Anonymous
Post 07/08/2024 17:57     Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

Anonymous wrote:All of this continued death and suffering just so NATO and Zelensky can avoid a hit to their ego. We could have a peace agreement but not for this. An absolute travesty.


No, the death and suffering are because the russians invaded a soverign nation with its own borders and refuses to get out. What does that have to do with NATO or Zelensky's ego?

Maybe look to Putin's ego and why he feels it necessary to invade other countries?
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2024 17:54     Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

All of this continued death and suffering just so NATO and Zelensky can avoid a hit to their ego. We could have a peace agreement but not for this. An absolute travesty.
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2024 16:37     Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

Anonymous wrote:The Russia apologists need to stop making fools of themselves. The fact that it had a turbojet is a SIGNIFICANT factor. So much so that it's like whether an animal breathes with lungs or breathes in water with gills. That is the propulsion mechanism.

Antiair rockets like the Patriot need to be fast, and have a 160 km (max) range, which is why they use rocket engines.

Cruise missiles on the other hand need to travel long distances like 2000 km and don't fly as fast, which is why they, like airplanes, use jet engines.

The fact that it clearly has a turbojet firmly establishes that it was a cruise missile, and not an antiair missile.

Stop showing your ignorance.


A Russian missile destroyed a Children's hospital and people are arguing over WHAT KIND of missile it was? What is wrong with you?
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2024 16:27     Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

The missile that hit the hospital was also much too slow to be a PAC-3. A PAC-3 flies at Mach 5. A KH-101 is subsonic, Mach 0.6-0.78. You would not have gotten multiple clear frames of a PAC-3 but you would easily capture a KH-101 as happened in the video.
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2024 16:20     Subject: Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

The Russia apologists need to stop making fools of themselves. The fact that it had a turbojet is a SIGNIFICANT factor. So much so that it's like whether an animal breathes with lungs or breathes in water with gills. That is the propulsion mechanism.

Antiair rockets like the Patriot need to be fast, and have a 160 km (max) range, which is why they use rocket engines.

Cruise missiles on the other hand need to travel long distances like 2000 km and don't fly as fast, which is why they, like airplanes, use jet engines.

The fact that it clearly has a turbojet firmly establishes that it was a cruise missile, and not an antiair missile.

Stop showing your ignorance.
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2024 16:08     Subject: Re:Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Another image of a KH-101 being launched by a Tupolev



Matches the one in the video exactly, proportions, protruding turbojet intake near the rear (Patriot missiles do not have this), diameter, wing location - everything.

The missile that hit the hospital was a KH-101


Your image doesn't have those little triangle fins in the midsection from the video. It also has a long dark bar where the glide wings are, which the video missile also lacks. Its also a "fatter" missile. Lastly the X-101 tends to carry an 800 KG (roughly 2,000 pounds of freedom) warhead, which would have done far more damage to the hospital.


The Patriot missile does not have a turbojet engine requiring an intake. The missile in the video DOES. Also, the "dark area" is the shadow from short wings, which cruise missiles are far more dependent on than Patriots are. The PAC 3s have stabilizing fins all the way around, which would have been obvious - but which are not present in the Hospital video. Also the KH-101 by default does not have a 800kg warhead, they were designed to carry a much smaller payload and can only achieve 800kg by removing fuel tanks (thus also reducing their range). It was a KH-101. Also note that Bebo is trying to mislead by mixing pictures and details from two different things - one collateral damage to a residential area from an interception, whereas the KH-101 strike on the hospital was a different strike.


The hospital was not hit directly, and it was hit by a small missile which renders the very premise of a purposeful attack by an X-101 on the hospital invalid. What remains unclear is what exactly impacted and what was its target. There are other analysts out there showing that the missile is too short to be a cruise missile, and with too small a payload to be a cruise missile.

These were other impacts from the same day for instance:

Note the size of those fireballs. Someone should post pictures of the blast craters, but they might not want to go to jail for doing so.


The missile that struck the hospital clearly had a very visible turbofan intake. You could also hear the distinctive sound of a turbojet prior to impact in some of the videos. Patriots DO NOT HAVE turbojets. Cruise missiles have turbojets. The fact that your "analysts" do not know that or cannot be honest about it pretty much disqualifies them.
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2024 16:08     Subject: Re:Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Another image of a KH-101 being launched by a Tupolev



Matches the one in the video exactly, proportions, protruding turbojet intake near the rear (Patriot missiles do not have this), diameter, wing location - everything.

The missile that hit the hospital was a KH-101


Your image doesn't have those little triangle fins in the midsection from the video. It also has a long dark bar where the glide wings are, which the video missile also lacks. Its also a "fatter" missile. Lastly the X-101 tends to carry an 800 KG (roughly 2,000 pounds of freedom) warhead, which would have done far more damage to the hospital.


The Patriot missile does not have a turbojet engine requiring an intake. The missile in the video DOES. Also, the "dark area" is the shadow from short wings, which cruise missiles are far more dependent on than Patriots are. The PAC 3s have stabilizing fins all the way around, which would have been obvious - but which are not present in the Hospital video. Also the KH-101 by default does not have a 800kg warhead, they were designed to carry a much smaller payload and can only achieve 800kg by removing fuel tanks (thus also reducing their range). It was a KH-101. Also note that Bebo is trying to mislead by mixing pictures and details from two different things - one collateral damage to a residential area from an interception, whereas the KH-101 strike on the hospital was a different strike.


The hospital was not hit directly, and it was hit by a small missile which renders the very premise of a purposeful attack by an X-101 on the hospital invalid. What remains unclear is what exactly impacted and what was its target. There are other analysts out there showing that the missile is too short to be a cruise missile, and with too small a payload to be a cruise missile.

These were other impacts from the same day for instance:

Note the size of those fireballs. Someone should post pictures of the blast craters, but they might not want to go to jail for doing so.


Here you can clearly see what an X-101 looks like:
At roughly the :05 mark, you can see the wings and how "fat" they are. They also go boom more. Unlike the pencil thin missile with triangle wings from the near-hospital strike.


Anonymous
Post 07/08/2024 16:05     Subject: Re:Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Putin bombed 5 big cities in Ukraine last night, after seeing Biden during debates. He knows there will be zero response from US. This time, he bombed the largest oncological center for children in Kiev. Is anyone still delusional about Ukraine’s inevitable victory?


And by "zero response" you mean the exact opposite, in fact Ukraine will get billions more in gear and equipment and support for Ukraine.

MAnd? This will result in more Ukrainian soldiers and more Ukrainian children will die. Are you supporting this genocide against A krainians?


Ukrainians are only dying because of Putin's illegal and unwarranted invasion of Ukraine. Why are you supporting Putin?
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2024 15:55     Subject: Re:Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Another image of a KH-101 being launched by a Tupolev



Matches the one in the video exactly, proportions, protruding turbojet intake near the rear (Patriot missiles do not have this), diameter, wing location - everything.

The missile that hit the hospital was a KH-101


Your image doesn't have those little triangle fins in the midsection from the video. It also has a long dark bar where the glide wings are, which the video missile also lacks. Its also a "fatter" missile. Lastly the X-101 tends to carry an 800 KG (roughly 2,000 pounds of freedom) warhead, which would have done far more damage to the hospital.


The Patriot missile does not have a turbojet engine requiring an intake. The missile in the video DOES. Also, the "dark area" is the shadow from short wings, which cruise missiles are far more dependent on than Patriots are. The PAC 3s have stabilizing fins all the way around, which would have been obvious - but which are not present in the Hospital video. Also the KH-101 by default does not have a 800kg warhead, they were designed to carry a much smaller payload and can only achieve 800kg by removing fuel tanks (thus also reducing their range). It was a KH-101. Also note that Bebo is trying to mislead by mixing pictures and details from two different things - one collateral damage to a residential area from an interception, whereas the KH-101 strike on the hospital was a different strike.


The hospital was not hit directly, and it was hit by a small missile which renders the very premise of a purposeful attack by an X-101 on the hospital invalid. What remains unclear is what exactly impacted and what was its target. There are other analysts out there showing that the missile is too short to be a cruise missile, and with too small a payload to be a cruise missile.

These were other impacts from the same day for instance:

Note the size of those fireballs. Someone should post pictures of the blast craters, but they might not want to go to jail for doing so.


Here you can clearly see what an X-101 looks like:
At roughly the :05 mark, you can see the wings and how "fat" they are. They also go boom more. Unlike the pencil thin missile with triangle wings from the near-hospital strike.
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2024 15:10     Subject: Re:Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Putin bombed 5 big cities in Ukraine last night, after seeing Biden during debates. He knows there will be zero response from US. This time, he bombed the largest oncological center for children in Kiev. Is anyone still delusional about Ukraine’s inevitable victory?


And by "zero response" you mean the exact opposite, in fact Ukraine will get billions more in gear and equipment and support for Ukraine.

MAnd? This will result in more Ukrainian soldiers and more Ukrainian children will die. Are you supporting this genocide against A krainians?
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2024 14:37     Subject: Re:Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Putin bombed 5 big cities in Ukraine last night, after seeing Biden during debates. He knows there will be zero response from US. This time, he bombed the largest oncological center for children in Kiev. Is anyone still delusional about Ukraine’s inevitable victory?


And by "zero response" you mean the exact opposite, in fact Ukraine will get billions more in gear and equipment and support for Ukraine.


This is what Ermak, Putin’s buddy, is expecting from Biden. Keep funding Russian oligarchs.
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2024 14:30     Subject: Re:Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Another image of a KH-101 being launched by a Tupolev



Matches the one in the video exactly, proportions, protruding turbojet intake near the rear (Patriot missiles do not have this), diameter, wing location - everything.

The missile that hit the hospital was a KH-101


Your image doesn't have those little triangle fins in the midsection from the video. It also has a long dark bar where the glide wings are, which the video missile also lacks. Its also a "fatter" missile. Lastly the X-101 tends to carry an 800 KG (roughly 2,000 pounds of freedom) warhead, which would have done far more damage to the hospital.


The Patriot missile does not have a turbojet engine requiring an intake. The missile in the video DOES. Also, the "dark area" is the shadow from short wings, which cruise missiles are far more dependent on than Patriots are. The PAC 3s have stabilizing fins all the way around, which would have been obvious - but which are not present in the Hospital video. Also the KH-101 by default does not have a 800kg warhead, they were designed to carry a much smaller payload and can only achieve 800kg by removing fuel tanks (thus also reducing their range). It was a KH-101. Also note that Bebo is trying to mislead by mixing pictures and details from two different things - one collateral damage to a residential area from an interception, whereas the KH-101 strike on the hospital was a different strike.


The hospital was not hit directly, and it was hit by a small missile which renders the very premise of a purposeful attack by an X-101 on the hospital invalid. What remains unclear is what exactly impacted and what was its target. There are other analysts out there showing that the missile is too short to be a cruise missile, and with too small a payload to be a cruise missile.

These were other impacts from the same day for instance:

Note the size of those fireballs. Someone should post pictures of the blast craters, but they might not want to go to jail for doing so.
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2024 14:16     Subject: Re:Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

Anonymous wrote:Putin bombed 5 big cities in Ukraine last night, after seeing Biden during debates. He knows there will be zero response from US. This time, he bombed the largest oncological center for children in Kiev. Is anyone still delusional about Ukraine’s inevitable victory?


And by "zero response" you mean the exact opposite, in fact Ukraine will get billions more in gear and equipment and support for Ukraine.
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2024 14:14     Subject: Re:Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Another image of a KH-101 being launched by a Tupolev



Matches the one in the video exactly, proportions, protruding turbojet intake near the rear (Patriot missiles do not have this), diameter, wing location - everything.

The missile that hit the hospital was a KH-101


Your image doesn't have those little triangle fins in the midsection from the video. It also has a long dark bar where the glide wings are, which the video missile also lacks. Its also a "fatter" missile. Lastly the X-101 tends to carry an 800 KG (roughly 2,000 pounds of freedom) warhead, which would have done far more damage to the hospital.


The Patriot missile does not have a turbojet engine requiring an intake. The missile in the video DOES. Also, the "dark area" is the shadow from short wings, which cruise missiles are far more dependent on than Patriots are. The PAC 3s have stabilizing fins all the way around, which would have been obvious - but which are not present in the Hospital video. Also the KH-101 by default does not have a 800kg warhead, they were designed to carry a much smaller payload and can only achieve 800kg by removing fuel tanks (thus also reducing their range). It was a KH-101. Also note that Bebo is trying to mislead by mixing pictures and details from two different things - one collateral damage to a residential area from an interception, whereas the KH-101 strike on the hospital was a different strike.
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2024 14:04     Subject: Re:Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

Putin bombed 5 big cities in Ukraine last night, after seeing Biden during debates. He knows there will be zero response from US. This time, he bombed the largest oncological center for children in Kiev. Is anyone still delusional about Ukraine’s inevitable victory?