Anonymous
09/19/2021 07:07
Subject: Re:Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Haven't fact checked this update: BL parents contacted NP police to tell them his last known location, and that they drove his Mustang home from said location.
Parents must have planned his escape. Told lawyer on Friday to inform NP police that son hadn't been seen since Tuesday. He left with backpack to hike at Myakkahatchee Creek. Allegedly, they went back today, found his car and drove it home??? This is some kind of crazy.
Thread has derailed. Since posting above, there's much to report. Video of van in Spread Creek area before BL allegedly drove back to FL. It was submitted to FBI and posted to YT. Area is closed off and search is underway. Reddit link at very end.
Spread Creek Dispersed camping ground August 27 6-6:30pm
Video was uploaded about 11:20pm PDT by YouTube channel Red White & Bethune
"YouTube description states: We were editing our Saturday video tonight and we were looking at footage from on August 27th, 2021 around 6:00pm to 6:30pm in Spread Creek Dispersed Camping. We had passed by a white van with Florida plates. We noticed it because we are originally from Florida and wanted to stop and say hi. When we passed the van, all the lights were off and it didn’t look like anyone was there. We ended up leaving because we couldn’t find a spot."
[YouTube Video of Van] (https://youtu.be/PBp3aNAGuFM)
Multiple people allegedly engaged with BL between 8/27-8/29.
"This gives credence to this guy's analysis who is familiar with the area." https://youtu.be/IkiC_2wc2qg
[/u]Couple picked up hitchhiker
"Couple picked up hitchhiker alleged to be BL. They noted he looked showered even though he said he'd been camping, apparently with no gear for the last couple days. He said there were showers nearby. He could've showered and thrown away evidence before walking back when they picked him up. They took another route south, he freaked out for some reason and got out near the dam."
Another woman notified FBI "She was trying to find a camping spot in the Spread Creek area, and swears she was driving behind Gabby’s van. Brian was driving and drove a bit erratically, and stopped on the side of the road."
Retired Louisiana LEO had a conversation with a man presumed to be BL at Bullwinkles bar.
[u]Hunters spotted van conspicuously parked in Spread Creek area.
"Alleged sighting at an Illinois gas station where he was mad yelling and throwing things away from inside the van."
No confirmed sightings in FL.
https://www.reddit.com/r/GabbyPetito/comments/pr2xs6/the_van_is_seen_in_this_youtube_video_on_august/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
I think the video with the van has merit but the other sightings I question. This article shows how easily some guy was mistaken for BL so Without some kind of video footage I think those sightings are all kind of iffy
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10005181/Man-looks-identical-boyfriend-missing-Gabby-Petito-photographed-onlooker.html
Anonymous
09/19/2021 06:47
Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s nearly a certainty that Brian had something to do with the murdered married couple and that was a reason she was upset. That area is insanely sparsely populated, just north of Moab is Green River, a town of less than a thousand people. Moab itself has less than six thousand. Green River is on Interstate 70, the nearest towns on Interstate 70 going west are Salina, Utah, less than 3,000 people, and Richfield, Utah, 8,000 people. It is over 100 miles from Green River to Salina. There are zero, zilch, zip services of any kind on that over 100 mile stretch from Salina to Green River on Interstate 70. It stays sparsely populated until Grand Junction, Colorado going east from Green River with only a few services along that part of the route, none from Green River until Thompson Springs, and none after that until Cisco.
The odds that these two parties did not meet, sharing the same at least partially nomadic lifestyle in such a sparsely populated area when there are timelines and photographs that do place them at the same locations at or near the same time, and that Brian Landrie isn’t the creep the couple were referring to and upset by and who murdered them, are infinitesimal.
The authorities came out with a definitive statement that the cases are not related
I am curious how they can state that when so much is still unknown
Anonymous
09/19/2021 06:09
Subject: Re:Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:Haven't fact checked this update: BL parents contacted NP police to tell them his last known location, and that they drove his Mustang home from said location.
Parents must have planned his escape. Told lawyer on Friday to inform NP police that son hadn't been seen since Tuesday. He left with backpack to hike at Myakkahatchee Creek. Allegedly, they went back today, found his car and drove it home??? This is some kind of crazy.
Thread has derailed. Since posting above, there's much to report. Video of van in Spread Creek area before BL allegedly drove back to FL. It was submitted to FBI and posted to YT. Area is closed off and search is underway. Reddit link at very end.
Spread Creek Dispersed camping ground August 27 6-6:30pm
Video was uploaded about 11:20pm PDT by YouTube channel Red White & Bethune
"YouTube description states: We were editing our Saturday video tonight and we were looking at footage from on August 27th, 2021 around 6:00pm to 6:30pm in Spread Creek Dispersed Camping. We had passed by a white van with Florida plates. We noticed it because we are originally from Florida and wanted to stop and say hi. When we passed the van, all the lights were off and it didn’t look like anyone was there. We ended up leaving because we couldn’t find a spot."
[YouTube Video of Van] (https://youtu.be/PBp3aNAGuFM)
Multiple people allegedly engaged with BL between 8/27-8/29.
"This gives credence to this guy's analysis who is familiar with the area." https://youtu.be/IkiC_2wc2qg
[/u]Couple picked up hitchhiker
"Couple picked up hitchhiker alleged to be BL. They noted he looked showered even though he said he'd been camping, apparently with no gear for the last couple days. He said there were showers nearby. He could've showered and thrown away evidence before walking back when they picked him up. They took another route south, he freaked out for some reason and got out near the dam."
Another woman notified FBI "She was trying to find a camping spot in the Spread Creek area, and swears she was driving behind Gabby’s van. Brian was driving and drove a bit erratically, and stopped on the side of the road."
Retired Louisiana LEO had a conversation with a man presumed to be BL at Bullwinkles bar.
[u]Hunters spotted van conspicuously parked in Spread Creek area.
"Alleged sighting at an Illinois gas station where he was mad yelling and throwing things away from inside the van."
No confirmed sightings in FL.
https://www.reddit.com/r/GabbyPetito/comments/pr2xs6/the_van_is_seen_in_this_youtube_video_on_august/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
Anonymous
09/19/2021 05:35
Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:He lied to the cops in the video as well. Said that he didn’t have a cell phone and then a few minutes later he casually pulled it out. It shows how good he is at lying.
Maybe he forgot he had it and they share a cellphone or maybe it's her cellphone like the van is hers but clearly she was not comfortable driving it.
Anonymous
09/19/2021 05:10
Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
He lied to the cops in the video as well. Said that he didn’t have a cell phone and then a few minutes later he casually pulled it out. It shows how good he is at lying.
Anonymous
09/19/2021 05:08
Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Gabby and Brian are not married. They do. Not own joint assets. It was her van and hers alone.
And she was not comfortable driving it.
Plus he did all the work to build it into a camper (and paid for the supplies).
People keep tossing in “her van / legally titled in her name” as if it means something.
It doesn’t.
Of course it means something if they broke up and he left her in some random national park to find her way back through ten states somehow alone. I highly doubt she said yeah sure, take the van that legally belongs to me and I’ll just like figure out how to get back another way somehow…
Anonymous
09/19/2021 01:13
Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:It’s nearly a certainty that Brian had something to do with the murdered married couple and that was a reason she was upset. That area is insanely sparsely populated, just north of Moab is Green River, a town of less than a thousand people. Moab itself has less than six thousand. Green River is on Interstate 70, the nearest towns on Interstate 70 going west are Salina, Utah, less than 3,000 people, and Richfield, Utah, 8,000 people. It is over 100 miles from Green River to Salina. There are zero, zilch, zip services of any kind on that over 100 mile stretch from Salina to Green River on Interstate 70. It stays sparsely populated until Grand Junction, Colorado going east from Green River with only a few services along that part of the route, none from Green River until Thompson Springs, and none after that until Cisco.
The odds that these two parties did not meet, sharing the same at least partially nomadic lifestyle in such a sparsely populated area when there are timelines and photographs that do place them at the same locations at or near the same time, and that Brian Landrie isn’t the creep the couple were referring to and upset by and who murdered them, are infinitesimal.
While Moab may be sparsely populated, Arches and Canyonlands NP had 1.2 million visitors each last year., which was down nearly half a million due to Covid. We can assume there were more this year. You are acting like these 4 were the only people in that area, when in fact there were many, many people passing through.
https://irma.nps.gov/STATS/SSRSReports/Park%20Specific%20Reports/Annual%20Park%20Recreation%20Visitation%20(1904%20-%20Last%20Calendar%20Year)?Park=ARCH
Anonymous
09/19/2021 01:13
Subject: Re:Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:He probably didn’t approve of them personally and had serious personality and anger issues to begin with, so it’s not a stretch he could kill both for any reason, including some deep seated prejudice and/or hatred. We know they both have mental issues to start with. Finding a gun or just having one-which would be the only smart way to undertake such a journey-isn’t at all hard. He wouldn’t hide the bodies if it were spontaneous and thought he might be discovered, not to mention it’s not a very easy thing to do. Mathematically, for them not to be involved, if all the other pieces fit, in such a desolate area, would be much, much more odd than if they were.
Moab is a weird place and one of extremes. You have flower power vegan crystal hugging hippies and extremist right wing end of the world alien loving preppers living in the same small community. I bet it was someone from Moab who didn't like they were a lesbian couple.
Anonymous
09/19/2021 01:08
Subject: Re:Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
He probably didn’t approve of them personally and had serious personality and anger issues to begin with, so it’s not a stretch he could kill both for any reason, including some deep seated prejudice and/or hatred. We know they both have mental issues to start with. Finding a gun or just having one-which would be the only smart way to undertake such a journey-isn’t at all hard. He wouldn’t hide the bodies if it were spontaneous and thought he might be discovered, not to mention it’s not a very easy thing to do. Mathematically, for them not to be involved, if all the other pieces fit, in such a desolate area, would be much, much more odd than if they were.
Anonymous
09/19/2021 00:59
Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Given the circumstances, the area being so sparsely populated, and the proven incompetence and repeated disinterest and even occasional corruption of authorities in countless instances of this general type, I wouldn’t believe any such definitive statement.
Anonymous
09/19/2021 00:56
Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:It’s nearly a certainty that Brian had something to do with the murdered married couple and that was a reason she was upset. That area is insanely sparsely populated, just north of Moab is Green River, a town of less than a thousand people. Moab itself has less than six thousand. Green River is on Interstate 70, the nearest towns on Interstate 70 going west are Salina, Utah, less than 3,000 people, and Richfield, Utah, 8,000 people. It is over 100 miles from Green River to Salina. There are zero, zilch, zip services of any kind on that over 100 mile stretch from Salina to Green River on Interstate 70. It stays sparsely populated until Grand Junction, Colorado going east from Green River with only a few services along that part of the route, none from Green River until Thompson Springs, and none after that until Cisco.
The odds that these two parties did not meet, sharing the same at least partially nomadic lifestyle in such a sparsely populated area when there are timelines and photographs that do place them at the same locations at or near the same time, and that Brian Landrie isn’t the creep the couple were referring to and upset by and who murdered them, are infinitesimal.
Personally I think at this juncture that's far reaching. Why did he get a gun from in the middle of nowhere? Why kill them, they didn't look like they had money and they were a lesbian couple so the probably wouldn't of flirted or tried to be romantic with him. Why let their bodies be found out in the open but not Petito's?
Anonymous
09/19/2021 00:55
Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:It’s nearly a certainty that Brian had something to do with the murdered married couple and that was a reason she was upset. That area is insanely sparsely populated, just north of Moab is Green River, a town of less than a thousand people. Moab itself has less than six thousand. Green River is on Interstate 70, the nearest towns on Interstate 70 going west are Salina, Utah, less than 3,000 people, and Richfield, Utah, 8,000 people. It is over 100 miles from Green River to Salina. There are zero, zilch, zip services of any kind on that over 100 mile stretch from Salina to Green River on Interstate 70. It stays sparsely populated until Grand Junction, Colorado going east from Green River with only a few services along that part of the route, none from Green River until Thompson Springs, and none after that until Cisco.
The odds that these two parties did not meet, sharing the same at least partially nomadic lifestyle in such a sparsely populated area when there are timelines and photographs that do place them at the same locations at or near the same time, and that Brian Landrie isn’t the creep the couple were referring to and upset by and who murdered them, are infinitesimal.
The authorities came out with a definitive statement that the cases are not related
Anonymous
09/19/2021 00:47
Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
It’s nearly a certainty that Brian had something to do with the murdered married couple and that was a reason she was upset. That area is insanely sparsely populated, just north of Moab is Green River, a town of less than a thousand people. Moab itself has less than six thousand. Green River is on Interstate 70, the nearest towns on Interstate 70 going west are Salina, Utah, less than 3,000 people, and Richfield, Utah, 8,000 people. It is over 100 miles from Green River to Salina. There are zero, zilch, zip services of any kind on that over 100 mile stretch from Salina to Green River on Interstate 70. It stays sparsely populated until Grand Junction, Colorado going east from Green River with only a few services along that part of the route, none from Green River until Thompson Springs, and none after that until Cisco.
The odds that these two parties did not meet, sharing the same at least partially nomadic lifestyle in such a sparsely populated area when there are timelines and photographs that do place them at the same locations at or near the same time, and that Brian Landrie isn’t the creep the couple were referring to and upset by and who murdered them, are infinitesimal.
The odds that these two parties did not meet, sharing the same at least partially nomadic lifestyle in such a sparsely populated area when there are timelines and photographs that do place them at the same locations at or near the same time, and that Brian Landrie isn’t the creep the couple were referring to and upset by and who murdered them, are infinitesimal.
Anonymous
09/19/2021 00:24
Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So, in the body cam footage she says she has anxiety and OCD. The officer, who is not a psychiatrist says she was "manic."
But everyone here is talking about him being mentally ill--what's his deal? How do they know if no one from his family is talking? Wondering what I missed...
In the police report the boyfriend is quoted as saying they both have OCD but hers is worse. If someone is genuinely manic you can usually tell it doesn’t take a PhD or MD to know it.
She might have been on drugs.
Anonymous
09/19/2021 00:09
Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:So, in the body cam footage she says she has anxiety and OCD. The officer, who is not a psychiatrist says she was "manic."
But everyone here is talking about him being mentally ill--what's his deal? How do they know if no one from his family is talking? Wondering what I missed...
In the police report the boyfriend is quoted as saying they both have OCD but hers is worse. If someone is genuinely manic you can usually tell it doesn’t take a PhD or MD to know it.