I keep thinking "Remington Steele."

I'm old.

Jeff, are you enjoying that you share a last name with Mr. Steele?

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Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's obvious Steele is some broken down failure as an MI 6 agent if he ever was really that who is playing on that reputation as public relations to get clients. He's got a two man operation, for christ sake, working out of a condo or something. The over inflated description of the services he claims to provide is like Robert Ludlum wrote it. Who is this guy, Kroll? I don't think so.

I think Steele is a failed MI6 agent who, to make a living, is a small time scammer. Every now and then he gets a "live" client who doesn't really want the truth, just wants some smear material with plausible deniability, whether it's true or false or totally fabricated doesn't matter.

Nothing Steele has ever done has gotten anywhere this much attention and heat, so now he's panicked and "gone to ground." He finally scammed and scammed and scammed and now has to answer for it, and can't. The claim that he fears for his life is ludicrous.

The available evidence suggests exactly the opposite of what you are saying. He apparently had a very good record in MI6. He was also very important in the FIFA investigation and, as a result, established his credibility with the FBI.

I might be missing something, but I can't see how the available evidence suggests that we give more credence to either one of these views. I haven't seen the FIFA report and I have no idea how good it was or how important it was, but the stories I've read never go beyond saying a report was produced and that the investigation, for whatever reason, caught some officials. I may be mistaken, but nothing says Steele's firm's report was especially key or even helpful. If Steele and co. were particularly adept at finding financial links in particular, that would be especially germane here.

And the first poster above is absolutely right about small time scammers around these businesses. Verification is tough, so it's easier than many think to put one past folks.

OMG the FIFA report totally upended the sport.

I think the fact that Steele is in hiding from Putin is additional evidence that what he wrote is true. Steele stole his leverage over POTUS. If it was fake, he has no reason to go after him, any more than he would hunt down and kill the guy who makes gifs of him riding a unicorn.

That was the Garcia report, right? I'm not sure this Steele character (NOT Jeff!) was involved in that particular report, though his firm was said to have produced some report related to the FIFA investigation.

jsteele wrote:The FBI worked with Steele on the FIFA investigation and was impressed enough with him to take his Trump dossier seriously. That is one group of experts giving a vote of confidence to another expert. On the other hand, an anonymous poster here thinks he is a loser. I guess both views are equal.

Sure. Why not?

We could bend over sideways, throw a leg in the air, and force a "balanced" point, or we could go with rationality. Whatever.

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's obvious Steele is some broken down failure as an MI 6 agent if he ever was really that who is playing on that reputation as public relations to get clients. He's got a two man operation, for christ sake, working out of a condo or something. The over inflated description of the services he claims to provide is like Robert Ludlum wrote it. Who is this guy, Kroll? I don't think so.

I think Steele is a failed MI6 agent who, to make a living, is a small time scammer. Every now and then he gets a "live" client who doesn't really want the truth, just wants some smear material with plausible deniability, whether it's true or false or totally fabricated doesn't matter.

Nothing Steele has ever done has gotten anywhere this much attention and heat, so now he's panicked and "gone to ground." He finally scammed and scammed and scammed and now has to answer for it, and can't. The claim that he fears for his life is ludicrous.

The available evidence suggests exactly the opposite of what you are saying. He apparently had a very good record in MI6. He was also very important in the FIFA investigation and, as a result, established his credibility with the FBI.

OR this:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/12/intelligence-sources-vouch-credibility-donald-trump-russia-dossier-author

"One described him as “very credible” – a sober, cautious and meticulous professional with a formidable record...The former Foreign Office official, who has known Steele for 25 years and considers him a friend, said: “The idea his work is fake or a cowboy operation is false – completely untrue. Chris is an experienced and highly regarded professional. He’s not the sort of person who will simply pass on gossip.”

The official added: “If he puts something in a report, he believes there’s sufficient credibility in it for it to be worth considering. Chris is a very straight guy. He could not have survived in the job he was in if he had been prone to flights of fancy or doing things in an ill-considered way.”

That is the way the CIA and the FBI, not to mention the British government, regarded him, too. It’s not hard to see why.

A Cambridge graduate, Steele was one of the more eminent Russia specialists for the Secret Intelligence Service (MI6). The Guardian understands that he focused on Soviet affairs after joining the agency, and spent two years living in Moscow in the early 1990s...."

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's obvious Steele is some broken down failure as an MI 6 agent if he ever was really that who is playing on that reputation as public relations to get clients. He's got a two man operation, for christ sake, working out of a condo or something. The over inflated description of the services he claims to provide is like Robert Ludlum wrote it. Who is this guy, Kroll? I don't think so.

I think Steele is a failed MI6 agent who, to make a living, is a small time scammer. Every now and then he gets a "live" client who doesn't really want the truth, just wants some smear material with plausible deniability, whether it's true or false or totally fabricated doesn't matter.

Nothing Steele has ever done has gotten anywhere this much attention and heat, so now he's panicked and "gone to ground." He finally scammed and scammed and scammed and now has to answer for it, and can't. The claim that he fears for his life is ludicrous.

The available evidence suggests exactly the opposite of what you are saying. He apparently had a very good record in MI6. He was also very important in the FIFA investigation and, as a result, established his credibility with the FBI.

I might be missing something, but I can't see how the available evidence suggests that we give more credence to either one of these views. I haven't seen the FIFA report and I have no idea how good it was or how important it was, but the stories I've read never go beyond saying a report was produced and that the investigation, for whatever reason, caught some officials. I may be mistaken, but nothing says Steele's firm's report was especially key or even helpful. If Steele and co. were particularly adept at finding financial links in particular, that would be especially germane here.

And the first poster above is absolutely right about small time scammers around these businesses. Verification is tough, so it's easier than many think to put one past folks.

Read this article:

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-steele-idUSKBN14W0HN

Thanks, Jeff. I just read it and I'm afraid it didn't present anything that I hadn't seen before or would make me change my previous post. There's very, very wide room to interpret something like that and I can tell you from being a source for front page news in the past, reporters are at such a disadvantage that clever folks who know more about a subject can really play them. I'm sticking with possibility that both you and the first poster in the subthread could be correct here or that the truth is something unexpected. Short really intimate knowledge of the issues involved or perhaps a trusted third party, and I mean someone I knew very well, I'm having trouble being firm one way or another.

The FBI worked with Steele on the FIFA investigation and was impressed enough with him to take his Trump dossier seriously. That is one group of experts giving a vote of confidence to another expert. On the other hand, an anonymous poster here thinks he is a loser. I guess both views are equal.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's obvious Steele is some broken down failure as an MI 6 agent if he ever was really that who is playing on that reputation as public relations to get clients. He's got a two man operation, for christ sake, working out of a condo or something. The over inflated description of the services he claims to provide is like Robert Ludlum wrote it. Who is this guy, Kroll? I don't think so.

I think Steele is a failed MI6 agent who, to make a living, is a small time scammer. Every now and then he gets a "live" client who doesn't really want the truth, just wants some smear material with plausible deniability, whether it's true or false or totally fabricated doesn't matter.

Nothing Steele has ever done has gotten anywhere this much attention and heat, so now he's panicked and "gone to ground." He finally scammed and scammed and scammed and now has to answer for it, and can't. The claim that he fears for his life is ludicrous.

The available evidence suggests exactly the opposite of what you are saying. He apparently had a very good record in MI6. He was also very important in the FIFA investigation and, as a result, established his credibility with the FBI.

I might be missing something, but I can't see how the available evidence suggests that we give more credence to either one of these views. I haven't seen the FIFA report and I have no idea how good it was or how important it was, but the stories I've read never go beyond saying a report was produced and that the investigation, for whatever reason, caught some officials. I may be mistaken, but nothing says Steele's firm's report was especially key or even helpful. If Steele and co. were particularly adept at finding financial links in particular, that would be especially germane here.

And the first poster above is absolutely right about small time scammers around these businesses. Verification is tough, so it's easier than many think to put one past folks.

OMG the FIFA report totally upended the sport.

I think the fact that Steele is in hiding from Putin is additional evidence that what he wrote is true. Steele stole his leverage over POTUS. If it was fake, he has no reason to go after him, any more than he would hunt down and kill the guy who makes gifs of him riding a unicorn.

Which probably the only good thing about this whole affair.

For the poster who does not understand the significance of the FIFA corruption report, here is a sampling of world newspapers when it broke.

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's obvious Steele is some broken down failure as an MI 6 agent if he ever was really that who is playing on that reputation as public relations to get clients. He's got a two man operation, for christ sake, working out of a condo or something. The over inflated description of the services he claims to provide is like Robert Ludlum wrote it. Who is this guy, Kroll? I don't think so.

I think Steele is a failed MI6 agent who, to make a living, is a small time scammer. Every now and then he gets a "live" client who doesn't really want the truth, just wants some smear material with plausible deniability, whether it's true or false or totally fabricated doesn't matter.

Nothing Steele has ever done has gotten anywhere this much attention and heat, so now he's panicked and "gone to ground." He finally scammed and scammed and scammed and now has to answer for it, and can't. The claim that he fears for his life is ludicrous.

The available evidence suggests exactly the opposite of what you are saying. He apparently had a very good record in MI6. He was also very important in the FIFA investigation and, as a result, established his credibility with the FBI.

I might be missing something, but I can't see how the available evidence suggests that we give more credence to either one of these views. I haven't seen the FIFA report and I have no idea how good it was or how important it was, but the stories I've read never go beyond saying a report was produced and that the investigation, for whatever reason, caught some officials. I may be mistaken, but nothing says Steele's firm's report was especially key or even helpful. If Steele and co. were particularly adept at finding financial links in particular, that would be especially germane here.

And the first poster above is absolutely right about small time scammers around these businesses. Verification is tough, so it's easier than many think to put one past folks.

Read this article:

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-steele-idUSKBN14W0HN

Thanks, Jeff. I just read it and I'm afraid it didn't present anything that I hadn't seen before or would make me change my previous post. There's very, very wide room to interpret something like that and I can tell you from being a source for front page news in the past, reporters are at such a disadvantage that clever folks who know more about a subject can really play them. I'm sticking with possibility that both you and the first poster in the subthread could be correct here or that the truth is something unexpected. Short really intimate knowledge of the issues involved or perhaps a trusted third party, and I mean someone I knew very well, I'm having trouble being firm one way or another.

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's obvious Steele is some broken down failure as an MI 6 agent if he ever was really that who is playing on that reputation as public relations to get clients. He's got a two man operation, for christ sake, working out of a condo or something. The over inflated description of the services he claims to provide is like Robert Ludlum wrote it. Who is this guy, Kroll? I don't think so.

I think Steele is a failed MI6 agent who, to make a living, is a small time scammer. Every now and then he gets a "live" client who doesn't really want the truth, just wants some smear material with plausible deniability, whether it's true or false or totally fabricated doesn't matter.

Nothing Steele has ever done has gotten anywhere this much attention and heat, so now he's panicked and "gone to ground." He finally scammed and scammed and scammed and now has to answer for it, and can't. The claim that he fears for his life is ludicrous.

The available evidence suggests exactly the opposite of what you are saying. He apparently had a very good record in MI6. He was also very important in the FIFA investigation and, as a result, established his credibility with the FBI.

I might be missing something, but I can't see how the available evidence suggests that we give more credence to either one of these views. I haven't seen the FIFA report and I have no idea how good it was or how important it was, but the stories I've read never go beyond saying a report was produced and that the investigation, for whatever reason, caught some officials. I may be mistaken, but nothing says Steele's firm's report was especially key or even helpful. If Steele and co. were particularly adept at finding financial links in particular, that would be especially germane here.

And the first poster above is absolutely right about small time scammers around these businesses. Verification is tough, so it's easier than many think to put one past folks.

OMG the FIFA report totally upended the sport.

I think the fact that Steele is in hiding from Putin is additional evidence that what he wrote is true. Steele stole his leverage over POTUS. If it was fake, he has no reason to go after him, any more than he would hunt down and kill the guy who makes gifs of him riding a unicorn.

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's obvious Steele is some broken down failure as an MI 6 agent if he ever was really that who is playing on that reputation as public relations to get clients. He's got a two man operation, for christ sake, working out of a condo or something. The over inflated description of the services he claims to provide is like Robert Ludlum wrote it. Who is this guy, Kroll? I don't think so.

I think Steele is a failed MI6 agent who, to make a living, is a small time scammer. Every now and then he gets a "live" client who doesn't really want the truth, just wants some smear material with plausible deniability, whether it's true or false or totally fabricated doesn't matter.

Nothing Steele has ever done has gotten anywhere this much attention and heat, so now he's panicked and "gone to ground." He finally scammed and scammed and scammed and now has to answer for it, and can't. The claim that he fears for his life is ludicrous.

The available evidence suggests exactly the opposite of what you are saying. He apparently had a very good record in MI6. He was also very important in the FIFA investigation and, as a result, established his credibility with the FBI.

I might be missing something, but I can't see how the available evidence suggests that we give more credence to either one of these views. I haven't seen the FIFA report and I have no idea how good it was or how important it was, but the stories I've read never go beyond saying a report was produced and that the investigation, for whatever reason, caught some officials. I may be mistaken, but nothing says Steele's firm's report was especially key or even helpful. If Steele and co. were particularly adept at finding financial links in particular, that would be especially germane here.

And the first poster above is absolutely right about small time scammers around these businesses. Verification is tough, so it's easier than many think to put one past folks.

Well, the company he works for provides intelligence for hire services. I doubt it is typical for the IC to release financial connections made until they have been investigated.

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's obvious Steele is some broken down failure as an MI 6 agent if he ever was really that who is playing on that reputation as public relations to get clients. He's got a two man operation, for christ sake, working out of a condo or something. The over inflated description of the services he claims to provide is like Robert Ludlum wrote it. Who is this guy, Kroll? I don't think so.

I think Steele is a failed MI6 agent who, to make a living, is a small time scammer. Every now and then he gets a "live" client who doesn't really want the truth, just wants some smear material with plausible deniability, whether it's true or false or totally fabricated doesn't matter.

Nothing Steele has ever done has gotten anywhere this much attention and heat, so now he's panicked and "gone to ground." He finally scammed and scammed and scammed and now has to answer for it, and can't. The claim that he fears for his life is ludicrous.

The available evidence suggests exactly the opposite of what you are saying. He apparently had a very good record in MI6. He was also very important in the FIFA investigation and, as a result, established his credibility with the FBI.

I might be missing something, but I can't see how the available evidence suggests that we give more credence to either one of these views. I haven't seen the FIFA report and I have no idea how good it was or how important it was, but the stories I've read never go beyond saying a report was produced and that the investigation, for whatever reason, caught some officials. I may be mistaken, but nothing says Steele's firm's report was especially key or even helpful. If Steele and co. were particularly adept at finding financial links in particular, that would be especially germane here.

And the first poster above is absolutely right about small time scammers around these businesses. Verification is tough, so it's easier than many think to put one past folks.

Well, at least two people, not including Jeff or the US intelligence agencies, have vouched for the memo writer, compared to one anonymous critic.

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's obvious Steele is some broken down failure as an MI 6 agent if he ever was really that who is playing on that reputation as public relations to get clients. He's got a two man operation, for christ sake, working out of a condo or something. The over inflated description of the services he claims to provide is like Robert Ludlum wrote it. Who is this guy, Kroll? I don't think so.

I think Steele is a failed MI6 agent who, to make a living, is a small time scammer. Every now and then he gets a "live" client who doesn't really want the truth, just wants some smear material with plausible deniability, whether it's true or false or totally fabricated doesn't matter.

Nothing Steele has ever done has gotten anywhere this much attention and heat, so now he's panicked and "gone to ground." He finally scammed and scammed and scammed and now has to answer for it, and can't. The claim that he fears for his life is ludicrous.

The available evidence suggests exactly the opposite of what you are saying. He apparently had a very good record in MI6. He was also very important in the FIFA investigation and, as a result, established his credibility with the FBI.

I might be missing something, but I can't see how the available evidence suggests that we give more credence to either one of these views. I haven't seen the FIFA report and I have no idea how good it was or how important it was, but the stories I've read never go beyond saying a report was produced and that the investigation, for whatever reason, caught some officials. I may be mistaken, but nothing says Steele's firm's report was especially key or even helpful. If Steele and co. were particularly adept at finding financial links in particular, that would be especially germane here.

And the first poster above is absolutely right about small time scammers around these businesses. Verification is tough, so it's easier than many think to put one past folks.

Read this article:

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-steele-idUSKBN14W0HN

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump met with LePen

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/global-opinions/an-existential-moment-for-the-euro-american-alliance/2017/01/05/23407646-d360-11e6-945a-76f69a399dd5_story.html?utm_term=.4e302c47e097


This is highly concerning for anyone interested in the world order that includes a European Union and our friends and allies therein.

I think this will backfire on Le Pen. The French do NOT like Trump. He's already become GWB 2.0 in their minds.

GWB is going to look like Obama compared to Trump

Hell Fillmore is going to look like Lincoln compared to Trump.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump met with LePen

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/global-opinions/an-existential-moment-for-the-euro-american-alliance/2017/01/05/23407646-d360-11e6-945a-76f69a399dd5_story.html?utm_term=.4e302c47e097


This is highly concerning for anyone interested in the world order that includes a European Union and our friends and allies therein.

I think this will backfire on Le Pen. The French do NOT like Trump. He's already become GWB 2.0 in their minds.

GWB is going to look like Obama compared to Trump