Anonymous
05/21/2025 12:21
Subject: Palestinians Starving - What Can We Do?
Anonymous wrote:Are these the Palestinians who were cheering on 9/11? If so, don’t care.
Yes, I'm sure the young girl shown with all of her bones sticking out from starvation was cheering on 9/11. you attitude is what got us here as a human species. We have not evolved nearly enough to even be able to stop killing fellow humans over land/religion/power/greed. We can't even evolve enough to understand that living together as humans ensures our own survival, too.
Anonymous
05/21/2025 11:57
Subject: Palestinians Starving - What Can We Do?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why are all the Arab countries so silent?
They sure don’t seem nearly as sympathetic to the flight of the Palestinians as your average campus protestor. Maybe they see the Palestinians as the aggressors and not the victims?
The starving Palestinian children? We are talking about getting humanitarian aid in. How bad do you have to be to not allow aid?
I used to support Israel but you have lost all my support. Anyone who is not sickened by what is happening is a monster.
I’m equally sickened by terrorist organizations and their apologists. Children are starving because of Hamas.
Hamas is evil. The children are children for God's sake. There is something very very wrong with you if you can't understand that allowing - no, not allowing causing - children to starve is an atrocity.
Israel is starving the children. On purpose.
So why does Israel get all the blame and Hamas gets none? Hamas is also starving the children on purpose. I’ll accept shared responsibility for this humanitarian crisis but the blood is not solely on Israel’s hands.
Nobody, nobody is claiming it’s all Israel. Hamas started a big conflict. Since then Israel has turned from the victim to the bully. They’re no longer trying to get rid of Hamas. They are trying to get rid of all Palestinians. If that means murdering every man, woman and child then that’s what they’ll do.
You're absolutely right. Hamas started this conflict in 1946 when they bombed the King David hotel in Jerusalem
You mean Israel? Careful what you write. So many Americans don’t know the history of the founding of Israel.
If I admit I am ignorant about the true founding of Israel, where can I go for some unbiased information?
This is not a bad intro book. Some reviews by Zionists say it is biased towards Palestinians, but it's going to be impossible to say something *doesn't* have a bias, if it doesn't favor your "side." fwiw, the book was recommended to me by progressive American Jews.
https://www.amazon.com/Shortest-History-Israel-Palestine-Intifadas/dp/1615199500/ref=sr_1_4?crid=P5A77ZZ31HVF&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.VibIk8XS-j4GwHw0GhJ9Nw9X3T_16bynghlfOtBCFtED2vQUaAAxgkzJ-Wbc87fOPF9Hb6bQIn83smD5Gg_XoDotUFj_s98o0JM7jEo_XZjRZT89sE9JYw_tO65x5_ci92vquXFdmkCAnXzSjJp3x_Rn9l_SnYr6hWRidcbY6dFFUjttG6ZpqK4SoumocUrob0Zbbo3DDH4vNcqrTsqmCkIRfozwysb_fimDqqD1rQBQNSXLJQqwtTPVWLMShQWdCvEC_EQbhvLMj3t8Kc3P6eUuQuysc_fTNRarkrrUAG4._kpq7ZpK1fVKb08VWae0ngRYJ9eGzzcAii-j-QHkYRA&dib_tag=se&keywords=history+of+israel+and+palestine&qid=1747842541&sprefix=history+of+israel+and+palestine%2Caps%2C89&sr=8-4
Anonymous
05/21/2025 11:46
Subject: Palestinians Starving - What Can We Do?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why are all the Arab countries so silent?
They sure don’t seem nearly as sympathetic to the flight of the Palestinians as your average campus protestor. Maybe they see the Palestinians as the aggressors and not the victims?
The starving Palestinian children? We are talking about getting humanitarian aid in. How bad do you have to be to not allow aid?
I used to support Israel but you have lost all my support. Anyone who is not sickened by what is happening is a monster.
I’m equally sickened by terrorist organizations and their apologists. Children are starving because of Hamas.
Hamas is evil. The children are children for God's sake. There is something very very wrong with you if you can't understand that allowing - no, not allowing causing - children to starve is an atrocity.
Israel is starving the children. On purpose.
So why does Israel get all the blame and Hamas gets none? Hamas is also starving the children on purpose. I’ll accept shared responsibility for this humanitarian crisis but the blood is not solely on Israel’s hands.
Nobody, nobody is claiming it’s all Israel. Hamas started a big conflict. Since then Israel has turned from the victim to the bully. They’re no longer trying to get rid of Hamas. They are trying to get rid of all Palestinians. If that means murdering every man, woman and child then that’s what they’ll do.
You're absolutely right. Hamas started this conflict in 1946 when they bombed the King David hotel in Jerusalem
You mean Israel? Careful what you write. So many Americans don’t know the history of the founding of Israel.
If I admit I am ignorant about the true founding of Israel, where can I go for some unbiased information?
Anonymous
05/21/2025 11:39
Subject: Palestinians Starving - What Can We Do?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don’t think you can get Congress to act. Worrying about starving people in Gaza will get you labeled anti-Semitic by this administration.
It's a no-win situation. If you say you want to feed the people go Gaza, you are antisemitic. If you're Jewish, you're automatically labeled a Zionist no matter what you do or say.
I think this is by design. There are bad actors from both sides that do NOT want peace and benefit from the suffering of the people of Gaza.
Anyone who labels wanting to feed the malnourished masses in Gaza as “anti-semitic” can F right F off, and honestly, why should we even tolerate that deranged viewpoint in society?
Unfortunatley it is "tolerated" because of religious indoctrination into a harmful, destructive believe system.
Anonymous
05/21/2025 07:56
Subject: Palestinians Starving - What Can We Do?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Former Israeli MK Moshe Feiglin and member Netanyahu's Likud party, states the following: "Every child, every baby in Gaza is an enemy. The enemy is not Hamas... We need to conquer Gaza and colonize it and not leave a single Gazan child there. There is no other victory."
https://x.com/QudsNen/status/1924823111230230814
This is sick. This is what zionism is.
How the hell does anyone stand by Israel?
I mean, I don’t agree with what is happening, but they aren’t wrong that Gazan children will grow up to hate Israelis and are effectively “the enemy.”
I mean, did Jewish survivors of the Holocaust grow up to love the Nazis?
Do vile things, and people will hate you. It's not incomprehensible nor nonsensical.
But that is also why the Israelis hate Hamas in the first place. It’s a viscous cycle. I can see why a Gazan child is a potential Hamas soldier to them. And I can understand why Gazans feel the same about Israeli children.
Your equivocation is gag inducing. Genocide is not the answer.
I already said I don’t agree with what’s happening. But a mutual hatred is hardly difficult to comprehend.
DP. The mutuality is difficult for me to understand. When you are displaced and brutalized, trying to fight back is understandable. It hasn't much helped the Palestinians, but I understand the reasoning. It's almost as if some Jews (Israelis and zionists) think Palestinians were responsible for the Holocaust - the hatred that many have for Palestinians is unwarranted and incomprehensible to me. Their hatred is overwhelmingly misplaced.
Do you think families that have lost loved ones to this conflict GAF if their side deserved it? No. They hate the other side regardless.
None of that is an excuse for what is happening now in Gaza. I am struggling to see how you can defend this is such back and white terms.
If the reverse occurred, and Israel invaded Gaza on 10/7, would you think starvation of thousands of Israeli citizens (specifically children) was justified 19 months later?
Anonymous
05/21/2025 04:51
Subject: Palestinians Starving - What Can We Do?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Former Israeli MK Moshe Feiglin and member Netanyahu's Likud party, states the following: "Every child, every baby in Gaza is an enemy. The enemy is not Hamas... We need to conquer Gaza and colonize it and not leave a single Gazan child there. There is no other victory."
https://x.com/QudsNen/status/1924823111230230814
This is sick. This is what zionism is.
How the hell does anyone stand by Israel?
I mean, I don’t agree with what is happening, but they aren’t wrong that Gazan children will grow up to hate Israelis and are effectively “the enemy.”
I mean, did Jewish survivors of the Holocaust grow up to love the Nazis?
Do vile things, and people will hate you. It's not incomprehensible nor nonsensical.
But that is also why the Israelis hate Hamas in the first place. It’s a viscous cycle. I can see why a Gazan child is a potential Hamas soldier to them. And I can understand why Gazans feel the same about Israeli children.
Your equivocation is gag inducing. Genocide is not the answer.
I already said I don’t agree with what’s happening. But a mutual hatred is hardly difficult to comprehend.
DP. The mutuality is difficult for me to understand. When you are displaced and brutalized, trying to fight back is understandable. It hasn't much helped the Palestinians, but I understand the reasoning. It's almost as if some Jews (Israelis and zionists) think Palestinians were responsible for the Holocaust - the hatred that many have for Palestinians is unwarranted and incomprehensible to me. Their hatred is overwhelmingly misplaced.
It would not be unreasonable for Israelis to have less than warm feelings toward the perpetrators of the October 7 massacre, namely, Hamas and its associates of that day.
How utterly privileged of Israelis to think this began on October 7th.
Anonymous
05/21/2025 02:20
Subject: Palestinians Starving - What Can We Do?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Former Israeli MK Moshe Feiglin and member Netanyahu's Likud party, states the following: "Every child, every baby in Gaza is an enemy. The enemy is not Hamas... We need to conquer Gaza and colonize it and not leave a single Gazan child there. There is no other victory."
https://x.com/QudsNen/status/1924823111230230814
This is sick. This is what zionism is.
How the hell does anyone stand by Israel?
I mean, I don’t agree with what is happening, but they aren’t wrong that Gazan children will grow up to hate Israelis and are effectively “the enemy.”
I mean, did Jewish survivors of the Holocaust grow up to love the Nazis?
Do vile things, and people will hate you. It's not incomprehensible nor nonsensical.
But that is also why the Israelis hate Hamas in the first place. It’s a viscous cycle. I can see why a Gazan child is a potential Hamas soldier to them. And I can understand why Gazans feel the same about Israeli children.
This reminds me of a statement made in the Nuremberg trials regarding killing children. It is similar to rhetoric amongst some Israelis to justify the death of children in Gaza:
Q: Will you explain to the tribunal what conceivable threat to the security of the Wehrmacht (Nazi forces) a child constituted in your judgment?
Q: Will you agree there that there was absolutely no rational basis for killing children except genocide and killing children?
A: "... to achieve a security but also a permanent security because for that reason the children were people who would grow up and surely being the children of parents who had been killed they would constitute a danger no smaller than that of the parents."
Anonymous
05/21/2025 01:57
Subject: Palestinians Starving - What Can We Do?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Former Israeli MK Moshe Feiglin and member Netanyahu's Likud party, states the following: "Every child, every baby in Gaza is an enemy. The enemy is not Hamas... We need to conquer Gaza and colonize it and not leave a single Gazan child there. There is no other victory."
https://x.com/QudsNen/status/1924823111230230814
This is sick. This is what zionism is.
How the hell does anyone stand by Israel?
I mean, I don’t agree with what is happening, but they aren’t wrong that Gazan children will grow up to hate Israelis and are effectively “the enemy.”
I mean, did Jewish survivors of the Holocaust grow up to love the Nazis?
Do vile things, and people will hate you. It's not incomprehensible nor nonsensical.
But that is also why the Israelis hate Hamas in the first place. It’s a viscous cycle. I can see why a Gazan child is a potential Hamas soldier to them. And I can understand why Gazans feel the same about Israeli children.
Your equivocation is gag inducing. Genocide is not the answer.
I already said I don’t agree with what’s happening. But a mutual hatred is hardly difficult to comprehend.
DP. The mutuality is difficult for me to understand. When you are displaced and brutalized, trying to fight back is understandable. It hasn't much helped the Palestinians, but I understand the reasoning. It's almost as if some Jews (Israelis and zionists) think Palestinians were responsible for the Holocaust - the hatred that many have for Palestinians is unwarranted and incomprehensible to me. Their hatred is overwhelmingly misplaced.
It would not be unreasonable for Israelis to have less than warm feelings toward the perpetrators of the October 7 massacre, namely, Hamas and its associates of that day.
Imagine how Palestinians would feel toward their Israeli occupiers then for all the massacres they've faced for the past century then.
Anonymous
05/21/2025 01:07
Subject: Palestinians Starving - What Can We Do?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If only there were a few Muslim countries in the Middle East that had a little spare money….
White liberals in America seem to care more about Gaza than their Middle Eastern neighbors.
White liberals care about slogans.
Anonymous
05/21/2025 01:05
Subject: Palestinians Starving - What Can We Do?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Former Israeli MK Moshe Feiglin and member Netanyahu's Likud party, states the following: "Every child, every baby in Gaza is an enemy. The enemy is not Hamas... We need to conquer Gaza and colonize it and not leave a single Gazan child there. There is no other victory."
https://x.com/QudsNen/status/1924823111230230814
This is sick. This is what zionism is.
How the hell does anyone stand by Israel?
I mean, I don’t agree with what is happening, but they aren’t wrong that Gazan children will grow up to hate Israelis and are effectively “the enemy.”
I mean, did Jewish survivors of the Holocaust grow up to love the Nazis?
Do vile things, and people will hate you. It's not incomprehensible nor nonsensical.
But that is also why the Israelis hate Hamas in the first place. It’s a viscous cycle. I can see why a Gazan child is a potential Hamas soldier to them. And I can understand why Gazans feel the same about Israeli children.
Your equivocation is gag inducing. Genocide is not the answer.
I already said I don’t agree with what’s happening. But a mutual hatred is hardly difficult to comprehend.
DP. The mutuality is difficult for me to understand. When you are displaced and brutalized, trying to fight back is understandable. It hasn't much helped the Palestinians, but I understand the reasoning. It's almost as if some Jews (Israelis and zionists) think Palestinians were responsible for the Holocaust - the hatred that many have for Palestinians is unwarranted and incomprehensible to me. Their hatred is overwhelmingly misplaced.
It would not be unreasonable for Israelis to have less than warm feelings toward the perpetrators of the October 7 massacre, namely, Hamas and its associates of that day.
Anonymous
05/21/2025 01:02
Subject: Palestinians Starving - What Can We Do?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Bernie states that fear of AIPAC is reason why his colleagues are afraid of speaking out on the starvation and atrocities in Gaza
“I happen to believe that what is going on in Gaza is horrific, that we are seeing children, right now as we speak, starving to death,”
US Senator Bernie Sanders on Thursday accused pro-Israel lobby groups, especially the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), of muzzling his Democratic colleagues’ criticisms of the war in Gaza by threatening to fund primary challenges against them.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/bernie-sanders-democrats-not-speaking-up-on-gaza-due-to-fear-of-pro-israel-lobby/
I do not understand how some people can be so evil (AIPAC and its associates). It's truly mind boggling. How are we even the same species?
This is how we roll now. If your party members don’t agree to fall in line. You threaten to primary them. Trump taught us that.
One of our local politicians, Chris Van Hollen, broke rank with the party and has been condemning the starvation in Gaza. AIPAC is running a massive ad blitz targeting the senator.
“AIPAC has been running ads against me in Maryland for about a month. And you know what I say? Too bad... You're not going to persuade me to stop voting in a way that supports human rights.”
During his interview with Mehdi Hasan on Zeteo, Senator Chris Van Hollen also said:
"There's a huge inconsistency when people say that they want to fight for human rights and somehow leave out Palestinians."
"My view, at the end of the day, is it's really not worth being a member of the House or the Senate if you can't look yourself at the mirror in the end of the day."
Van Hollen is a class act. I am so proud that he represents my district.
Pretty certain that as a senator he represents the entire state of Maryland.
Anonymous
05/21/2025 00:53
Subject: Palestinians Starving - What Can We Do?
Another CVH fan. Not sure what Maryland did right to deserve him. The rest of our politicians are so inauthentic.
Anonymous
05/20/2025 17:45
Subject: Palestinians Starving - What Can We Do?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Bernie states that fear of AIPAC is reason why his colleagues are afraid of speaking out on the starvation and atrocities in Gaza
“I happen to believe that what is going on in Gaza is horrific, that we are seeing children, right now as we speak, starving to death,”
US Senator Bernie Sanders on Thursday accused pro-Israel lobby groups, especially the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), of muzzling his Democratic colleagues’ criticisms of the war in Gaza by threatening to fund primary challenges against them.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/bernie-sanders-democrats-not-speaking-up-on-gaza-due-to-fear-of-pro-israel-lobby/
I do not understand how some people can be so evil (AIPAC and its associates). It's truly mind boggling. How are we even the same species?
This is how we roll now. If your party members don’t agree to fall in line. You threaten to primary them. Trump taught us that.
One of our local politicians, Chris Van Hollen, broke rank with the party and has been condemning the starvation in Gaza. AIPAC is running a massive ad blitz targeting the senator.
“AIPAC has been running ads against me in Maryland for about a month. And you know what I say? Too bad... You're not going to persuade me to stop voting in a way that supports human rights.”
During his interview with Mehdi Hasan on Zeteo, Senator Chris Van Hollen also said:
"There's a huge inconsistency when people say that they want to fight for human rights and somehow leave out Palestinians."
"My view, at the end of the day, is it's really not worth being a member of the House or the Senate if you can't look yourself at the mirror in the end of the day."
Van Hollen is a class act. I am so proud that he represents my district.
Anonymous
05/20/2025 17:41
Subject: Palestinians Starving - What Can We Do?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Former Israeli MK Moshe Feiglin and member Netanyahu's Likud party, states the following: "Every child, every baby in Gaza is an enemy. The enemy is not Hamas... We need to conquer Gaza and colonize it and not leave a single Gazan child there. There is no other victory."
https://x.com/QudsNen/status/1924823111230230814
This is sick. This is what zionism is.
How the hell does anyone stand by Israel?
I mean, I don’t agree with what is happening, but they aren’t wrong that Gazan children will grow up to hate Israelis and are effectively “the enemy.”
I mean, did Jewish survivors of the Holocaust grow up to love the Nazis?
Do vile things, and people will hate you. It's not incomprehensible nor nonsensical.
But that is also why the Israelis hate Hamas in the first place. It’s a viscous cycle. I can see why a Gazan child is a potential Hamas soldier to them. And I can understand why Gazans feel the same about Israeli children.
Your equivocation is gag inducing. Genocide is not the answer.
I already said I don’t agree with what’s happening. But a mutual hatred is hardly difficult to comprehend.
DP. The mutuality is difficult for me to understand. When you are displaced and brutalized, trying to fight back is understandable. It hasn't much helped the Palestinians, but I understand the reasoning. It's almost as if some Jews (Israelis and zionists) think Palestinians were responsible for the Holocaust - the hatred that many have for Palestinians is unwarranted and incomprehensible to me. Their hatred is overwhelmingly misplaced.
Do you think families that have lost loved ones to this conflict GAF if their side deserved it? No. They hate the other side regardless.
Anonymous
05/20/2025 17:31
Subject: Palestinians Starving - What Can We Do?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Bernie states that fear of AIPAC is reason why his colleagues are afraid of speaking out on the starvation and atrocities in Gaza
“I happen to believe that what is going on in Gaza is horrific, that we are seeing children, right now as we speak, starving to death,”
US Senator Bernie Sanders on Thursday accused pro-Israel lobby groups, especially the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), of muzzling his Democratic colleagues’ criticisms of the war in Gaza by threatening to fund primary challenges against them.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/bernie-sanders-democrats-not-speaking-up-on-gaza-due-to-fear-of-pro-israel-lobby/
I do not understand how some people can be so evil (AIPAC and its associates). It's truly mind boggling. How are we even the same species?
This is how we roll now. If your party members don’t agree to fall in line. You threaten to primary them. Trump taught us that.
One of our local politicians, Chris Van Hollen, broke rank with the party and has been condemning the starvation in Gaza. AIPAC is running a massive ad blitz targeting the senator.
“AIPAC has been running ads against me in Maryland for about a month. And you know what I say? Too bad... You're not going to persuade me to stop voting in a way that supports human rights.”
During his interview with Mehdi Hasan on Zeteo, Senator Chris Van Hollen also said:
"There's a huge inconsistency when people say that they want to fight for human rights and somehow leave out Palestinians."
"My view, at the end of the day, is it's really not worth being a member of the House or the Senate if you can't look yourself at the mirror in the end of the day."