counterintelligence investigation or a criminal investigation. No one disputed that he lied to the FBI and the VP and that it should be investigated. Barr is lying again and misrepresenting the internal FBI deliberations about the Flynn case.
Just a hunch...... I am betting that unmasking a member of an incoming administration by people in the White House is NOT standard practice.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:In a surprise to no one, it turns out that the only one using unmasking as a political weapon is the dirtbag Trump.
I think we can safely say that pretty much all the gop accusations about impropriety are projection. Flynn is a crook and a liar. Donald was warned about him, to his face, by Obama. I guess given Donald’s personality disorders he was always going to do what President Obama told him not to do.
How many anti-Trump partisan hacks still worked in the WH those years
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Also, these key words in the NSA memo released today aren’t getting enough attention:
“Each individual was an authorized recipient of the original report & THE UNMASKING WAS APPROVED THROUGH NSA’S STANDARD PROCESS, WHICH INCLUDES A REVIEW OF THE JUSTIFICATION FOR THE REQUEST.”
This is standard practice and happens all the time. If there is intelligence that someone in a position of influence is having secret talks with the Russian ambassador and other foreign government officials, the people in need-to-know positions ask who it is. If the approval process determines that the request is from a need-to-know person, that person gets the name.
Unmasking doesn't mean the name was made public or shared outside the need-to-know national security people, but Trump lovers are too stupid to understand that.
Flynn made everything worse for himself, after the calls to the ambassador, when he lied to Pence and the FBI about them. Once Pence publicly repeated Flynn's lie about he discussed, Flynn was open to blackmail by the Russians who could threaten to expose his lie. That made him a national security threat.
The argument within DOJ was not whether to investigate Flynn, but whether it should be primarily a counterintelligence investigation or a criminal investigation. No one disputed that he lied to the FBI and the VP and that it should be investigated. Barr is lying again and misrepresenting the internal FBI deliberations about the Flynn case.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:In a surprise to no one, it turns out that the only one using unmasking as a political weapon is the dirtbag Trump.
I think we can safely say that pretty much all the gop accusations about impropriety are projection. Flynn is a crook and a liar. Donald was warned about him, to his face, by Obama. I guess given Donald’s personality disorders he was always going to do what President Obama told him not to do.
How many anti-Trump partisan hacks still worked in the WH those years