Anonymous wrote:We need to train all our children what black families have long trained theirs: just submit. You'll have time later to lawyer up and protect yourself.

Except they don't. A large number of blacks have been executed during routine stops while doing absolutely no harm. Low IQ police don't understand that "you're being recorded" actually means that both parties are being recorded.

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Anonymous wrote:ANYONE can put on some jackets saying ICE and attempt to carjack people.
Stay out of the road if you don't want to be hit by a scared person trying to avoid being carjacked.

You are not allowed to block ICE vehicles or run away if ICE is detaining you. U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers are federal police with nationwide jurisdiction, not contractors or security.
If ICE tells you to stop or that you are under arrest for interfering, you must comply. Refusing to obey lawful orders can legally result in detention, arrest, and the use of reasonable force.
Federal law is clear: 8 U.S. Code § 1357 gives ICE arrest and detention authority
18 U.S. Code § 111 makes it a crime to resist, obstruct, or impede federal officers
18 U.S. Code § 3052 grants federal arrest authority
You may observe or record in public. You may not block vehicles, interfere, ignore commands, or flee. ICE are real police, and federal law applies in every state.

But do they have the jurisdiction to be enforcing driving regulations? That's not their mandate. Are they supposed to be giving out speeding tickets? They are supposed to do their job of enforcing immigration law. They haven't been trained like state police or city cops in how to deal with traffic laws and regulations.

And I don't get out of my car because someone in an unmarked car with guns jumps out. I'll drive to the nearest police station. I don't care if they do have FEDERAL AGENT stenciled on their jacket.

You are not allowed to block ICE vehicles

There’s a longer video that shows that multiple other ICE vehicles were able to get by her without attempting to detain her or shooting her in the face. She was not blocking ICE vehicles when the ICE agents jumped out of that truck.

He needs to rot in jail for murder.
Anyone who helped him needs to as well.

There was a doctor there for god's sake and ICE would not let him through.

WTH is wrong with you MAGA the video is 100% clear! ICE can not murder US Citizens or anyone for that matter deadly force is unacceptable period.

When elections come around you are ok with this coming to your city so Trump can stay king?

God dammed stupidest cult ever!

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Anonymous wrote:CNN just showed two videos of the incident. The second video clearly shows the victim hitting the ICE shooter with her SUV.

All of the videos have been posted on this thread. Are you talking about the one where she is going 2 miles per hour and the agent steps out of the way? Because that is that it showed.

No. She was going faster than the speed you stated and the video clearly shows that she hit the ICE agent with her SUV.

CNN shows two different videos of the incident. The second video shows the ICE agent being hit by the reckless driver trying to escape from law enforcement.

Video show not such thing. You are lying. Go back to Russia.

Yes it does. CNN played it twice on AC360 (Anderson Cooper). The second was in slow motion so that viewers could see clearly that the ICE shooter was hit by the SUV.

That video is posted upthread and that’s not what it shows. But regardless he shot after the vehicle was past him. One at the front side angle (through the windshield) and the other on the side.

There are at least two videos shown by CNN. The second video shows the ICE agent being hit when played in slow motion.

Nobody is buying this. He clearly was not hit and no real LEO would call this a clean shoot. He’s a murderer

The third cop is in front in the way of travel, he's the one that shot, not the one with his hands on the vehicle.

Even if he were brushed by the car, which I don’t think he was, but for the sake of argument what kind of idiot stands in front of a 3 ton SUV like that.

At any point in time she could have easily gotten confused and hit the gas instead of the brake, or thought her car was in reverse when it was in drive… that’s why officers aren’t supposed to stand infront of vehicles.

It’s looking more and more like an innocent women, who was trying to move off of a patch of ice, so was waving cars past her because she was on ice and the passing cars were on dry pavement with no traction issues… she didn’t want to skid or slide on the ice and ram into someone so she waited for a clear street, she was doing the right thing, they ambushed her and for that she’s dead.

These mad dogs, killed this woman.

No he was not "brushed with the car" The video is clear he is a murderer he shot her through the drivers window!

If you shoot someone through the front window, wouldnt that imply that they were in the path of the vehicle?

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Anonymous wrote:ANYONE can put on some jackets saying ICE and attempt to carjack people.
Stay out of the road if you don't want to be hit by a scared person trying to avoid being carjacked.

You are not allowed to block ICE vehicles or run away if ICE is detaining you. U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers are federal police with nationwide jurisdiction, not contractors or security.
If ICE tells you to stop or that you are under arrest for interfering, you must comply. Refusing to obey lawful orders can legally result in detention, arrest, and the use of reasonable force.
Federal law is clear: 8 U.S. Code § 1357 gives ICE arrest and detention authority
18 U.S. Code § 111 makes it a crime to resist, obstruct, or impede federal officers
18 U.S. Code § 3052 grants federal arrest authority
You may observe or record in public. You may not block vehicles, interfere, ignore commands, or flee. ICE are real police, and federal law applies in every state.

How does one know that it is ICE vs random carjackers??

This year,.criminals have even pretended to be ICE to rob others or attempt rape (I can pull a couple articles if you need receipts). She waves them to go by her so she can go, then suddenly they are in her face with a gun. I'd be confused and terrified too.

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Anonymous wrote:CNN just showed two videos of the incident. The second video clearly shows the victim hitting the ICE shooter with her SUV.

All of the videos have been posted on this thread. Are you talking about the one where she is going 2 miles per hour and the agent steps out of the way? Because that is that it showed.

No. She was going faster than the speed you stated and the video clearly shows that she hit the ICE agent with her SUV.

CNN shows two different videos of the incident. The second video shows the ICE agent being hit by the reckless driver trying to escape from law enforcement.

Video show not such thing. You are lying. Go back to Russia.

Yes it does. CNN played it twice on AC360 (Anderson Cooper). The second was in slow motion so that viewers could see clearly that the ICE shooter was hit by the SUV.

That video is posted upthread and that’s not what it shows. But regardless he shot after the vehicle was past him. One at the front side angle (through the windshield) and the other on the side.

There are at least two videos shown by CNN. The second video shows the ICE agent being hit when played in slow motion.

Nobody is buying this. He clearly was not hit and no real LEO would call this a clean shoot. He’s a murderer

The third cop is in front in the way of travel, he's the one that shot, not the one with his hands on the vehicle.

Even if he were brushed by the car, which I don’t think he was, but for the sake of argument what kind of idiot stands in front of a 3 ton SUV like that.

At any point in time she could have easily gotten confused and hit the gas instead of the brake, or thought her car was in reverse when it was in drive… that’s why officers aren’t supposed to stand infront of vehicles.

It’s looking more and more like an innocent women, who was trying to move off of a patch of ice, so was waving cars past her because she was on ice and the passing cars were on dry pavement with no traction issues… she didn’t want to skid or slide on the ice and ram into someone so she waited for a clear street, she was doing the right thing, they ambushed her and for that she’s dead.

These mad dogs, killed this woman.

No he was not "brushed with the car" The video is clear he is a murderer he shot her through the drivers window!

Anonymous wrote:The posters claiming that the ICE agent was not hit by the SUV are excessively emotional and the language used suggest that this poster or posters are unhinged.

It is fine to protest. It is illegal to assault a law enforcement officer with a 4.000 pound SUV.

I'm not claiming that he wasn't dinged by the SUV, I can see in the video that she hit him a little. If he hadn't been shooting at her he could have gotten completely out of the way.

Watch the video again. He deliberately walked in front of the SUV. She didn't deliberately try to hit him. She was trying to leave. She had no way to know for sure that he was actual law enforcement, and ICE aren't supposed to be traffic cops anyhow.

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Anonymous wrote:ANYONE can put on some jackets saying ICE and attempt to carjack people.
Stay out of the road if you don't want to be hit by a scared person trying to avoid being carjacked.

You are not allowed to block ICE vehicles or run away if ICE is detaining you. U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers are federal police with nationwide jurisdiction, not contractors or security.
If ICE tells you to stop or that you are under arrest for interfering, you must comply. Refusing to obey lawful orders can legally result in detention, arrest, and the use of reasonable force.
Federal law is clear: 8 U.S. Code § 1357 gives ICE arrest and detention authority
18 U.S. Code § 111 makes it a crime to resist, obstruct, or impede federal officers
18 U.S. Code § 3052 grants federal arrest authority
You may observe or record in public. You may not block vehicles, interfere, ignore commands, or flee. ICE are real police, and federal law applies in every state.

ICE are anonymous kidnappers until they IDENTIFY THEMSELVES by NAME and FACE and show official law enforcement credentials.

Anonymous wrote:ANYONE can put on some jackets saying ICE and attempt to carjack people.
Stay out of the road if you don't want to be hit by a scared person trying to avoid being carjacked.

You are not allowed to block ICE vehicles or run away if ICE is detaining you. U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers are federal police with nationwide jurisdiction, not contractors or security.
If ICE tells you to stop or that you are under arrest for interfering, you must comply. Refusing to obey lawful orders can legally result in detention, arrest, and the use of reasonable force.
Federal law is clear: 8 U.S. Code § 1357 gives ICE arrest and detention authority
18 U.S. Code § 111 makes it a crime to resist, obstruct, or impede federal officers
18 U.S. Code § 3052 grants federal arrest authority
You may observe or record in public. You may not block vehicles, interfere, ignore commands, or flee. ICE are real police, and federal law applies in every state.

We need to train all our children what black families have long trained theirs: just submit. You'll have time later to lawyer up and protect yourself.

At the start of the video, there was no one in front of the van.

The shooter was on the passenger side of the van. As the woman BACKED UP, and TURNED, he deliberately put himself in FRONT of the van.

Why do you deliberately move in FRONT of a van, if you fear that you will be run over?

Answer - you do not. You move in FRONT of a van that backed up because you want to STOP the van.

So stop saying he feared for his life. He put himself in front of the van. She didn't drive into him. He moved in front of a car that was driving away. And it wasn't barreling into him. She drove at a normal speed. He could easily step to the side, and he would not even have been dinged the tiniest bit, if he hadn't been trying to shoot her.

You don't step into the path of traffic and then shoot the driver and claim she was trying to kill you.

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Anonymous wrote:Yet another lawless action by Trump’s goons. The driver did nothing to the ice officer and he shot into her car as she was driving away. Cowards and criminals. And the criminal bosses, Noem and Trump, fully lying to protect murderers.

What is the death toll associated with trump’s orders and policies? Add this and the military strike

He has bloody hands.

Died in custody

Public shootings

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Anonymous wrote:Slow motion. That guy was in no danger and didn't get hit. He hopped out of the way of a car going 5 mph.

This video makes it obvious she drove right at him, and that he didn’t even take out his gun from his belt thing until she was barreling towards him.

Bullshit. Watch the wheels. She clearly steers AWAY from the officers, not INTO them. VERY clearly.

He was right in front of her car though. She didn’t have room to avoid him. Her car was surrounded by several ICE and she couldn’t drive away without hitting them.

Well since she was going slow, turning to get avoid him, and as and he is an ambulatory adult and an not effing tree stump apparently it was not the certain death (for him) situation you are contending, genius.

This wasn’t a murder - it was a public execution.

Trying to keep the REAL Americans in line by instilling fear: see what happens when you stand up to our Gestapo?