Anonymous
02/06/2015 20:03
Subject: Re:DC parents leave kids in car for wine tasting
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What is scary is that these are the sorts of parents you might be inclined to trust instinctively as being okay for a drop off playdate. After all, on paper they only have positive attributes:
professional jobs,
graduate school degrees,
high SES
nice home
nice appearance
married
middle aged
These are the sorts of people you'd think would be responsible and would take excellent care of their children. And it's unnerving to see that's not the case at all.
But why would you assume that? I'm not just snarking at you, really, look at your list, and look at this assumption, why are these things connected? Why does evidence of, say, good financial decisionmaking make one think people would be good decisionmakers about other topics?
Are you really that dense?
Graduate school degrees: takes time and attention to study and follow through
Nice home, nice appearance: show that they can have attention to details
Professional jobs: have positions that require to have initiative, able to handle responsibilities, able to think on one's own
Middle aged: have life experience, maturity
High SES: assuming that money was not inherited, they had to show diligence and commitment to a particular field to earn more and more money
Nicely laid out. I note that none of those have anything to do with empathy or emotional intelligence, Which are way more important for parenting than persistence.
Anonymous
02/06/2015 19:49
Subject: Re:DC parents leave kids in car for wine tasting
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What is scary is that these are the sorts of parents you might be inclined to trust instinctively as being okay for a drop off playdate. After all, on paper they only have positive attributes:
professional jobs,
graduate school degrees,
high SES
nice home
nice appearance
married
middle aged
These are the sorts of people you'd think would be responsible and would take excellent care of their children. And it's unnerving to see that's not the case at all.
But why would you assume that? I'm not just snarking at you, really, look at your list, and look at this assumption, why are these things connected? Why does evidence of, say, good financial decisionmaking make one think people would be good decisionmakers about other topics?
Are you really that dense?
Graduate school degrees: takes time and attention to study and follow through
Nice home, nice appearance: show that they can have attention to details
Professional jobs: have positions that require to have initiative, able to handle responsibilities, able to think on one's own
Middle aged: have life experience, maturity
High SES: assuming that money was not inherited, they had to show diligence and commitment to a particular field to earn more and more money
How the hell does anyone know if they are living paycheck-to-paycheck or barely paying their mortgage, credit card debt, etc.?
I know similar people that are financial wrecks- and live in million dollar homes with good jobs.
Anonymous
02/06/2015 19:05
Subject: Re:DC parents leave kids in car for wine tasting
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What is scary is that these are the sorts of parents you might be inclined to trust instinctively as being okay for a drop off playdate. After all, on paper they only have positive attributes:
professional jobs,
graduate school degrees,
high SES
nice home
nice appearance
married
middle aged
These are the sorts of people you'd think would be responsible and would take excellent care of their children. And it's unnerving to see that's not the case at all.
But why would you assume that? I'm not just snarking at you, really, look at your list, and look at this assumption, why are these things connected? Why does evidence of, say, good financial decisionmaking make one think people would be good decisionmakers about other topics?
Are you really that dense?
Graduate school degrees: takes time and attention to study and follow through
Nice home, nice appearance: show that they can have attention to details
Professional jobs: have positions that require to have initiative, able to handle responsibilities, able to think on one's own
Middle aged: have life experience, maturity
High SES: assuming that money was not inherited, they had to show diligence and commitment to a particular field to earn more and more money
Anonymous
02/06/2015 18:55
Subject: Re:DC parents leave kids in car for wine tasting
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What is scary is that these are the sorts of parents you might be inclined to trust instinctively as being okay for a drop off playdate. After all, on paper they only have positive attributes:
professional jobs,
graduate school degrees,
high SES
nice home
nice appearance
married
middle aged
These are the sorts of people you'd think would be responsible and would take excellent care of their children. And it's unnerving to see that's not the case at all.
But why would you assume that? I'm not just snarking at you, really, look at your list, and look at this assumption, why are these things connected? Why does evidence of, say, good financial decisionmaking make one think people would be good decisionmakers about other topics?
Oh, please. Don't even go there. You know we all make judgments about other people based on this kind of thing all the time. Are we sometimes wrong, as in this case? Of course. But overall, yes, I would be much more inclined to have my kids at a playdate with their children than, say, the child of a teenage unmarried mother who may or may not work at a low-end job and lives in a questionable area with who knows who else in the house.
Anonymous
02/06/2015 18:45
Subject: DC parents leave kids in car for wine tasting
So I apparently know this couple. One of my husbands friends. fWIW they always seemed very responsible. My mind is blown right now.
Anonymous
02/06/2015 16:54
Subject: Re:DC parents leave kids in car for wine tasting
I also love that they have a Volvo - the car everyone buys because it is so safe. Not so safe when you leave your two kids and iPhone on a DC street to steal!
Anonymous
02/06/2015 16:10
Subject: Re:DC parents leave kids in car for wine tasting
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Not ideal, but I think you are overreacting. Why is this so different from leaving a kid in a crib while you are in the first floor watching tv or taking a shower. The doors were locked.
Cars have been carjacked with children inside.
Cars get hit while parked.
My own baby dd used to have coughing fits and routinely choke while drinking from a sippy.
I could play this game all day long.
No one steals Volvo wagons. Way too uncool.
This should be enough. Oh, and it's illegal.
Anonymous
02/06/2015 16:08
Subject: DC parents leave kids in car for wine tasting
Was the wine tasting a very exclusive event for VIPs? Not that that justifies the parents' behavior.
Anonymous
02/06/2015 15:08
Subject: DC parents leave kids in car for wine tasting
The bottom line is that there was something they cared more about than the safety of their children, and that thing was keeping a reservation for a wine tasting at some fancy DC restaurant. You know, gotta have something to brag about the next day at the office.
Well, they got the office talking now!
Well, they got the office talking now!
Anonymous
02/06/2015 14:57
Subject: Re:DC parents leave kids in car for wine tasting
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What is scary is that these are the sorts of parents you might be inclined to trust instinctively as being okay for a drop off playdate. After all, on paper they only have positive attributes:
professional jobs,
graduate school degrees,
high SES
nice home
nice appearance
married
middle aged
These are the sorts of people you'd think would be responsible and would take excellent care of their children. And it's unnerving to see that's not the case at all.
But why would you assume that? I'm not just snarking at you, really, look at your list, and look at this assumption, why are these things connected? Why does evidence of, say, good financial decisionmaking make one think people would be good decisionmakers about other topics?
Anonymous
02/06/2015 14:43
Subject: Re:DC parents leave kids in car for wine tasting
Anonymous wrote:What is scary is that these are the sorts of parents you might be inclined to trust instinctively as being okay for a drop off playdate. After all, on paper they only have positive attributes:
professional jobs,
graduate school degrees,
high SES
nice home
nice appearance
married
middle aged
These are the sorts of people you'd think would be responsible and would take excellent care of their children. And it's unnerving to see that's not the case at all.
But why would you assume that? I'm not just snarking at you, really, look at your list, and look at this assumption, why are these things connected? Why does evidence of, say, good financial decisionmaking make one think people would be good decisionmakers about other topics?
Anonymous
02/06/2015 14:31
Subject: Re:DC parents leave kids in car for wine tasting
Anonymous wrote:Not ideal, but I think you are overreacting. Why is this so different from leaving a kid in a crib while you are in the first floor watching tv or taking a shower. The doors were locked.
First off, because it was fucking freezing. Do you keep your house a brisk 30 degrees?
Anonymous
02/06/2015 14:28
Subject: Re:DC parents leave kids in car for wine tasting
Anonymous wrote:What is scary is that these are the sorts of parents you might be inclined to trust instinctively as being okay for a drop off playdate. After all, on paper they only have positive attributes:
professional jobs,
graduate school degrees,
high SES
nice home
nice appearance
married
middle aged
These are the sorts of people you'd think would be responsible and would take excellent care of their children. And it's unnerving to see that's not the case at all.
I don't think this couple has to worry about drop off playdates in the future. Seriously, it's often the ones you least suspect and think you can trust that are the worst.
Anonymous
02/06/2015 14:27
Subject: Re:DC parents leave kids in car for wine tasting
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Not ideal, but I think you are overreacting. Why is this so different from leaving a kid in a crib while you are in the first floor watching tv or taking a shower. The doors were locked.
Cars have been carjacked with children inside.
Cars get hit while parked.
My own baby dd used to have coughing fits and routinely choke while drinking from a sippy.
I could play this game all day long.
houses have been invaded with kids inside too. If I'm in the shower for 20 minutes, I may not know that either. Car was locked. Again, its a bad idea but it is not 10 years in jail and lose your kids bad.
Whatever, Jennie. Make these points to your lawyer.
Anonymous
02/06/2015 14:26
Subject: Re:DC parents leave kids in car for wine tasting
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Not ideal, but I think you are overreacting. Why is this so different from leaving a kid in a crib while you are in the first floor watching tv or taking a shower. The doors were locked.
Cars have been carjacked with children inside.
Cars get hit while parked.
My own baby dd used to have coughing fits and routinely choke while drinking from a sippy.
I could play this game all day long.
No one steals Volvo wagons. Way too uncool.