Anonymous
Post 12/02/2021 22:15     Subject: Re:To you, what's the bottom of the "elite" colleges?
Anonymous wrote:
As for the Elites, it's what you and another poster or two decided. What are your credentials to decide this? In fact, there are other schools ranked higher than some of the ones in your group, and they have higher student SAT ranges and averages too. Sorry, your Elite grouping is not definitive.


Which schools are you talking about? The "elite" schools feels pretty definitive and exhaustive to me.


The so-called “definitive” list survived this thread by sheer number of posts. The number of posts in this thread is a function - not of any general consensus - but of how much free time these proponents have. For all I know, they may be unemployed, or underemployed people, coming on here touting their “definitive” list. Busy people who may disagree with the “definitive” list don’t come here. They are too busy changing the world.
Anonymous
Post 12/02/2021 22:12     Subject: To you, what's the bottom of the "elite" colleges?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Berkeley, Michigan, and UCLA are the only three elite publics.


UT Austin, UVA, and UNC are public Ivies.


The only publics with across the board academic excellence at both the undergraduate and graduate levels are Berkeley, Michigan, and UCLA.
Anonymous
Post 12/02/2021 22:07     Subject: To you, what's the bottom of the "elite" colleges?
Anonymous wrote:Berkeley, Michigan, and UCLA are the only three elite publics.


UT Austin, UVA, and UNC are public Ivies.
Anonymous
Post 12/02/2021 22:04     Subject: To you, what's the bottom of the "elite" colleges?
Berkeley, Michigan, and UCLA are the only three elite publics.
Anonymous
Post 12/02/2021 22:03     Subject: To you, what's the bottom of the "elite" colleges?
Anonymous wrote:I think the public Ivies are the bottom of “elite” at this point. Clearly not in the Harvard or Penn category, but given how intense the competition is these days and how well funded the flagship state universities are (not to mention really hard to get into!) I would include schools like Michigan, UVA, and Minnesota as “elite” if we’re going to have the discussion.


Minnesota? Uh...

I could agree with Michigan, UCLA, UVA, Berkeley being elite. Not sure about any other schools below them.
Anonymous
Post 12/02/2021 22:01     Subject: To you, what's the bottom of the "elite" colleges?
I think the public Ivies are the bottom of “elite” at this point. Clearly not in the Harvard or Penn category, but given how intense the competition is these days and how well funded the flagship state universities are (not to mention really hard to get into!) I would include schools like Michigan, UVA, and Minnesota as “elite” if we’re going to have the discussion.
Anonymous
Post 12/02/2021 21:43     Subject: Re:To you, what's the bottom of the "elite" colleges?
As for the Elites, it's what you and another poster or two decided. What are your credentials to decide this? In fact, there are other schools ranked higher than some of the ones in your group, and they have higher student SAT ranges and averages too. Sorry, your Elite grouping is not definitive.


Which schools are you talking about? The "elite" schools feels pretty definitive and exhaustive to me.
Anonymous
Post 12/02/2021 21:28     Subject: To you, what's the bottom of the "elite" colleges?
Anonymous wrote:It’s unclear whether these imbeciles think they’re being clever or perhaps they lack any semblance of self awareness. Regardless, this thread is an embarrassing display of the education one receives at public universities……on the outside forever looking in.


Ha! What incentive would a public university student or parent have to make this list? It's overwhelmingly privates. Perhaps, you received a bad education at a private. Hopefully, not from one of these "elite" schools.
Anonymous
Post 12/02/2021 21:24     Subject: To you, what's the bottom of the "elite" colleges?
It’s unclear whether these imbeciles think they’re being clever or perhaps they lack any semblance of self awareness. Regardless, this thread is an embarrassing display of the education one receives at public universities……on the outside forever looking in.
Anonymous
Post 12/02/2021 21:17     Subject: Re:To you, what's the bottom of the "elite" colleges?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Elitest:
Harvard
Yale
Princeton
Stanford
MIT

Elites:
Columbia*
UPenn
Caltech
Chicago
Duke
Northwestern
Dartmouth
Brown
Cornell
Hopkins
Berkeley

*Has a strong case to be in the "Elitest" category.


Elite of the Elites:
Harvard
Yale
Princeton
Stanford
MIT

Elites:
Columbia*
UPenn
Caltech
Chicago
Duke
Northwestern*
Dartmouth
Brown
Cornell
Hopkins
Berkeley

*Has a strong case to be in the "Obnoxious Booster" category


Elite of the Elites:
Harvard
Yale
Princeton
Stanford
MIT

Elites:
Columbia*
UPenn*
Caltech
Chicago*
Duke*
Northwestern*
Dartmouth
Brown*
Cornell
Hopkins
Berkeley*

*Has a strong case to be in the "Obnoxious Booster" category




Oxbridge peers

Harvard
Yale
Princeton


United States Elites:


MIT
Columbia
Stanford
UPenn
Caltech
Chicago
Duke
Northwestern
Dartmouth
Brown
Cornell
Hopkins


No one cares about Oxbridge. They should be lucky to even be considered along the U.S. elites.


I was talking to a british couple once. They were impressed by US state universities and was wondering why anyone would even consider private colleges and universities. I explained to them that private schools usually tout their English lineage, such as Yale residential college and Williams
college’ tutoring. Americans are willing to fork over $80,000+ per year for the privilege of attending schools mimicking the UK system. To this, they rolled their eyes. Brits are the only people who laughs at HYP. If you don’t believe me, check out William Buckley’s talk at Oxford. During his introduction, the moderator mentioned one of his books, God and Man at Yale. You can hear oxford students snickering and laughing at this little country bumpkin from New Havens.


A British Couple Story without the trolling fabrications of the previous poster.
I was talking to a British couple once. They were impressed with Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Stanford, MIT and were wondering why anyone would even consider going anywhere else. I explained to them that Harvard and Yale have a proud English lineage, such as the Yale residential college system. Americans are willing to fork over $80,000+ per year for the privilege of attending these schools. To this, they beamed with pride. Brits have a tremendous respect for Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Stanford and MIT. Further, the Brits acknowledge and accept that Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Stanford, and MIT surpassed Oxford and Cambridge centuries ago.

Once again the Definitive List of Elites (sans British institutions)!

Elite of the Elites:
Harvard
Yale
Princeton
Stanford
MIT

Elites:
Columbia
UPenn
Caltech
Chicago
Duke
Northwestern
Dartmouth
Brown
Cornell
Hopkins
Berkeley


People come here pushing their agenda. It’s not useful for parents who might be here for useful information.


The Elite of Elites, I'll buy as definitive. But then again, they were never in doubt (no backslaps for that work, chap!). As for the Elites, it's what you and another poster or two decided. What are your credentials to decide this? In fact, there are other schools ranked higher than some of the ones in your group, and they have higher student SAT ranges and averages too. Sorry, your Elite grouping is not definitive.
Anonymous
Post 12/02/2021 20:32     Subject: To you, what's the bottom of the "elite" colleges?
This settles it.

“Kayleigh McEnany says she didn't lie in the White House briefing room because she went to Oxford, Harvard...”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/kayleigh-mcenany-says-she-didnt-225112768.html
Anonymous
Post 12/02/2021 18:49     Subject: Re:To you, what's the bottom of the "elite" colleges?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Elitest:
Harvard
Yale
Princeton
Stanford
MIT

Elites:
Columbia*
UPenn
Caltech
Chicago
Duke
Northwestern
Dartmouth
Brown
Cornell
Hopkins
Berkeley

*Has a strong case to be in the "Elitest" category.


Elite of the Elites:
Harvard
Yale
Princeton
Stanford
MIT

Elites:
Columbia*
UPenn
Caltech
Chicago
Duke
Northwestern*
Dartmouth
Brown
Cornell
Hopkins
Berkeley

*Has a strong case to be in the "Obnoxious Booster" category


Elite of the Elites:
Harvard
Yale
Princeton
Stanford
MIT

Elites:
Columbia*
UPenn*
Caltech
Chicago*
Duke*
Northwestern*
Dartmouth
Brown*
Cornell
Hopkins
Berkeley*

*Has a strong case to be in the "Obnoxious Booster" category




Oxbridge peers

Harvard
Yale
Princeton


United States Elites:


MIT
Columbia
Stanford
UPenn
Caltech
Chicago
Duke
Northwestern
Dartmouth
Brown
Cornell
Hopkins


No one cares about Oxbridge. They should be lucky to even be considered along the U.S. elites.


I was talking to a british couple once. They were impressed by US state universities and was wondering why anyone would even consider private colleges and universities. I explained to them that private schools usually tout their English lineage, such as Yale residential college and Williams
college’ tutoring. Americans are willing to fork over $80,000+ per year for the privilege of attending schools mimicking the UK system. To this, they rolled their eyes. Brits are the only people who laughs at HYP. If you don’t believe me, check out William Buckley’s talk at Oxford. During his introduction, the moderator mentioned one of his books, God and Man at Yale. You can hear oxford students snickering and laughing at this little country bumpkin from New Havens.


A British Couple Story without the trolling fabrications of the previous poster.
I was talking to a British couple once. They were impressed with Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Stanford, MIT and were wondering why anyone would even consider going anywhere else. I explained to them that Harvard and Yale have a proud English lineage, such as the Yale residential college system. Americans are willing to fork over $80,000+ per year for the privilege of attending these schools. To this, they beamed with pride. Brits have a tremendous respect for Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Stanford and MIT. Further, the Brits acknowledge and accept that Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Stanford, and MIT surpassed Oxford and Cambridge centuries ago.

Once again the Definitive List of Elites (sans British institutions)!

Elite of the Elites:
Harvard
Yale
Princeton
Stanford
MIT

Elites:
Columbia
UPenn
Caltech
Chicago
Duke
Northwestern
Dartmouth
Brown
Cornell
Hopkins
Berkeley


People come here pushing their agenda. It’s not useful for parents who might be here for useful information.
Anonymous
Post 12/02/2021 16:07     Subject: Re:To you, what's the bottom of the "elite" colleges?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Elitest:
Harvard
Yale
Princeton
Stanford
MIT

Elites:
Columbia*
UPenn
Caltech
Chicago
Duke
Northwestern
Dartmouth
Brown
Cornell
Hopkins
Berkeley

*Has a strong case to be in the "Elitest" category.


Elite of the Elites:
Harvard
Yale
Princeton
Stanford
MIT

Elites:
Columbia*
UPenn
Caltech
Chicago
Duke
Northwestern*
Dartmouth
Brown
Cornell
Hopkins
Berkeley

*Has a strong case to be in the "Obnoxious Booster" category


Elite of the Elites:
Harvard
Yale
Princeton
Stanford
MIT

Elites:
Columbia*
UPenn*
Caltech
Chicago*
Duke*
Northwestern*
Dartmouth
Brown*
Cornell
Hopkins
Berkeley*

*Has a strong case to be in the "Obnoxious Booster" category




Oxbridge peers

Harvard
Yale
Princeton


United States Elites:


MIT
Columbia
Stanford
UPenn
Caltech
Chicago
Duke
Northwestern
Dartmouth
Brown
Cornell
Hopkins


No one cares about Oxbridge. They should be lucky to even be considered along the U.S. elites.


I was talking to a british couple once. They were impressed by US state universities and was wondering why anyone would even consider private colleges and universities. I explained to them that private schools usually tout their English lineage, such as Yale residential college and Williams
college’ tutoring. Americans are willing to fork over $80,000+ per year for the privilege of attending schools mimicking the UK system. To this, they rolled their eyes. Brits are the only people who laughs at HYP. If you don’t believe me, check out William Buckley’s talk at Oxford. During his introduction, the moderator mentioned one of his books, God and Man at Yale. You can hear oxford students snickering and laughing at this little country bumpkin from New Havens.


A British Couple Story without the trolling fabrications of the previous poster.
I was talking to a British couple once. They were impressed with Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Stanford, MIT and were wondering why anyone would even consider going anywhere else. I explained to them that Harvard and Yale have a proud English lineage, such as the Yale residential college system. Americans are willing to fork over $80,000+ per year for the privilege of attending these schools. To this, they beamed with pride. Brits have a tremendous respect for Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Stanford and MIT. Further, the Brits acknowledge and accept that Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Stanford, and MIT surpassed Oxford and Cambridge centuries ago.

Once again the Definitive List of Elites (sans British institutions)!

Elite of the Elites:
Harvard
Yale
Princeton
Stanford
MIT

Elites:
Columbia
UPenn
Caltech
Chicago
Duke
Northwestern
Dartmouth
Brown
Cornell
Hopkins
Berkeley
Anonymous
Post 12/02/2021 16:03     Subject: Re:To you, what's the bottom of the "elite" colleges?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My god, this stupid topic keeps showing up atop the discussion list. It's like we're all stuck on a continual Reply All email thread. It's inane, pointless troll bait. People, MOVE ON.



So the only legitimate heir to british Oxbridge in the US is HYP.

Anonymous
Post 12/02/2021 16:00     Subject: Re:To you, what's the bottom of the "elite" colleges?
Anonymous wrote:My god, this stupid topic keeps showing up atop the discussion list. It's like we're all stuck on a continual Reply All email thread. It's inane, pointless troll bait. People, MOVE ON.



So the only legitimate heir to british Oxbridge in the US is HYP.